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Post by althepirate on Dec 12, 2018 14:40:02 GMT
Thank you for posting this. It never ceases to surprise me how my many of my generation cannot recognise the ignorance and stupidity of their own attitudes and words. It makes me depressed to read it. Some of us remember the late 60s and 70s where it was ok to out signs of "no blacks" on rental property ads. Naming the race of a family next door, however badly behaved, is the same attitude. Bad behaviour is bad behaviour, race and ethnicity has naff all to do with it. Plenty of those signs still in evidence except they say Muslims only....There is discrimination against whites in job ads as well where only people from ethnic backgrounds are invited to apply. I have a client who has problems and my task is to get him more integrated into society. This week we looked at social groups he could join. There were many entitled eg BAME group which as he is white we didn't think he was included in those letters. I know the do gooders and ideologists on here believe in promoting seperation, but it doesn't work and it will get worse in the future. One Love the only answer IMHO.
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Post by althepirate on Dec 12, 2018 14:45:00 GMT
That's very arrogant and you don't realise it Nothing arrogant in expressing an opinion. Not liking my opinion does not make me arrogant. Telling someone they don't realise it is, as it is trying to suppress the power of their response, their disagreement with the insult you have just given them.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2018 15:18:35 GMT
Nothing arrogant in expressing an opinion. Not liking my opinion does not make me arrogant. Telling someone they don't realise it is, as it is trying to suppress the power of their response, their disagreement with the insult you have just given them. I didn't tell anyone anything. I expressed a belief. That doesn't make me right, as in an opinion. You are extrapolating my comment into something which what? Tries to justify the unjustifiable? In my opinion, which of course could be wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2018 15:31:15 GMT
Telling someone they don't realise it is, as it is trying to suppress the power of their response, their disagreement with the insult you have just given them. I didn't tell anyone anything. I expressed a belief. That doesn't make me right, as in an opinion. You are extrapolating my comment into something which what? Tries to justify the unjustifiable? In my opinion, which of course could be wrong. Typical Oldie. You've expressed a belief, but you're an old white man, which obviously makes you racist. You cannot have an opinion as you are tainted (am I allowed to say that?).
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Post by althepirate on Dec 12, 2018 15:46:10 GMT
I didn't tell anyone anything. I expressed a belief. That doesn't make me right, as in an opinion. You are extrapolating my comment into something which what? Tries to justify the unjustifiable? In my opinion, which of course could be wrong. Typical Oldie. You've expressed a belief, but you're an old white man, which obviously makes you racist. You cannot have an opinion as you are tainted (am I allowed to say that?). No Nobby, Oldie called Midlands a racist because he used the word Asians when he should have said 'people' this makes him a racist. However it is ok to shorten the word to 'A' and then to include it with the other letters 'B' 'M' 'E' if you want to form a separate group. Are you clear now? right let's move on shall we. ....
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2018 15:56:05 GMT
I didn't tell anyone anything. I expressed a belief. That doesn't make me right, as in an opinion. You are extrapolating my comment into something which what? Tries to justify the unjustifiable? In my opinion, which of course could be wrong. Typical Oldie. You've expressed a belief, but you're an old white man, which obviously makes you racist. You cannot have an opinion as you are tainted (am I allowed to say that?). Ha ha. But the belief I expressed was anti racist.😜😜
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2018 15:57:34 GMT
Typical Oldie. You've expressed a belief, but you're an old white man, which obviously makes you racist. You cannot have an opinion as you are tainted (am I allowed to say that?). No Nobby, Oldie called Midlands a racist because he used the word Asians when he should have said 'people' this makes him a racist. However it is ok to shorten the word to 'A' and then to include it with the other letters 'B' 'M' 'E' if you want to form a separate group. Are you clear now? right let's move on shall we. .... Ah, so using the 'A' in BAME is allowed then ! Who'd have thunk it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2018 15:58:56 GMT
Typical Oldie. You've expressed a belief, but you're an old white man, which obviously makes you racist. You cannot have an opinion as you are tainted (am I allowed to say that?). No Nobby, Oldie called Midlands a racist because he used the word Asians when he should have said 'people' this makes him a racist. However it is ok to shorten the word to 'A' and then to include it with the other letters 'B' 'M' 'E' if you want to form a separate group. Are you clear now? right let's move on shall we. .... I think it does because it implies a derogatory permutation.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2018 15:59:58 GMT
Typical Oldie. You've expressed a belief, but you're an old white man, which obviously makes you racist. You cannot have an opinion as you are tainted (am I allowed to say that?). Ha ha. But the belief I expressed was anti racist.😜😜 There is the problem Oldie, you think it was anti-racist, but all it did was to actually express your sub-conscience racist thoughts........the Hate Police will be knocking on your door shortly. The very fact you claim that it was 'anti-racist' just proves your guilt.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2018 16:00:03 GMT
No Nobby, Oldie called Midlands a racist because he used the word Asians when he should have said 'people' this makes him a racist. However it is ok to shorten the word to 'A' and then to include it with the other letters 'B' 'M' 'E' if you want to form a separate group. Are you clear now? right let's move on shall we. .... Ah, so using the 'A' in BAME is allowed then ! Who'd have thunk it. Ha ha, who is defining allowed?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2018 16:05:03 GMT
Ha ha. But the belief I expressed was anti racist.😜😜 There is the problem Oldie, you think it was anti-racist, but all it did was to actually express your sub-conscience racist thoughts........the Hate Police will be knocking on your door shortly. The very fact you claim that it was 'anti-racist' just proves your guilt. Not sure how get to there, but hey.🙉
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Post by althepirate on Dec 12, 2018 16:56:32 GMT
He mentioned it because he's a racist. The end. I believe he is, I also believe he doesn't realise it There you go Mr Oldie, you didn't realise you said that did you?
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Post by gashead1981 on Dec 12, 2018 17:31:46 GMT
One of my neighbours is a complete tosser, sadly we have fallen out a few times over the years, mainly because he acts a bit lord of the manor and hates being challenged. When I talk about him to others, I never say, my white skinned middle class neighbour is a tosser. Why, because his skin colour makes absolutely no difference to the fact that he a complete bell end most of the time. It seems to come naturally to him regardless of what skin his personality is enshrouded in.
So why did midland have to say that his neighbours were of a particular race?
Why not say what they did or how they were that drove him mad, rather than focusing on some kind of racial stereo type.
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Post by althepirate on Dec 12, 2018 18:11:14 GMT
One of my neighbours is a complete tosser, sadly we have fallen out a few times over the years, mainly because he acts a bit lord of the manor and hates being challenged. When I talk about him to others, I never say, my white skinned middle class neighbour is a tosser. Why, because his skin colour makes absolutely no difference to the fact that he a complete bell end most of the time. It seems to come naturally to him regardless of what skin his personality is enshrouded in. So why did midland have to say that his neighbours were of a particular race? Why not say what they did or how they were that drove him mad, rather than focusing on some kind of racial stereo type. I can't speak for him but probably because racism is generally thought of as white to non whites, leaving the impression that non whites are always well behaved. He may have been giving an example that non whites are not always well behaved, maybe.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2018 19:31:15 GMT
Anyone want to know a few more facts first about how Midlands neighbours allegedly made he and his wifes's life hell before getting all butt hurt?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2018 20:21:52 GMT
Anyone want to know a few more facts first about how Midlands neighbours allegedly made he and his wifes's life hell before getting all butt hurt? Too late Weeezord. Midland has now been branded a racist and there is no going back from that.....oh, and Satan wants a word with you. He's offended because you have implied that Hell is not nice.....oh, and that 'butt hurt' comment obviously shows that you are Homophobic. As you support Midland that makes you, by association, a racist, and you are also homophobic. By God lad, you've got a lot to answer for !
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2018 20:39:09 GMT
I find it interesting given your post that you only focus on the word black ,the signs read No Irish, No Blacks, No Dogs , why did you leave the Irish out as at the time they were hated more than most. Whilst i agree that bad behaviour is bad behaviour no matter who causes it ,people seem to have a closed mind when reading midlands posts ,i read it as it was intended that as most people seem to believe that racism is a whites only problem ,he was highlighting something that happened to him, how would people have reacted if he said that he forced the asians out ,quite correctly people would have had a right benny at him ,however he didn't say that ,he said the opposite and again people had a benny at him ,he was simply highlighting the fact that racism can come from anywhere. Reread it with an open mind ,he's saying that racism isn't solely a white problem but when it's muted to be from a non white people get their knickers in a twist and claim the poster is racist I have no issues with accepting there is racism within all societies and ethnic groupings. My issue with Midland is that he raised the issue of poor behaviour from his neighbours. In itself not an issue, perhaps many of us have felt the same on occasion about neighbours. My issue is he related it to the fact they were Indian, and a family of 8. Neither is relevant, the only relevance is their poor behaviour (as claimed). Why mention their ethnicity? He didn't say the family were Indian.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2018 20:57:50 GMT
I have no issues with accepting there is racism within all societies and ethnic groupings. My issue with Midland is that he raised the issue of poor behaviour from his neighbours. In itself not an issue, perhaps many of us have felt the same on occasion about neighbours. My issue is he related it to the fact they were Indian, and a family of 8. Neither is relevant, the only relevance is their poor behaviour (as claimed). Why mention their ethnicity? He didn't say the family were Indian. I stand corrected. My apologies to all concerned. What he actually said was "And again racism is a two way thing we lived in a house for over 30 years and had an Asian family of 8 adults move in next door into a 3 bed semi and made our lives hell" Go figure
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2018 21:02:34 GMT
He didn't say the family were Indian. I stand corrected. My apologies to all concerned. What he actually said was "And again racism is a two way thing we lived in a house for over 30 years and had an Asian family of 8 adults move in next door into a 3 bed semi and made our lives hell" Go figure Go figure what?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2018 21:10:48 GMT
I stand corrected. My apologies to all concerned. What he actually said was "And again racism is a two way thing we lived in a house for over 30 years and had an Asian family of 8 adults move in next door into a 3 bed semi and made our lives hell" Go figure Go figure what? Go figure which country or nationality you wish to insert as Asian It won't be white folks from Hartcliff will it?
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