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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2018 9:24:54 GMT
I don't know what Prince Andrew's daughter has got to do with this, but I wish someone would just please tell me what a Gammon is? PS - Yes, I know what a nice piece of Gammon with a fried egg on top is before you ask ! An older white man who goes red faced with anger whenever he feels agrieved over a non issue. Or something like that. Ah, so it's the snowflakes fighting back eh? |
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Post by irene on Dec 5, 2018 10:59:53 GMT
The biggest laugh is Jaggas wanting a white Christian society whilst wanting to keep predominantly white Christian European immigrants out thereby resulting in more non white non Christian immigration fro Africa and Asia
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2018 11:02:03 GMT
The biggest laugh is Jaggas wanting a white Christian society whilst wanting to keep predominantly white Christian European immigrants out thereby resulting in more non white non Christian immigration fro Africa and Asia He,he, you're making things up now aren't you  |
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Post by irene on Dec 5, 2018 11:20:04 GMT
No the Government wants to make immigration fairer even you must have read that
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2018 11:58:29 GMT
The biggest laugh is Jaggas wanting a white Christian society whilst wanting to keep predominantly white Christian European immigrants out thereby resulting in more non white non Christian immigration fro Africa and Asia He,he, you're making things up now aren't you In theory all people's will be eligible to apply under the new, yet to be published, immigration laws. The reality people from the EU, especially the Poles for example, won't be bothered. Their own economies have grown in the last ten years (because of EU membership) and they have plenty of opportunities in their home countries. The same cannot be said of South Asia nor Africa and indeed Middle Eastern countries subject to despotic regimes. So Irene is right. The contradiction in the person he refers to position is exposed. Well it would be it's completely irrational. As is the argument for the so called "getting back control of our borders" point. To date, I have not heard one response from leavers on the fact that 248,000 entered the country in the last period. FROM OUTSIDE THE EU Well??? Anyone? |
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Post by baggins on Dec 5, 2018 12:01:54 GMT
He,he, you're making things up now aren't you In theory all people's will be eligible to apply under the new, yet to be published, immigration laws. The reality people from the EU, especially the Poles for example, won't be bothered. Their own economies have grown in the last ten years (because of EU membership) and they have plenty of opportunities in their home countries. The same cannot be said of South Asia nor Africa and indeed Middle Eastern countries subject to despotic regimes. So Irene is right. The contradiction in the person he refers to position is exposed. Well it would be it's completely irrational. As is the argument for the so called "getting back control of our borders" point. To date, I have not heard one response from leavers on the fact that 248,000 entered the country in the last period. FROM OUTSIDE THE EU Well??? Anyone? Shhh. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2018 12:07:19 GMT
He,he, you're making things up now aren't you In theory all people's will be eligible to apply under the new, yet to be published, immigration laws. The reality people from the EU, especially the Poles for example, won't be bothered. Their own economies have grown in the last ten years (because of EU membership) and they have plenty of opportunities in their home countries. The same cannot be said of South Asia nor Africa and indeed Middle Eastern countries subject to despotic regimes. So Irene is right. The contradiction in the person he refers to position is exposed. Well it would be it's completely irrational. As is the argument for the so called "getting back control of our borders" point. To date, I have not heard one response from leavers on the fact that 248,000 entered the country in the last period. FROM OUTSIDE THE EU Well??? Anyone? How many of that 248,000 were Asylum Seekers? How many were Migrants? How many were joining families already in the UK? How many were Illegal? How many came with jobs guaranteed? How many were entitled to come ie. from Commonwealth colonies etc. There are a lot of variables involved, and just throwing out a number doesn't do anything. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2018 12:43:02 GMT
In theory all people's will be eligible to apply under the new, yet to be published, immigration laws. The reality people from the EU, especially the Poles for example, won't be bothered. Their own economies have grown in the last ten years (because of EU membership) and they have plenty of opportunities in their home countries. The same cannot be said of South Asia nor Africa and indeed Middle Eastern countries subject to despotic regimes. So Irene is right. The contradiction in the person he refers to position is exposed. Well it would be it's completely irrational. As is the argument for the so called "getting back control of our borders" point. To date, I have not heard one response from leavers on the fact that 248,000 entered the country in the last period. FROM OUTSIDE THE EU Well??? Anyone? How many of that 248,000 were Asylum Seekers? How many were Migrants? How many were joining families already in the UK? How many were Illegal? How many came with jobs guaranteed? How many were entitled to come ie. from Commonwealth colonies etc. There are a lot of variables involved, and just throwing out a number doesn't do anything. Is any of that relevant to the base (and yes, I use that term in the most pejorative way I can) argument in the Leave campaign? Leaving the EU was supposed to bring back control of our borders, really meaning reduce immigration. 248000 says it won't and those that were arguing we had no control were talking out of their asses. |
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Post by baggins on Dec 5, 2018 12:51:20 GMT
In theory all people's will be eligible to apply under the new, yet to be published, immigration laws. The reality people from the EU, especially the Poles for example, won't be bothered. Their own economies have grown in the last ten years (because of EU membership) and they have plenty of opportunities in their home countries. The same cannot be said of South Asia nor Africa and indeed Middle Eastern countries subject to despotic regimes. So Irene is right. The contradiction in the person he refers to position is exposed. Well it would be it's completely irrational. As is the argument for the so called "getting back control of our borders" point. To date, I have not heard one response from leavers on the fact that 248,000 entered the country in the last period. FROM OUTSIDE THE EU Well??? Anyone? How many of that 248,000 were Asylum Seekers? How many were Migrants? How many were joining families already in the UK? How many were Illegal? How many came with jobs guaranteed? How many were entitled to come ie. from Commonwealth colonies etc. There are a lot of variables involved, and just throwing out a number doesn't do anything. You can't bring illegal immigrants into that because, well, they're illegal and we can't identify them to count them. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Dec 5, 2018 13:06:17 GMT
Enjoy reading. www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populationandmigration/internationalmigration/bulletins/migrationstatisticsquarterlyreport/august2018In the year ending June 2018, the UK issued 14,308 grants of asylum, alternative forms of protection and resettlement, down 12% compared with 16,215 in the previous year. The latest year’s figure comprised: 6,568 grants of asylum to main applicants and dependants (1,618 lower than the previous year, or down 20%) 2,038 grants of alternative forms of protection to main applicants and their dependants (870 higher than the previous year, or up 74%) 5,702 people provided with protection under various resettlement schemes (1,159 lower than the previous year, or down 17%) Additionally, 6,051 Family Reunion Visas were issued to partners and children of those granted asylum or humanitarian protection in the UK, an 11% increase since last year. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2018 13:08:56 GMT
How many of that 248,000 were Asylum Seekers? How many were Migrants? How many were joining families already in the UK? How many were Illegal? How many came with jobs guaranteed? How many were entitled to come ie. from Commonwealth colonies etc. There are a lot of variables involved, and just throwing out a number doesn't do anything. Is any of that relevant to the base (and yes, I use that term in the most pejorative way I can) argument in the Leave campaign? Leaving the EU was supposed to bring back control of our borders, really meaning reduce immigration. 248000 says it won't and those that were arguing we had no control were talking out of their asses. We haven't left yet, in case you didn't notice ! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2018 13:12:00 GMT
Enjoy reading. www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populationandmigration/internationalmigration/bulletins/migrationstatisticsquarterlyreport/august2018In the year ending June 2018, the UK issued 14,308 grants of asylum, alternative forms of protection and resettlement, down 12% compared with 16,215 in the previous year. The latest year’s figure comprised: 6,568 grants of asylum to main applicants and dependants (1,618 lower than the previous year, or down 20%) 2,038 grants of alternative forms of protection to main applicants and their dependants (870 higher than the previous year, or up 74%) 5,702 people provided with protection under various resettlement schemes (1,159 lower than the previous year, or down 17%) Additionally, 6,051 Family Reunion Visas were issued to partners and children of those granted asylum or humanitarian protection in the UK, an 11% increase since last year. Still doesn't give any figures for those arriving with a job guaranteed, nor people arriving from ex-colonies (commonwealth etc), nor people arriving to join families already in the UK. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2018 13:23:05 GMT
Is any of that relevant to the base (and yes, I use that term in the most pejorative way I can) argument in the Leave campaign? Leaving the EU was supposed to bring back control of our borders, really meaning reduce immigration. 248000 says it won't and those that were arguing we had no control were talking out of their asses. We haven't left yet, in case you didn't notice ! And when we leave, if we had already left, the 248000 would still be coming in. Control? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2018 13:30:37 GMT
We haven't left yet, in case you didn't notice ! And when we leave, if we had already left, the 248000 would still be coming in. Control? Apparently, there is a new Immigration System in the pipeline.....................at the end of the day, we are reliant on our fecking useless politicians and civil service to get things done though. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2018 13:37:08 GMT
And when we leave, if we had already left, the 248000 would still be coming in. Control? Apparently, there is a new Immigration System in the pipeline.....................at the end of the day, we are reliant on our fecking useless politicians and civil service to get things done though. True Pretty disgraceful I think that they won't publish the White Paper prior to next week's vote. Thus denying our MPs the right to vote with the implications obvious. But just to highlight the point, this was always under our control, nothing to do with the EU |
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Post by peterparker on Dec 5, 2018 13:40:11 GMT
Is any of that relevant to the base (and yes, I use that term in the most pejorative way I can) argument in the Leave campaign? Leaving the EU was supposed to bring back control of our borders, really meaning reduce immigration. 248000 says it won't and those that were arguing we had no control were talking out of their asses. We haven't left yet, in case you didn't notice ! but we had/have the ability to control non-EU immigration, just like we have controls that can be enacted on EU immigration |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2018 13:45:25 GMT
Apparently, there is a new Immigration System in the pipeline.....................at the end of the day, we are reliant on our fecking useless politicians and civil service to get things done though. True Pretty disgraceful I think that they won't publish the White Paper prior to next week's vote. Thus denying our MPs the right to vote with the implications obvious. But just to highlight the point, this was always under our control, nothing to do with the EU You only have to look at the Windrush debacle to understand that the government have the capacity to feck up even the simplest task. If there is one thing we have learnt from the whole Brexit issue, and the actions of our elected Parliament over the last few days is that, to borrow an American phrase, the swamp needs draining. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Dec 5, 2018 14:16:53 GMT
True Pretty disgraceful I think that they won't publish the White Paper prior to next week's vote. Thus denying our MPs the right to vote with the implications obvious. But just to highlight the point, this was always under our control, nothing to do with the EU You only have to look at the Windrush debacle to understand that the government have the capacity to feck up even the simplest task. If there is one thing we have learnt from the whole Brexit issue, and the actions of our elected Parliament over the last few days is that, to borrow an American phrase, the swamp needs draining. So still a Westminster problem then. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2018 14:24:19 GMT
You only have to look at the Windrush debacle to understand that the government have the capacity to feck up even the simplest task. If there is one thing we have learnt from the whole Brexit issue, and the actions of our elected Parliament over the last few days is that, to borrow an American phrase, the swamp needs draining. So still a Westminster problem then. Yep. Parliament is no longer representative of the British people. PS - The Belgium government is on the point of collapse over the UN Migration Pact ! |
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Post by jaggas on Dec 5, 2018 19:11:52 GMT
Australia want no part of it also.
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