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Post by lastminutewinner on Jan 1, 2019 13:05:48 GMT
He is worth it if someone is willing to pay it. Is Chaplin worth 500k? was Marc Mcnulty worth 1.5million? Luton will be looking at over 1 million for Jack Stacey British players are overpriced these days so you have to squeeze as much out of it as you can. A 24 yr old international who is scoring goals shouldnt be sold cheap. Locks is a very solid, whole-hearted player but for me there's three big things that will detract Championship clubs from signing him : his passing is erratic, his heading is poor and he's not blessed with pace. If he improves the first two maybe he'll going a season or two. Well apart from the heading part, that's pretty much describing Aden Flint who went for 7 million
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Post by axegas on Jan 1, 2019 13:14:47 GMT
I think people underestimate just how good Lockyer has been for us over the years. He very rarely makes a mistake and plays well most weeks for us, we haven't been as defensively solid as we would have liked in previous seasons but Lockyer has learnt from it and got better and better, this season has probably been one of his best in terms of clean sheets and individual performances. He is fully deserving of a move having been a loyal servant of the club since the John Ward days and given the right players around him and hard work, I think he can make a success of his career.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jan 1, 2019 13:41:32 GMT
I think people underestimate just how good Lockyer has been for us over the years. That might be a good thing. Istr there was a gap of about two months between the Gas finally coming to a consensus that Ellis was decent, and him being too good for us to keep.
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Post by socrates on Jan 1, 2019 13:49:28 GMT
I think people underestimate just how good Lockyer has been for us over the years. He very rarely makes a mistake and plays well most weeks for us, we haven't been as defensively solid as we would have liked in previous seasons but Lockyer has learnt from it and got better and better, this season has probably been one of his best in terms of clean sheets and individual performances. He is fully deserving of a move having been a loyal servant of the club since the John Ward days and given the right players around him and hard work, I think he can make a success of his career. I think he already has made a success of his career I bet he’s on at least 3 grand a week I’d like to earn that much. I’m not convinced he’s championship standard but might be one day.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Jan 1, 2019 14:02:22 GMT
I think people underestimate just how good Lockyer has been for us over the years. He very rarely makes a mistake and plays well most weeks for us, we haven't been as defensively solid as we would have liked in previous seasons but Lockyer has learnt from it and got better and better, this season has probably been one of his best in terms of clean sheets and individual performances. He is fully deserving of a move having been a loyal servant of the club since the John Ward days and given the right players around him and hard work, I think he can make a success of his career. I think he already has made a success of his career I bet he’s on at least 3 grand a week I’d like to earn that much. I’m not convinced he’s championship standard but might be one day. Maybe Ellis can put in a good word for Lockyer at Ipswich and we can do a straight swop for Nsiala who actually has a bit of much needed pace
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Post by pirate on Jan 1, 2019 18:12:31 GMT
Garner would still be my number one choice as manager, with Cogs as assistant. I don't think Garner would join us in any other role but manager. Has he even applied? No idea, but he doesn't have to apply for us to make an approach.
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Post by pirate on Jan 1, 2019 18:17:31 GMT
Garner would still be my number one choice as manager, with Cogs as assistant. I don't think Garner would join us in any other role but manager. What’s the connection between those two ? Not arguing just genuinely interested to know ? I’m a bit concerned the board might do something like this without thinking about the personality traits of these people and enough thought whether they would match. They are people after all not just managers and coaches. Surely the manager chooses who his assistant is. Anyway I hope Cogs gets it until the end of the season. The manager would obviously have the final say on who his assistant would be. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that decision will be made by Garner because I think he is an exciting prospect as manager for all the reasons I have mentioned previously.
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Post by gashead1981 on Jan 1, 2019 19:00:40 GMT
Ha. Who were the unlucky 7 then...
1. Nichols 2. Payne 3. Leads 4. Matthews 5. Rodman 6. Lines 7. Bennett
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Post by Gashead73 on Jan 1, 2019 19:06:29 GMT
GC for me until the end of season then review
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Post by markczgas on Jan 2, 2019 0:10:28 GMT
GC for me until the end of season then review I would say this, I thought we were going to finish 24th at the beginning of Dec - the team was that flat and weak-looking. Now, thanks to GC and his support team I'd be very confident that we'd stay up, so I guess he does deserve the job (but I'd look to get someone else in in the summer - who'd then have a whole pre-season to shape his team/squad.
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Post by althepirate on Jan 2, 2019 9:30:08 GMT
TBH appointing a Manager is just a bloody gamble. Raw managers do well, experienced managers do badly and vice versa. The reality is whoever they choose after a few losses the negative posters on here will go into overdrive because they only have the power to criticise not to appoint.
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Post by Colyton Gas on Jan 2, 2019 9:54:18 GMT
Port Vale likely to sack their manager to-morrow according to local Radio here.Stoke and Crewe fans also moaning vociferously.
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Post by gashead1981 on Jan 2, 2019 10:40:09 GMT
I could see DC going to Stoke if they get rid. The type of manager they need too as the squad is full of over paid premier league charlie's not performing in a league below.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2019 11:05:45 GMT
I think he already has made a success of his career I bet he’s on at least 3 grand a week I’d like to earn that much. I’m not convinced he’s championship standard but might be one day. Maybe Ellis can put in a good word for Lockyer at Ipswich and we can do a straight swop for Nsiala who actually has a bit of much needed pace Yet he cant get a start at ipswich.
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Post by contradiction on Jan 2, 2019 11:07:12 GMT
TBH appointing a Manager is just a bloody gamble. Raw managers do well, experienced managers do badly and vice versa. The reality is whoever they choose after a few losses the negative posters on here will go into overdrive because they only have the power to criticise not to appoint. Indeed. The thing with the make believe managers on here is that its literally impossible to prove them wrong, hence they post their negativity. If we win a game then they would have selected that same team and used those same tactics or formation. If we lose a game they would have selected a different team with different tactics. That position can never be verified, as it will never be reality. The narrative may change a little, but not the context. Current narrative is that DC played players out of position (incorrect ) and changed the team too often If we lose a few games the narrative will be that GC plays too direct, too defensive, and is too rigid in formation. If we appoint GC and we go down, you wont be able to find a poster at the end of the season who wanted him appointed.
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Post by lympstonegas on Jan 2, 2019 11:13:00 GMT
Port Vale likely to sack their manager to-morrow according to local Radio here.Stoke and Crewe fans also moaning vociferously. Can understand Stokes frustration I’m frustrated myself with their result yesterday lol
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jan 2, 2019 11:15:31 GMT
No way Locks is worth £2m. Commenting on the potential set up, a lot depends on whether we promote CH into the first team role or leave him with the U23s. If CH stays with the U23 we have a vacancy for an assistant manager too. If that was the case I would offer it to Ben Garner. He is worth it if someone is willing to pay it. Is Chaplin worth 500k?was Marc Mcnulty worth 1.5million? Luton will be looking at over 1 million for Jack Stacey British players are overpriced these days so you have to squeeze as much out of it as you can. A 24 yr old international who is scoring goals shouldnt be sold cheap. Yes, I would have loved us to have signed him and is the sort of player/fee I hoped we would be setting our targets on (but reality has since sunkin). Think they will go on to make a profit from him despite him not being in the best of form at the moment.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jan 2, 2019 11:16:46 GMT
I could see DC going to Stoke if they get rid. The type of manager they need too as the squad is full of over paid premier league charlie's not performing in a league below. No chance. Unfortunately for DC, I think his stock has fallen quite a way since his 2 promotions. He'll probably end up at a L2 club, L1 if he is lucky.
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Post by Jomo on Jan 2, 2019 11:19:52 GMT
I could see DC going to Stoke if they get rid. The type of manager they need too as the squad is full of over paid premier league charlie's not performing in a league below. No chance. Unfortunately for DC, I think his stock has fallen quite a way since his 2 promotions. He'll probably end up at a L2 club, L1 if he is lucky. Agreed, sadly for him as his loyalty to us was perhaps inevitably going to see his stock fall eventually as getting us a 3rd promotion was never realistic.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jan 2, 2019 11:23:10 GMT
No chance. Unfortunately for DC, I think his stock has fallen quite a way since his 2 promotions. He'll probably end up at a L2 club, L1 if he is lucky. Agreed, sadly for him as his loyalty to us was perhaps inevitably going to see his stock fall eventually as getting us a 3rd promotion was never realistic. It is very sad and goes to show that loyalty in football counts for nothing and can actually be detrimental for someone's career. Exactly why you can't blame somebody like Matty Taylor for making the move he did, as much as it pained us! It's very sad though.
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