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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 17:14:44 GMT
If she is not a Bangladeshi citizen (and I suspect not) then the home Secretary is in breach of international law. Unless you can show me that is not true then I cannot understand how you can support a government breaking the law. This guy puts it well. Sir Philip Pullman, CBE, FRSL (born 19 October 1946), is an English novelist. He is the author of several best-selling books, including the fantasy trilogy His Dark Materialsand the fictionalised biography of Jesus, The Good Man Jesus and the Scoundrel Christ. In 2008, The Times named Pullman one of the "50 greatest British writers since 1945".[1] In a 2004 poll for the BBC, Pullman was named the eleventh most influential person in British culture.[2][3] He said Check out @philippullman’s Tweet: Quite. By Clive Coleman, BBC legal correspondent Under Bangladesh law, a UK national like Ms Begum who is born to a Bangladeshi parent is automatically a Bangladeshi citizen. That means that such a person would have dual nationality. However, their Bangladeshi nationality and citizenship lapses when they reach the age of 21, unless they make active efforts to retain it. So, it is Ms Begum's age, 19, that is likely - in part - to have given Home Office lawyers and the home secretary reassurance there was a legal basis for stripping her of her UK citizenship. Assuming the BBC is a reasonable source, no laws have been broken. Huzzah ! |
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Post by stuart1974 on Feb 20, 2019 18:00:10 GMT
Time limited to 21, that'll be fun for the lawyers in 2 years time.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 20, 2019 18:02:48 GMT
Time limited to 21, that'll be fun for the lawyers in 2 years time. Not really. Bangladesh cant make her stateless in 2 years time. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 18:18:04 GMT
Time limited to 21, that'll be fun for the lawyers in 2 years time. Not really. Bangladesh cant make her stateless in 2 years time. Well if true, it's tenuous but probably just about enough there to give Javid enough room to move. Sentence without trial remains a problem for me. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Feb 20, 2019 18:33:51 GMT
Time limited to 21, that'll be fun for the lawyers in 2 years time. Not really. Bangladesh cant make her stateless in 2 years time. You've got more faith in the system than I have.😉 The article said she has to apply and could let it lapse with a view to challenging in the courts or the UN. Not saying it will happen, but not sure it is Bangladesh's responsibility or even gift to offer and she may decline anyway. She becomes a test case too. Hope not for many reasons, but I think things will carry on for some time. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 18:48:35 GMT
Not really. Bangladesh cant make her stateless in 2 years time. You've got more faith in the system than I have.😉 The article said she has to apply and could let it lapse with a view to challenging in the courts or the UN. Not saying it will happen, but not sure it is Bangladesh's responsibility or even gift to offer and she may decline anyway. She becomes a test case too. Hope not for many reasons, but I think things will carry on for some time. Well, she can always stay in Syria which was her chosen destination. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 19:02:49 GMT
So, Bangladesh has said she is not.
How inconvenient.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 19:08:54 GMT
So, Bangladesh has said she is not. How inconvenient. All she has to do is find somewhere else that supports genocide, murder, beheadings, burning alive, torture, slavery of women (sold on as sex slaves) etc, and she'll be fine. |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 20, 2019 19:08:57 GMT
So, Bangladesh has said she is not. How inconvenient. It's a matter of Bangladesh law. Thankfully, we have acted according to law too.  |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 20, 2019 19:11:55 GMT
Not really. Bangladesh cant make her stateless in 2 years time. Well if true, it's tenuous but probably just about enough there to give Javid enough room to move. Sentence without trial remains a problem for me. Sentenced to what?? |
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Post by jaggas on Feb 20, 2019 19:19:08 GMT
Because there are more white people in the country you donut!! Child benefit is given to all parents no matter what their ethnicity or financial status so the child benefit stat you used is a red herring....I suppose it's just a coincidence that Sikhs and Hindus have far more positive stats than Islamic community? Not a statistically minded person are you. It's done as a % of demographic you bagel. White British was also higher for non income related benefits I.e your child benefit. Why not stick to what you are good at and stay away from any of the factual driven discussion? Of course it is and the stats back up what I said in my original post the majority of muslims in this country claim benefits and do not work so do not contribute....Its no big secret that the women in the Islamic communities are forced to stay at home and become breeding machines as that is all they are seen as in that culture.The stats about the muslim community and lack of actual people working from those communities are so depressing it has been suggested that muslims are being discriminated against at the job application stage.That is hardly surprising as any employer will pick Simon Jones over Abdullah Mohamed if they have the same qualifications as Abdullah will demand religious privileges in the workplace and that is an unwanted pain in the ass for any employer.....Its not racism as Mr Patel and Mr Singh will have as much chance of getting a job as Simon Jones. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 19:30:05 GMT
Well if true, it's tenuous but probably just about enough there to give Javid enough room to move. Sentence without trial remains a problem for me. Sentenced to what?? Removal of her rights as a UK citizen. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 19:33:32 GMT
Not a statistically minded person are you. It's done as a % of demographic you bagel. White British was also higher for non income related benefits I.e your child benefit. Why not stick to what you are good at and stay away from any of the factual driven discussion? Of course it is and the stats back up what I said in my original post the majority of muslims in this country claim benefits and do not work so do not contribute....Its no big secret that the women in the Islamic communities are forced to stay at home and become breeding machines as that is all they are seen as in that culture.The stats about the muslim community and lack of actual people working from those communities are so depressing it has been suggested that muslims are being discriminated against at the job application stage.That is hardly surprising as any employer will pick Simon Jones over Abdullah Mohamed if they have the same qualifications as Abdullah will demand religious privileges in the workplace and that is an unwanted pain in the ass for any employer.....Its not racism as Mr Patel and Mr Singh will have as much chance of getting a job as Simon Jones. Jesus people, we all may have different opinions, disagree and get a bit heated on occasion. But this infantile, semi literate tripe is getting tedious. 🤮🤮🤮 |
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Post by jaggas on Feb 20, 2019 19:55:33 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 19:56:29 GMT
Removal of her rights as a UK citizen. I have served my country and paid tax in the UK for a substantial part of my adult life, and I still pay some tax in the UK. However, because I have now lived outside the UK for fifteen years I no longer have a vote. In fact, I do not have a vote anywhere, not even in the country I live. In your opinion, she could come back, after serving the evil ISIS, and she would be able to vote. Just who has had their rights removed? |
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Post by William Wilson on Feb 20, 2019 20:00:32 GMT
So, Bangladesh has said she is not. How inconvenient. All she has to do is find somewhere else that supports genocide, murder, beheadings, burning alive, torture, slavery of women (sold on as sex slaves) etc, and she'll be fine. Put like that, the answer’s been staring us in the face all along. She can live with Oldie. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 20:04:30 GMT
All she has to do is find somewhere else that supports genocide, murder, beheadings, burning alive, torture, slavery of women (sold on as sex slaves) etc, and she'll be fine. Put like that, the answer’s been staring us in the face all along. She can live with Oldie. Ooo, that could cause trouble. He's have to ditch the wine cellar and no more singing in the bath. She wouldn't like that sort of behaviour. |
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Feb 20, 2019 20:05:53 GMT
Not a statistically minded person are you. It's done as a % of demographic you bagel. White British was also higher for non income related benefits I.e your child benefit. Why not stick to what you are good at and stay away from any of the factual driven discussion? Of course it is and the stats back up what I said in my original post the majority of muslims in this country claim benefits and do not work so do not contribute....Its no big secret that the women in the Islamic communities are forced to stay at home and become breeding machines as that is all they are seen as in that culture.The stats about the muslim community and lack of actual people working from those communities are so depressing it has been suggested that muslims are being discriminated against at the job application stage.That is hardly surprising as any employer will pick Simon Jones over Abdullah Mohamed if they have the same qualifications as Abdullah will demand religious privileges in the workplace and that is an unwanted pain in the ass for any employer.....Its not racism as Mr Patel and Mr Singh will have as much chance of getting a job as Simon Jones. You're clearly out of your depth because you are leaking your normal boring drivel again. Challenge: Go off and find some really good factual evidence to prove your claims and bring it to debate. Don't come back until you do eh. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Feb 20, 2019 20:09:14 GMT
You've got more faith in the system than I have.😉 The article said she has to apply and could let it lapse with a view to challenging in the courts or the UN. Not saying it will happen, but not sure it is Bangladesh's responsibility or even gift to offer and she may decline anyway. She becomes a test case too. Hope not for many reasons, but I think things will carry on for some time. Well, she can always stay in Syria which was her chosen destination. Appreciate the sentiment, but her lawyers will be here. I wonder if LJG is still reading the forum. Be interested in his legal view of how this could play out. |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 20, 2019 20:22:47 GMT
That's a satire, not a documentary. |
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