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Post by gashead1981 on Apr 9, 2019 7:50:29 GMT
"but not where public demeaning of fellow human beings are involved purely because of their nationality, ethnicity, background, colour or religion" I bet Oldie is feeling a bit nervous now ! If I see anything remotely similar from Oldie or anyone else then they can get the old roadhouse treatment from here as well. For those who have watched family guy you'll know what that is! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2019 8:06:23 GMT
"but not where public demeaning of fellow human beings are involved purely because of their nationality, ethnicity, background, colour or religion" I bet Oldie is feeling a bit nervous now ! If I see anything remotely similar from Oldie or anyone else then they can get the old roadhouse treatment from here as well. For those who have watched family guy you'll know what that is! You wont. Debating and or ridiculing opinion is not comparable with making overt comments based upon race, creed or colour. |
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Post by baggins on Apr 9, 2019 11:11:25 GMT
"but not where public demeaning of fellow human beings are involved purely because of their nationality, ethnicity, background, colour or religion" I bet Oldie is feeling a bit nervous now ! If I see anything remotely similar from Oldie or anyone else then they can get the old roadhouse treatment from here as well. For those who have watched family guy you'll know what that is! Christ alive, Chuck Norris is a mod! |
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Post by inee on Apr 9, 2019 20:51:49 GMT
Somalia is a land in the midst of civil war and is no different to most other countries through the course of time, for a vast majority of reasons. When that happens nowadays and how quickly and in-depth news can be reported we always see the atrocities that go on and assume that all of the residents of those countries must be like that. Yes some citizens may be forced, though desperation of poverty to join the ranks of criminal activity or some chose to flee to asylum in another country. For those who choose asylum they are usually given living conditions which, in contrast by our western standards, are poor. The minority then want to continue persecution of these individuals by insinuating they are lazy, troublesome or because they are of a different religious faith with a different skin colour. Haven't these people suffered enough? Of course we will see a criminal element too from them. But lets not tar them all with the same brush, we do a great job of producing our own fair share of horrible breeds here who carry out the most violent and repugnant of crimes. That has nothing to do with race or ethnicity. Man has been inhumane to each other for centuries. People forget that it was only a few hundred years ago that Europeans were burning people alive and stoning them to death for wanting to read a copy of the bible in their native language. Who can forget the repugnant acts of the slave trade that our own fair city held heavy influence over. We laud Cabot as a great Bristolian, and he did some wonderfully kind things, but he was also a mercenary to what would be classed as crimes today. Have a read of this and tell me Somali people are as Jaggas states. www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-45224145so a bloke opens a dry cleaners and is killed ,you have to arrange security to travel round ,it tends to unfortunately align with what jaggas was getting at ,have you got any other examples. Oh and i'm not sure if you know cabot(not his name) was never a Bristolian |
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Post by inee on Apr 9, 2019 21:03:20 GMT
"but not where public demeaning of fellow human beings are involved purely because of their nationality, ethnicity, background, colour or religion" I bet Oldie is feeling a bit nervous now ! If I see anything remotely similar from Oldie or anyone else then they can get the old roadhouse treatment from here as well. For those who have watched family guy you'll know what that is! love it threats of violence from someone belonging to another cult of peace |
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Post by gashead1981 on Apr 9, 2019 22:41:06 GMT
Somalia is a land in the midst of civil war and is no different to most other countries through the course of time, for a vast majority of reasons. When that happens nowadays and how quickly and in-depth news can be reported we always see the atrocities that go on and assume that all of the residents of those countries must be like that. Yes some citizens may be forced, though desperation of poverty to join the ranks of criminal activity or some chose to flee to asylum in another country. For those who choose asylum they are usually given living conditions which, in contrast by our western standards, are poor. The minority then want to continue persecution of these individuals by insinuating they are lazy, troublesome or because they are of a different religious faith with a different skin colour. Haven't these people suffered enough? Of course we will see a criminal element too from them. But lets not tar them all with the same brush, we do a great job of producing our own fair share of horrible breeds here who carry out the most violent and repugnant of crimes. That has nothing to do with race or ethnicity. Man has been inhumane to each other for centuries. People forget that it was only a few hundred years ago that Europeans were burning people alive and stoning them to death for wanting to read a copy of the bible in their native language. Who can forget the repugnant acts of the slave trade that our own fair city held heavy influence over. We laud Cabot as a great Bristolian, and he did some wonderfully kind things, but he was also a mercenary to what would be classed as crimes today. Have a read of this and tell me Somali people are as Jaggas states. www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-45224145so a bloke opens a dry cleaners and is killed ,you have to arrange security to travel round ,it tends to unfortunately align with what jaggas was getting at ,have you got any other examples. Oh and i'm not sure if you know cabot(not his name) was never a Bristolian It was an example of the a Somali man that went against the stereo typical type that Jag laid down and you seem so keen to sympathise with. Unfortunately this man lost his life due to the civil conflict. I know Cabot was not a Bristolian. He was of Italian decent, I say a Bristolian as we have adopted him as one of our own. Tributes to him are all over the city. Doesn’t mean he wasn’t a tyrant though and his practices today would be illegal. |
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Post by gashead1981 on Apr 9, 2019 22:42:01 GMT
If I see anything remotely similar from Oldie or anyone else then they can get the old roadhouse treatment from here as well. For those who have watched family guy you'll know what that is! love it threats of violence from someone belonging to another cult of peace I see no threat of violence here...?? 🤔 |
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Post by inee on Apr 10, 2019 10:14:32 GMT
love it threats of violence from someone belonging to another cult of peace I see no threat of violence here...?? 🤔 roadhouse treatment as per family guy involves someone getting a kicking |
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Post by inee on Apr 10, 2019 10:53:37 GMT
so a bloke opens a dry cleaners and is killed ,you have to arrange security to travel round ,it tends to unfortunately align with what jaggas was getting at ,have you got any other examples. Oh and i'm not sure if you know cabot(not his name) was never a Bristolian It was an example of the a Somali man that went against the stereo typical type that Jag laid down and you seem so keen to sympathise with. Unfortunately this man lost his life due to the civil conflict. I know Cabot was not a . He was of Italian decent, I say a Bristolian as we have adopted him as one of our own. Tributes to him are all over the city. Doesn’t mean he wasn’t a tyrant though and his practices today would be illegal. Open your mind a tiny bit and reread what i posted i will us slightly different word in the hope you get it. A guy opens a dry cleaners and encourages others to follow his non violent example, said man then gets murdered. .So far you get that bit non violent man imo rather naive, he then gets murdered as do many others daily by low life scum (i'm sure even you agree his murderers are scum not shining examples of humanity), he was not killed by civil conflict ,he was killed by scum who made a conscious decision to murder him at that time on that day, in my opinion more likely murdered because he reused to pay protection or something like that. Somalia has been lawless for how long now is it 20 years or something like that even minor disagreements are sorted with violence, now tell me how people like that where there way of life has evolved like that(i mainly mean people of 30 or below ,not the older generations who have known peace of sorts) , can go to any country and suddenly change the way they have been bought up in an instant and immediately become peaceful and law abiding, life is not like people tell you in their little liberal dogooder pamphlets, the reality is they need to be educated into the ways of our lives and values but they are not. So no i don't sympathise with jaggas merely looking at it with my eyes open,as the link you posted tended on balance to agree with him. And please stop calling cabot a Bristolian,he never was and never will be you can't choose to be a Bristolian you are born one simple as, it winds me up when people change history for the simple reason of slagging Bristol off, you wouldn't call a sailor from London stationed in Scotland a Scot would you, you keep mentioning slavery and Bristols connection but never mention Hannah Moore, in another post on this or another thread you exaggerate the treatment of a minority cult in a vile period of history to garner sympathy, |
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Post by inee on Apr 10, 2019 10:55:19 GMT
If I see anything remotely similar from Oldie or anyone else then they can get the old roadhouse treatment from here as well. For those who have watched family guy you'll know what that is! You wont. Debating and or ridiculing opinion is not comparable with making overt comments based upon race, creed or colour. Ah you have never done that have you ??  |
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Post by inee on Apr 10, 2019 11:10:43 GMT
Hi everyone I cannot be bothered to read all the he said she said on this thread because I don’t have the time but also because some of the views on this thread are for me, quite upsetting. I just cannot stand racism, in any form, regardless of how it is intended. It’s repugnant and needs to be stamped out, some how. As mods we tend to let this board be a free for all, within reason, but there is a limit. Now there was a complaint made about jaggas view on the Somali communities. What emotion and context that was typed with is hard to tell, nevertheless, however it was meant, it was still crossed many lines, starting with decency and finished on the bigoted and racist scale. A few of the mods expressed their views on how awful it was, and I agree with them. Not the least is that this person seems to have a consistent far right wing view. That cannot be tolerated on here, so I have banned jaggas for the rest of the month. For those that will cry out, what about free speech, expression and opinion? Well, of course you are welcome to them, but not where public demeaning of fellow human beings are involved purely because of their nationality, ethnicity, background, colour or religion. If you hold so true to those views, how about a walk through Easton or St Paul’s on a Saturday night and announce your views to them through a loudspeaker, or, book yourself a platform in somewhere like the Lebeqs Tavern at the bottom of Stapleton Road and really state your hatred and opinion, you’ll have the perfect audience for your vitriolic hate filled opinion. Don’t fancy that? Because being a spineless keyboard warrior is safer I suppose. Pussies. For the record, if I have to read something similar again through the admin system, I’ll happliy issue bans. Peace out. G81. This was already asked of one member ,but again he is not mentioned ,in this post only one member is mentioned ,there was no need to name a member as being reported to the mods why not balance it by naming the person who hit the report post button or who complained ,you merely needed to ban jaggas and say he was banned for his comments simple really, however it seems like many mods you were on a power trip and just happened to say oh someone complained we really didn't need to know someone complained. Now before you jump on your high horse i would have posted the same reply to your even if someone was banned who was far left, again your encouraging someone to get into a violent confrontation, then calling them a pussy this is from someone who would never fight to defend his country, so please less of the calling out when you yourself would never use violence or bear arms. |
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Post by gashead1981 on Apr 10, 2019 12:16:30 GMT
Hi everyone I cannot be bothered to read all the he said she said on this thread because I don’t have the time but also because some of the views on this thread are for me, quite upsetting. I just cannot stand racism, in any form, regardless of how it is intended. It’s repugnant and needs to be stamped out, some how. As mods we tend to let this board be a free for all, within reason, but there is a limit. Now there was a complaint made about jaggas view on the Somali communities. What emotion and context that was typed with is hard to tell, nevertheless, however it was meant, it was still crossed many lines, starting with decency and finished on the bigoted and racist scale. A few of the mods expressed their views on how awful it was, and I agree with them. Not the least is that this person seems to have a consistent far right wing view. That cannot be tolerated on here, so I have banned jaggas for the rest of the month. For those that will cry out, what about free speech, expression and opinion? Well, of course you are welcome to them, but not where public demeaning of fellow human beings are involved purely because of their nationality, ethnicity, background, colour or religion. If you hold so true to those views, how about a walk through Easton or St Paul’s on a Saturday night and announce your views to them through a loudspeaker, or, book yourself a platform in somewhere like the Lebeqs Tavern at the bottom of Stapleton Road and really state your hatred and opinion, you’ll have the perfect audience for your vitriolic hate filled opinion. Don’t fancy that? Because being a spineless keyboard warrior is safer I suppose. Pussies. For the record, if I have to read something similar again through the admin system, I’ll happliy issue bans. Peace out. G81. This was already asked of one member ,but again he is not mentioned ,in this post only one member is mentioned ,there was no need to name a member as being reported to the mods why not balance it by naming the person who hit the report post button or who complained ,you merely needed to ban jaggas and say he was banned for his comments simple really, however it seems like many mods you were on a power trip and just happened to say oh someone complained we really didn't need to know someone complained. Now before you jump on your high horse i would have posted the same reply to your even if someone was banned who was far left, again your encouraging someone to get into a violent confrontation, then calling them a pussy this is from someone who would never fight to defend his country, so please less of the calling out when you yourself would never use violence or bear arms. To be honest, who reports the post for the mods attention is not relevant. It isn't relevant because it is the content of the post not the person who made it. In this instance however an example had to be made of what is and what is not tolerated with poster mentioned for reference to his comments should someone also want to see what that would be. It makes me laugh when posters think we are power trippy because we decide to censor someone for an indecent, or in this instance an inhumane approach. Trust me, I get no kicks from banning people here, I am a mod so I can help the owner of this forum keep it on the straight and narrow in full communication and agreement from other mods. All opinions are taken care and consideration of and mods are free to disagree with each other (aren't we Hugo!). That said, a mod can act independently if a clear breech of conduct has been seen. In this instance 3 or 4 mods had a discussion and collectively the consensus was to ban. I am neither encouraging violence or any form of physical confrontation. Not once does my post even suggest physical violence. The gist of it was, if you aren't prepared to say something to someones face and or be educated on common sense and evidence to change your perception basing an opinion of hatred based solely on race, ethnicity, colour or nationality, then, don't say anything at all, and yes those individuals are pussies and lowlifes. But if you do have the gall to say it, don't do it here where you can hide, say it to a proper audience to gauge response to which you want to address the vitriolic nature of your opinion. As an educational process if nothing else. If you don't have the common decency or gall to do it then what is typed here is low, snide, underhand, spineless and weak. As for taking a pacifist position on how to treat my fellow man, your quite correct, I would conscientiously object to picking up arms and pulling the trigger on a human being. I hold my own life and the life of others far greater than perhaps others who would do so. And we aren't talking about whether someone who choses to fight and defend in queens armed forces gives them the right to marginalise people either. However in this instance you are confusing meek with weak. Never do that. Many greater issues have been sorted with conversation and compromise than aggression and violence. What i do find starling on this thread is that there are other sympathisers to the racists and it soon flushes those out too. Its a sad state of affairs. |
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Post by inee on Apr 10, 2019 12:55:25 GMT
This was already asked of one member ,but again he is not mentioned ,in this post only one member is mentioned ,there was no need to name a member as being reported to the mods why not balance it by naming the person who hit the report post button or who complained ,you merely needed to ban jaggas and say he was banned for his comments simple really, however it seems like many mods you were on a power trip and just happened to say oh someone complained we really didn't need to know someone complained. Now before you jump on your high horse i would have posted the same reply to your even if someone was banned who was far left, again your encouraging someone to get into a violent confrontation, then calling them a pussy this is from someone who would never fight to defend his country, so please less of the calling out when you yourself would never use violence or bear arms.
It makes me laugh when posters think we are power trippy because we decide to censor someone for an indecent, or in this instance an inhumane approach. Trust me, I get no kicks from banning people here, I am a mod so I can help the owner of this forum keep it on the straight and narrow in full communication and agreement from other mods. All opinions are taken care and consideration of and mods are free to disagree with each other (aren't we Hugo!). That said, a mod can act independently if a clear breech of conduct has been seen. In this instance 3 or 4 mods had a discussion and collectively the consensus was to ban. I am neither encouraging violence or any form of physical confrontation. Not once does my post even suggest physical violence. The gist of it was, if you aren't prepared to say something to someones face and or be educated on common sense and evidence to change your perception basing an opinion of hatred based solely on race, ethnicity, colour or nationality, then, don't say anything at all, and yes those individuals are pussies and lowlifes. But if you do have the gall to say it, don't do it here where you can hide, say it to a proper audience to gauge response to which you want to address the vitriolic nature of your opinion. As an educational process if nothing else. If you don't have the common decency or gall to do it then what is typed here is low, snide, underhand, spineless and weak. As for taking a pacifist position on how to treat my fellow man, your quite correct, I would conscientiously object to picking up arms and pulling the trigger on a human being. I hold my own life and the life of others far greater than perhaps others who would do so. However in this instance you are confusing meek with weak. Never do that. Many greater issues have been sorted with conversation and compromise than aggression and violence. What i do find starling on this thread is that there are other sympathisers to the racists and it soon flushes those out too. Its a sad state of affairs. you misunderstand i haven't said the ban was unjustifiable i said there was no need to inform the world someone complained and name jaggas ,he should have been banned for the specified time ,my point is you say people not be snide and say what they mean and not hide behind the keyboard then encourage people to to do just that, fyi i have never hidden behind the keyboard i have said on several occasions how to identify me and where i sit pre game if anyone wants a chat(chat meaning talk without violence). As for violence did you not say you will kick someones arse in if you don't like what they say. Disliking a religion is not nor will ever be racist and it staggers me that today people still confuse the two, lets face it how many on here would complain if someone said hang the pope, not many that's for sure. As for the pacifist in people i'm sorry but if your family or friend were being attacked physically, then would you not do whatever it takes to protect then ie steaming and destroying the person committing the act if not then that is weak. Your last line racists where people are constantly called racist on here just because they disagree with others, please show me any racist posts in this thread as i cant find em(don't use jaggas as an example). |
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Post by baggins on Apr 10, 2019 13:12:14 GMT
To be honest, who reports the post for the mods attention is not relevant. It isn't relevant because it is the content of the post not the person who made it. In this instance however an example had to be made of what is and what is not tolerated with poster mentioned for reference to his comments should someone also want to see what that would be.
It makes me laugh when posters think we are power trippy because we decide to censor someone for an indecent, or in this instance an inhumane approach. Trust me, I get no kicks from banning people here, I am a mod so I can help the owner of this forum keep it on the straight and narrow in full communication and agreement from other mods. All opinions are taken care and consideration of and mods are free to disagree with each other (aren't we Hugo!). That said, a mod can act independently if a clear breech of conduct has been seen. In this instance 3 or 4 mods had a discussion and collectively the consensus was to ban. I am neither encouraging violence or any form of physical confrontation. Not once does my post even suggest physical violence. The gist of it was, if you aren't prepared to say something to someones face and or be educated on common sense and evidence to change your perception basing an opinion of hatred based solely on race, ethnicity, colour or nationality, then, don't say anything at all, and yes those individuals are pussies and lowlifes. But if you do have the gall to say it, don't do it here where you can hide, say it to a proper audience to gauge response to which you want to address the vitriolic nature of your opinion. As an educational process if nothing else. If you don't have the common decency or gall to do it then what is typed here is low, snide, underhand, spineless and weak. As for taking a pacifist position on how to treat my fellow man, your quite correct, I would conscientiously object to picking up arms and pulling the trigger on a human being. I hold my own life and the life of others far greater than perhaps others who would do so. However in this instance you are confusing meek with weak. Never do that. Many greater issues have been sorted with conversation and compromise than aggression and violence. What i do find starling on this thread is that there are other sympathisers to the racists and it soon flushes those out too. Its a sad state of affairs. you misunderstand i haven't said the ban was unjustifiable i said there was no need to inform the world someone complained and name jaggas ,he should have been banned for the specified time ,my point is you say people not be snide and say what they mean and not hide behind the keyboard then encourage people to to do just that, fyi i have never hidden behind the keyboard i have said on several occasions how to identify me and where i sit pre game if anyone wants a chat(chat meaning talk without violence). As for violence did you not say you will kick someones arse in if you don't like what they say. Disliking a religion is not nor will ever be racist and it staggers me that today people still confuse the two, lets face it how many on here would complain if someone said hang the pope, not many that's for sure. As for the pacifist in people i'm sorry but if your family or friend were being attacked physically, then would you not do whatever it takes to protect then ie steaming and destroying the person committing the act if not then that is weak. Your last line racists where people are constantly called racist on here just because they disagree with others, please show me any racist posts in this thread as i cant find em(don't use jaggas as an example). Lets not forget that this is a sub section of a Football Club Supporters forum. We're lucky to enjoy in the main, uncencorsed language and uncencorsed views, but when you push it too far, you need to be shown the door, for a few weeks, and maybe think there are other forums to express whatever views you may have. |
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Post by gashead1981 on Apr 10, 2019 14:09:26 GMT
To be honest, who reports the post for the mods attention is not relevant. It isn't relevant because it is the content of the post not the person who made it. In this instance however an example had to be made of what is and what is not tolerated with poster mentioned for reference to his comments should someone also want to see what that would be.
It makes me laugh when posters think we are power trippy because we decide to censor someone for an indecent, or in this instance an inhumane approach. Trust me, I get no kicks from banning people here, I am a mod so I can help the owner of this forum keep it on the straight and narrow in full communication and agreement from other mods. All opinions are taken care and consideration of and mods are free to disagree with each other (aren't we Hugo!). That said, a mod can act independently if a clear breech of conduct has been seen. In this instance 3 or 4 mods had a discussion and collectively the consensus was to ban. I am neither encouraging violence or any form of physical confrontation. Not once does my post even suggest physical violence. The gist of it was, if you aren't prepared to say something to someones face and or be educated on common sense and evidence to change your perception basing an opinion of hatred based solely on race, ethnicity, colour or nationality, then, don't say anything at all, and yes those individuals are pussies and lowlifes. But if you do have the gall to say it, don't do it here where you can hide, say it to a proper audience to gauge response to which you want to address the vitriolic nature of your opinion. As an educational process if nothing else. If you don't have the common decency or gall to do it then what is typed here is low, snide, underhand, spineless and weak. As for taking a pacifist position on how to treat my fellow man, your quite correct, I would conscientiously object to picking up arms and pulling the trigger on a human being. I hold my own life and the life of others far greater than perhaps others who would do so. However in this instance you are confusing meek with weak. Never do that. Many greater issues have been sorted with conversation and compromise than aggression and violence. What i do find starling on this thread is that there are other sympathisers to the racists and it soon flushes those out too. Its a sad state of affairs. you misunderstand i haven't said the ban was unjustifiable i said there was no need to inform the world someone complained and name jaggas ,he should have been banned for the specified time ,my point is you say people not be snide and say what they mean and not hide behind the keyboard then encourage people to to do just that, fyi i have never hidden behind the keyboard i have said on several occasions how to identify me and where i sit pre game if anyone wants a chat(chat meaning talk without violence). As for violence did you not say you will kick someones arse in if you don't like what they say. Disliking a religion is not nor will ever be racist and it staggers me that today people still confuse the two, lets face it how many on here would complain if someone said hang the pope, not many that's for sure.As for the pacifist in people i'm sorry but if your family or friend were being attacked physically, then would you not do whatever it takes to protect then ie steaming and destroying the person committing the act if not then that is weak. Your last line racists where people are constantly called racist on here just because they disagree with others, please show me any racist posts in this thread as i cant find em(don't use jaggas as an example). In most incidents we don't do that, we would give a general warning across the forum, but I don't think there is any harm in naming and shaming someone known for a particular view and holding them up as an example to others. My opinion won't change on that, and as I have had no complaints from fellow mods as to how I have handled it, I will assume for now there is nothing doing there either. Disliking a religion is not nor will ever be racist and it staggers me that today people still confuse the two, lets face it how many on here would complain if someone said hang the pope, not many that's for sure.Correct. But it is when there is a stereotypical view given which portrays every member in that religion to be the same in attempt to support your disliking of them, then that becomes marginalisation, because its misinformed opinion which only you or a minority may hold and marginalisation can stir up contempt based on emotive misinformation. Its like saying that because the catholic church has outed a few peadeophiles of which the offences were covered up, then all catholics from the pope to the partitioners must be paedophiles also or have inclinations that way. It would be ridiculous, dishonourable and narrow minded to tar every catholic with the disgusting behaviour of one man, especially then to promote hatred of people that way. As for the pacifist in people i'm sorry but if your family or friend were being attacked physically, then would you not do whatever it takes to protect then ie steaming and destroying the person committing the act if not then that is weak.
As i know you are levelling this at me because of my christian beliefs I will answer it this way. There is a big difference between defending yourself and carrying premeditated acts of violence. How you view that is down to your own personal train of thought based upon your own beliefs, however I like to think I hold a view that God does and I know that perhaps isn't for everyone, but as you are speaking about me personally I will answer it personally. What the bible condemns is a love of violence, uncontrolled anger which leads to violent acts and dishonest gain through violence. So would I knowingly or proactively for violence in the form of warfare? No. Would I carry out premeditated violent acts? No. Does that mean warfare is right? No. Do I have a temper? Yes, and I lose my cool sometimes like anyone else, but I don't take it out on people. Inanimate objects maybe! But the bible also says we have the right to defend ourselves using force if necessary and protecting our family of course. But that isnt premeditated violent acts is it and there is no fun in it either that you could get addicted to it. No one who has ever been fought of an attempted assault, mugging or rape has ever thought it was a barrel of laughs. Having served as a SPC I know that any form of personal threat is distressing on many levels. Your last line racists where people are constantly called racist on here just because they disagree with others, please show me any racist posts in this thread as i cant find em(don't use jaggas as an example).
I know that you are intelligent enough to know that isn't why I banned Jaggas or even that I would consider banning someone for a differing opinion. A direct racist slang word or insult doesnt have to be used. But a strong connotation is just as bad. I haven't read all of the thread and quite frankly I don't have the time, but what has been flagged has been dealt with and it wasn't for something as simple as having a mild difference of opinion or exchange of views. |
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Post by jaggas on Apr 30, 2019 19:21:41 GMT
Hi everyone I cannot be bothered to read all the he said she said on this thread because I don’t have the time but also because some of the views on this thread are for me, quite upsetting. I just cannot stand racism, in any form, regardless of how it is intended. It’s repugnant and needs to be stamped out, some how. As mods we tend to let this board be a free for all, within reason, but there is a limit. Now there was a complaint made about jaggas view on the Somali communities. What emotion and context that was typed with is hard to tell, nevertheless, however it was meant, it was still crossed many lines, starting with decency and finished on the bigoted and racist scale. A few of the mods expressed their views on how awful it was, and I agree with them. Not the least is that this person seems to have a consistent far right wing view. That cannot be tolerated on here, so I have banned jaggas for the rest of the month. For those that will cry out, what about free speech, expression and opinion? Well, of course you are welcome to them, but not where public demeaning of fellow human beings are involved purely because of their nationality, ethnicity, background, colour or religion. If you hold so true to those views, how about a walk through Easton or St Paul’s on a Saturday night and announce your views to them through a loudspeaker, or, book yourself a platform in somewhere like the Lebeqs Tavern at the bottom of Stapleton Road and really state your hatred and opinion, you’ll have the perfect audience for your vitriolic hate filled opinion. Don’t fancy that? Because being a spineless keyboard warrior is safer I suppose. Pussies. For the record, if I have to read something similar again through the admin system, I’ll happliy issue bans. Peace out. G81. This was already asked of one member ,but again he is not mentioned ,in this post only one member is mentioned ,there was no need to name a member as being reported to the mods why not balance it by naming the person who hit the report post button or who complained ,you merely needed to ban jaggas and say he was banned for his comments simple really, however it seems like many mods you were on a power trip and just happened to say oh someone complained we really didn't need to know someone complained. Now before you jump on your high horse i would have posted the same reply to your even if someone was banned who was far left, again your encouraging someone to get into a violent confrontation, then calling them a pussy this is from someone who would never fight to defend his country, so please less of the calling out when you yourself would never use violence or bear arms. Pointless debating with him inee, he is so far up himself he has no idea that the Somali and Caribbean communities are completely different in every way imaginable.....To suggest that Somali men drink in The Lebeq Tavern shows how little he knows about Somalis and the religion they follow and the rules that go with that religion. |
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Post by althepirate on Apr 30, 2019 20:52:16 GMT
Perhaps someone can tell me why it's ok to abuse someone of the same race?
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Post by jaggas on Apr 30, 2019 21:10:08 GMT
Perhaps someone can tell me why it's ok to abuse someone |
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Post by jaggas on Apr 30, 2019 21:24:26 GMT
Perhaps someone can tell me why it's ok to abuse someone No idea but it seems the mod has stereotyped the guys who drink in the Lebeq as violent black thugs who will rush to the defence of a community they hate because they also happen to be black.......The mod hasn't a clue but virtue signalling is popular amongst the left wing bigots. |
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