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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2019 9:59:45 GMT
Why divert from the question which Oldie asked? I highlighted one example from hundreds where someone’s life has been broken by Islam. There is no argument just a fact I’m afraid no matter how you want to water it down. Broken by Islam or a minority, sometimes cultural, interpretation of Islam? Plus, your experience, or regurgitated conflation? Obviously the minority isn’t it who is arguing otherwise? It’s black and white and how or why you try to deflect from this is strange to say the least. I haven’t stated that everyone who follows Islam is a terrorist but you will try your condescending best as usual. But I will spare a thought for that 14 year old boy who had to watch his father get stabbed repeatedly on a crowded train yesterday. In the name of Christianity wasn’t it? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2019 10:20:17 GMT
Why divert from the question which Oldie asked? I highlighted one example from hundreds where someone’s life has been broken by Islam. There is no argument just a fact I’m afraid no matter how you want to water it down. Not trying to divert anything, merely pointing out that Jaggas's blanket accusations do not reflect reality. Do you see a difference between Islam (or indeed any religion) in genetal and those who take an extreme view to justify certain actions? Are all followers of Islam terrorists who wish to do or condone bad things to non believers? The world is not black and white, there are many, many shades of grey. Of course I do? Why do you and Oldie continue to try and tar people with the racist and anti Islam brush? It’s the radicals/terrorists from all sides of the coin I have a problem with not any half decent person who just happens to have an association by religion or colour. I can only put it down to boredom and not enough fresh air, perhaps that’s why my mind is clear. The air up here is lovely, clear and fresh😀 |
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Post by stuart1974 on Jan 5, 2019 11:15:00 GMT
Not trying to divert anything, merely pointing out that Jaggas's blanket accusations do not reflect reality. Do you see a difference between Islam (or indeed any religion) in genetal and those who take an extreme view to justify certain actions? Are all followers of Islam terrorists who wish to do or condone bad things to non believers? The world is not black and white, there are many, many shades of grey. Of course I do? Why do you and Oldie continue to try and tar people with the racist and anti Islam brush? It’s the radicals/terrorists from all sides of the coin I have a problem with not any half decent person who just happens to have an association by religion or colour. I can only put it down to boredom and not enough fresh air, perhaps that’s why my mind is clear. The air up here is lovely, clear and fresh😀 The question was rhetorical and I am not trying to tar you at all. As for the boredom, if you only knew how much I would love the time to be bored. |
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Post by jaggas on Jan 5, 2019 15:39:00 GMT
Extreme Islam and so called moderate Islam are not separate they are one of the same as every aspect of the ideology is extreme.....The majority of Muslims maybe moderate but sadly it is the radicals that force the agenda.The moderates are irrelevant as history has shown us all over the world. Then surely the answer lies in working with moderates and rejecting extremists on both sides. You would think but sadly that isn't happening nor does it look like it will in the future...Islam is becoming more extreme.There are countries where Muslims are fighting each other over different interpretations of the ideology. |
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Post by jaggas on Jan 5, 2019 18:07:08 GMT
Oldie, Stuart,Hugo,Barbrady have any of you read the book The Strange Death Of Europe by Douglas Murray?.......I suggest you do.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2019 20:36:54 GMT
The responses from the usual suspects are indeed laughable.
Argue your point without vitriol and based upon factual reality.
And pigs might fly.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2019 20:37:32 GMT
Then surely the answer lies in working with moderates and rejecting extremists on both sides. You would think but sadly that isn't happening nor does it look like it will in the future...Islam is becoming more extreme.There are countries where Muslims are fighting each other over different interpretations of the ideology. 😂😂😂😂😂😊😊😊😂🤣 |
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Post by jaggas on Jan 5, 2019 21:43:18 GMT
Oldie have you read The Strange Death of Europe by Douglas Murray?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2019 23:54:14 GMT
Oldie have you read The Strange Death of Europe by Douglas Murray? Have you read Noddy does Dallas by Enid Blighton? |
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Post by baggins on Jan 6, 2019 13:22:51 GMT
Oldie have you read The Strange Death of Europe by Douglas Murray? Have you read Nobby does Dallas by Enid Blighton? That's better. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Jan 6, 2019 13:40:50 GMT
Have you read Nobby does Dallas by Enid Blighton? That's better. Have you read "Dallas does Nobby" by Enid Blighton? |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 6, 2019 18:20:30 GMT
Have you read "Dallas does Nobby" by Enid Blighton? Have you read "Nobby does Brighton" by Dullis End. |
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Post by jaggas on Jan 6, 2019 19:16:32 GMT
Katie doesn`t tell you that the Somalis also got free mobile phones and free travel permits that allowed them to use buses and trains anywhere in the country free of charge.They also got free driving lessons and money to buy cars...They have since cottoned on to the disabilty allowance that`s why you see garbed up Somali women who cannot drive to save their lives driving brand spanking new Nissan Qashqais with huge dents in.Of course you idiots will refuse to believe we are having the water taken out of us and are in favour of having the water taken out of us even more.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2019 9:05:07 GMT
Have you read "Dallas does Nobby" by Enid Blighton? Have you read "Nobby does Brighton" by Dullis End. Blimey. You all make out that I'm the male version of Skanky Sue from Chasers...............Baggin's holds that title ! |
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Post by gashead1981 on Jan 7, 2019 10:29:09 GMT
OMG.. oldie who goes out of his way to defend Islam compares Islamic terrorism,sharia courts, sharia patrols,FGM,raging homophobia,ritually slaughtered meat,sexism,racist underage rape attacks,racist grooming gangs, murder,misogyny and honour killings to events that happened in 1945 or have happened in Catholic communities by priests in a desperate pathetic attempt to excuse Muslims for being part of a vile backward demonic cult that results in misery and violence wherever the cult has reared its ugly head. You are a disgrace Oldie as is anyone else who uses Christianity to defend brutal barbarism within islam.... There are a couple of things to note here. From what I know of the original teachings of Islam, its a completely peaceful religion loosely based on Christian teachings then re-adapted through the prophet mohammed. The problem with Islam, like most religions are the rise of the fanatics which misinterpret or misrepresent a particular law, passage of scripture or principle, the jihad being the most known one which terrorists use to support their cause. Thing is, christian apologetics have very short memories regarding their own broad spectrum of their demonination. Christian base beliefs were once pure, but haven't been since around the 3rd century and even before that under Roman rule, it was a vile time to be alive where children were abused, sacrificed and sport amounted to ritual killings, mainly because religions joined with mythology and legend. Look at the Christian faith since the turn of pope Constantine. He jumped into bed with the pagans due to dwindling numbers where he adopted all the rituals and rites they had to false Gods to create Christmas, immortality of the soul, trinitarianism, easter to name a few. The bible was contained to latin meaning the regular worshipper could not read scriptures and they openly persecuted and killed anyone who attempted to read or translate it. Most of them were either stoned or burnt alive against torture posts. It wasn't until the 1800s, when printing presses on a large scale were invented that the church could no longer control the dark ages did this subside. Instead they turned to proporting things like purgatory, hellfire and open confession to fathers to control the masses instead. Basically psychological blackmail. Then it jumped into bed with Hitler in the 20th century (mainly for financial motives, after all the vatican bank is the richest in the world) and tried to religiously cleanse anyone who wasn't a catholic or a supporter of the Nazi party. Thousands of Jews, JW's, and objectors of other denominations were beaten, tortured and killed in concentration camps across Europe for refusing to compromise their faiths. If you have ever visited the location of one, and I have, its a very moving eerie experience. Then something similar was seen later in eastern block through the 90s, ethnic and religious cleansing after the fall of communism where graves are still being found to this day. Presently you have Trump saying that his Great military with God on his side is doing great things by killing other people in the holy war, if there is such a thing. So the christian faith is hardly squeaky clean. it too has been a barbaric and disgusting its just gone through a greater period of evolution than Islam and perhaps, in 2-300 years Islam will be in the same place as Christianity now, unless the human race doesnt make it that far. Truth is, religion is the source of most wars, but there are completely peaceful aspects to it, which if everyone applied, we would live in peace and harmony. Trouble is, mankind is unable to. (Jeremiah 10:23) |
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Post by baggins on Jan 7, 2019 11:54:01 GMT
Katie doesn`t tell you that the Somalis also got free mobile phones and free travel permits that allowed them to use buses and trains anywhere in the country free of charge.They also got free driving lessons and money to buy cars...They have since cottoned on to the disabilty allowance that`s why you see garbed up Somali women who cannot drive to save their lives driving brand spanking new Nissan Qashqais with huge dents in.Of course you idiots will refuse to believe we are having the water taken out of us and are in favour of having the water taken out of us even more. Where on earth do we start with this vile creature? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2019 11:54:38 GMT
OMG.. oldie who goes out of his way to defend Islam compares Islamic terrorism,sharia courts, sharia patrols,FGM,raging homophobia,ritually slaughtered meat,sexism,racist underage rape attacks,racist grooming gangs, murder,misogyny and honour killings to events that happened in 1945 or have happened in Catholic communities by priests in a desperate pathetic attempt to excuse Muslims for being part of a vile backward demonic cult that results in misery and violence wherever the cult has reared its ugly head. You are a disgrace Oldie as is anyone else who uses Christianity to defend brutal barbarism within islam.... There are a couple of things to note here. From what I know of the original teachings of Islam, its a completely peaceful religion loosely based on Christian teachings then re-adapted through the prophet mohammed. The problem with Islam, like most religions are the rise of the fanatics which misinterpret or misrepresent a particular law, passage of scripture or principle, the jihad being the most known one which terrorists use to support their cause. Thing is, christian apologetics have very short memories regarding their own broad spectrum of their demonination. Christian base beliefs were once pure, but haven't been since around the 3rd century and even before that under Roman rule, it was a vile time to be alive where children were abused, sacrificed and sport amounted to ritual killings, mainly because religions joined with mythology and legend. Look at the Christian faith since the turn of pope Constantine. He jumped into bed with the pagans due to dwindling numbers where he adopted all the rituals and rites they had to false Gods to create Christmas, immortality of the soul, trinitarianism, easter to name a few. The bible was contained to latin meaning the regular worshipper could not read scriptures and they openly persecuted and killed anyone who attempted to read or translate it. Most of them were either stoned or burnt alive against torture posts. It wasn't until the 1800s, when printing presses on a large scale were invented that the church could no longer control the dark ages did this subside. Instead they turned to proporting things like purgatory, hellfire and open confession to fathers to control the masses instead. Basically psychological blackmail. Then it jumped into bed with Hitler in the 20th century (mainly for financial motives, after all the vatican bank is the richest in the world) and tried to religiously cleanse anyone who wasn't a catholic or a supporter of the Nazi party. Thousands of Jews, JW's, and objectors of other denominations were beaten, tortured and killed in concentration camps across Europe for refusing to compromise their faiths. If you have ever visited the location of one, and I have, its a very moving eerie experience. Then something similar was seen later in eastern block through the 90s, ethnic and religious cleansing after the fall of communism where graves are still being found to this day. Presently you have Trump saying that his Great military with God on his side is doing great things by killing other people in the holy war, if there is such a thing. So the christian faith is hardly squeaky clean. it too has been a barbaric and disgusting its just gone through a greater period of evolution than , unless the human race doesnt make it that far. Truth is, religion is the source of most wars, but there are completely peaceful aspects to it, which if everyone applied, we would live in peace and harmony. Trouble is, mankind is unable to. (Jeremiah 10:23) Yep. Exactly. Apart from this bit. "Islam and perhaps, in 2-300 years Islam will be in the same place as Christianity now" I would rather hope not. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2019 11:55:55 GMT
Katie doesn`t tell you that the Somalis also got free mobile phones and free travel permits that allowed them to use buses and trains anywhere in the country free of charge.They also got free driving lessons and money to buy cars...They have since cottoned on to the disabilty allowance that`s why you see garbed up Somali women who cannot drive to save their lives driving brand spanking new Nissan Qashqais with huge dents in.Of course you idiots will refuse to believe we are having the water taken out of us and are in favour of having the water taken out of us even more. Where on earth do we start with this vile creature? Condemn him to the ridicule that his utterances so deserve. |
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Post by jaggas on Jan 31, 2019 12:14:39 GMT
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Post by stuart1974 on Jan 31, 2019 12:52:00 GMT
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