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Post by northridinggas on Dec 8, 2018 16:47:10 GMT
If I were DC I would go ~ he's had no support from the owners, the stadium and training ground are a pipe dream and he deserves better There will be pressure for him to go from Fans. Would any of us walk away from a long contract with a mortgage to pay. He is waiting to be asked to step aside. All we can do it wait I’m afraid. Quite right too, least he deserves is a proper pay-off. But if he goes the real problem, the board, doesn't change. |
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Dec 8, 2018 16:47:15 GMT
If I were DC I would go ~ he's had no support from the owners, the stadium and training ground are a pipe dream and he deserves better There will be pressure for him to go from Fans. Would any of us walk away from a long contract with a mortgage to pay. He is waiting to be asked to step aside. All we can do it wait I’m afraid. I hope he stays but I do feel sorry for him. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 8, 2018 16:50:00 GMT
With all due respect, £530k across 2.5 seasons is an absolute pittance in this league if you are serious about pushing the top 10 if you believe our leaders. especially when you have collected 1.7m in those years. Especiallt when you are giving away assets that net you the total of60 goals a season for peanuts and wasting money on offices in London. Where did I mention top 10? 500k on two strikers should give us enough to keep you out of the relegation zone surely? Show me where the teams 5 or 6 places above us have spent that sort of money on a strike partnership? If people are expecting a promotion push under these owners then they are quite frankly deluded but what has been spent could and should have been better spent than on being in the last 4 and tonked at home by Doncaster. How that can even be debated is beyond me. G1981 dreams about Ed Ware returning and investing million in the squad, convinently overlooking what happened last time he was a Director. It's totally baffling why DC didn't just keep Wednesday side, he's either lost the plot or trying to get sacked. |
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Post by gasman on Dec 8, 2018 16:53:14 GMT
Very disappointing today, we average one goal every 20 shots, looks like its not happening today
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Post by Cosmic Pasty on Dec 8, 2018 16:56:22 GMT
Utterly depressing alLround, assuming DC goes whoever comes in will have the same players to work with as there will be no money so no change to the results. Keeping DC and prepping for L2 feels like a realistic plan. How has it come to this? Agreed, but keeping DC is looking less and less likely.
Bristol Rovers have been promoted only a handful of times in the club's entire history, with DC being responsible for two of those, back-to-back. Perhaps if we'd stayed in League 2 for another season before being promoted to League 1 people would expect less and we might even be in a more secure position now if we'd achieved it a little more slowly. Maybe DC has elevated us too fast and now finds himself a victim of his own success in a position we're not yet equipped to maintain. I don't think many who supported us through the Conference would have complained at the idea of leaving it at the first time of asking and spending some time in League 2. Did we just hit League 1 too quickly? Thinking aloud, no... but we got shot of most of what got us there and so had little chance of maintaining our position on the strength of our replacements  |
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Post by dragonfly on Dec 8, 2018 16:57:22 GMT
I cannot see the owners giving DC any more funds given his recent signings as they surely have lost trust in him. My guess is Cottrell may be on his way.
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Post by z1zou on Dec 8, 2018 16:57:25 GMT
I'm not sure I can cope with following this sh*t show anymore.
Its not just DC, everything needs to change. The club has stagnated yet again when others would have bumped up the investment and pushed forward with the momentum.
Pre season promise of a top ten/play off push... This lot would struggle to make the top 7 of the national league
Its gutting
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Post by rememberhalifax on Dec 8, 2018 16:57:32 GMT
reasons to be positive 1)no worse off than before start of day(except goal diff!)2)we always do great after Christmas!3)Arry will prob win the jungle thing and join us as director of football!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2018 17:02:01 GMT
I genuinely wouldn’t be surprised if the owners told DC in their meeting that he wouldn’t be getting money in the window and he put on this performance to prove a point. “Give me money or sack me!”
If he doesn’t get the funds I think he’ll walk.
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Post by straighouttabristol on Dec 8, 2018 17:02:10 GMT
I cannot see the owners giving DC any more funds given his recent signings as they surely have lost trust in him. My guess is Cottrell may be on his way. Who even knows if he’s responsible for the signings? They don’t look like his usual type of signings to me and cottrell would be my last choice can’t stand him and he’s overrated |
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Post by Rod1883 on Dec 8, 2018 17:02:20 GMT
reasons to be positive 1)no worse off than before start of day(except goal diff!)2)we always do great after Christmas!3)Arry will prob win the jungle thing and join us as director of football! Not sure how you can say we're no worse off than at the start of the day - the teams below us have all closed the gap, granted we're still only four points from safety, but all bar one club just above us have picked up points and moved away from us |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2018 17:03:37 GMT
Keeping DC and prepping for L2 feels like a realistic plan. How has it come to this? Agreed, but keeping DC is looking less and less likely.
Bristol Rovers have been promoted only a handful of times in the club's entire history, with DC being responsible for two of those, back-to-back. Perhaps if we'd stayed in League 2 for another season before being promoted to League 1 people would expect less and we might even be in a more secure position now if we'd achieved it a little more slowly. Maybe DC has elevated us too fast and now finds himself a victim of his own success in a position we're not yet equipped to maintain. I don't think many who supported us through the Conference would have complained at the idea of leaving it at the first time of asking and spending some time in League 2. Did we just hit League 1 too quickly? Thinking aloud, no... but we got shot of most of what got us there and so had little chance of maintaining our position on the strength of our replacements Summed up pretty well although I would add that he over achieved with what was a very average squad. I don’t think he ever had the credit he deserved but is getting more sh**e than he deserves. His team selections are baffling and he hasn’t helped himself in that regard but football fans are a very fickle lot. Hopefully he can come to an agreement with Wael, if he can track him down, and free himself of this hell. Although he has helped to create it! |
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Post by gashead1981 on Dec 8, 2018 17:08:48 GMT
With all due respect, £530k across 2.5 seasons is an absolute pittance in this league if you are serious about pushing the top 10 if you believe our leaders. especially when you have collected 1.7m in those years. Especiallt when you are giving away assets that net you the total of60 goals a season for peanuts and wasting money on offices in London. Where did I mention top 10? 500k on two strikers should give us enough to keep you out of the relegation zone surely? Show me where the teams 5 or 6 places above us have spent that sort of money on a strike partnership? If people are expecting a promotion push under these owners then they are quite frankly deluded but what has been spent could and should have been better spent than on being in the last 4 and tonked at home by Doncaster. How that can even be debated is beyond me. In what context are you saying that though? Across 1 season? No one apart from the big 4 have spent that money in 1 season. Across 2.5 seasons there are probably 15 teams that have spent £500k on player transfers. In 2016/17 we bought Nichols for £330k after selling Taylor for £300k. And buy Sercombe for £100k. In 2017/18 we sell Bodin for £500k we buy Mensah for £100k, who was knocking them in for Aldershot. In 2018 we sell Ellis for £750k and buy Payne for £100k. So that works out at an average of about £175k per year on transfers. That is not acceptable for a L1 club who want top 10 football. You build and invest season on season around the players you make up the spine. If you lose big we should spend relatively big to replace. We haven’t. Simple. We have sold all our quality and expected DC to find similar gems for a tenth of their value. Occasionally you will hit a jackpot but mostly you will bust. |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Dec 8, 2018 17:10:38 GMT
Devastated. Feel so emotional after that. Almost more devastated for DC as much as anything. He looked a beaten man at the end. I really don't want us to get rid of him and he has become almost the heartbeat of our club. The negative vibe around the club is not good though and that has filtered from the owners down to the manager.
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Post by gashead1981 on Dec 8, 2018 17:10:43 GMT
Where did I mention top 10? 500k on two strikers should give us enough to keep you out of the relegation zone surely? Show me where the teams 5 or 6 places above us have spent that sort of money on a strike partnership? If people are expecting a promotion push under these owners then they are quite frankly deluded but what has been spent could and should have been better spent than on being in the last 4 and tonked at home by Doncaster. How that can even be debated is beyond me. G1981 dreams about Ed Ware returning and investing million in the squad, convinently overlooking what happened last time he was a Director. It's totally baffling why DC didn't just keep Wednesday side, he's either lost the plot or trying to get sacked. Look at the facts topper. I work on evidence. So are you telling me the current mob are making a decent fist of it then? You are the deluded one if so. I dream of a bunch of aliens coming down and running the show better than these feckless idiots. |
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Post by kruger on Dec 8, 2018 17:11:05 GMT
Taylor, Bodin and Harrison, our owners sold them (ok I know they wanted to go) our owners gave DC hardly anything from them three players, name any manager that could have done any better than DC? Wael please sell up and go back to Jordan, I can think of some very strong words towards you and your family right now but I won't,ill keep them to myself.i don't want you and your family at the club I love.
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Dec 8, 2018 17:11:51 GMT
We haven't played badly at all, if this game had been played with us comfortably in mid table we wouldn't have some of the over the top nonsense written on here. Unfortunately our problems are well documented some decent football with no end product Donny have been no better than us they just have a cutting edge that we don't. I have a lot of respect for you mate, but we are useless up front and our defending for their 2 goals was utterly unforgivable. I guess you have a better view from that end mate but genuinely thought we didn't play badly in first half. We got ourselves into plenty of good positions but our final ball / end product isn't good enough. |
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Post by smudge1 on Dec 8, 2018 17:13:54 GMT
Just look at how many games we have won in the last 38! That's evidence ensue i am afraid!
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Post by kampucheagas on Dec 8, 2018 17:25:36 GMT
Another weekend ruined!
I said a few weeks ago DC needed to get some under performers away from the first team and give some of the development players a go.... it must be demoralising for some of them having to watch Nichols and Payne get the shirt
I think we could handle defeats if we saw some passion and youth given a go, at the moment it’s so painful watching this current crop obviously not playing for the manager, and the manager not responding. I’ve backed DC all the way and feel he can still reverse this position, but In my opinion he will need to make some big calls
Better to go down with some promise of youth than with this current lot.... DC be brave and stick some new bloody faces in there!
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Post by dinsdale on Dec 8, 2018 17:28:18 GMT
Another weekend ruined! I said a few weeks ago DC needed to get some under performers away from the first team and give some of the development players a go.... it must be demoralising for some of them having to watch Nichols and Payne get the shirt I think we could handle defeats if we saw some passion and youth given a go, at the moment it’s so painful watching this current crop obviously not playing for the manager, and the manager not responding. I’ve backed DC all the way and feel he can still reverse this position, but In my opinion he will need to make some big calls Better to go down with some promise of youth than with this current lot.... DC be brave and stick some new bloody faces in there! He wont and he hasnt, hes too bloody stubborn |
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