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Post by stuart1974 on Feb 17, 2019 18:00:01 GMT
TBF to Jaggas, I do actually agree with him. She obviously doesn't give a sh!t, you just have to read the interview to see that. The husband (who married a child...) what did he do for ISIS? Can't see it being paperwork somehow. If she must come "home" let her make her own way home. She managed just fine getting over there. Why should the army send troops in to "save her" and put their lives on the line? It's not like it's a kidnapping, where we all would be happy for them to go in. I agree with jaggas narrative. For all of you left wing loonies who would welcome her back with open arms. Would you share a train carriage or bus with her on her return? Can't say I would. I'm neither left wing nor a loony and no, I don't think we should take risks to get her out. If she does make it, we should take her and put her in front of a UK court and put the child into care. The train carriage reference is unnecessary. |
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Post by South Stand Ultra on Feb 17, 2019 18:06:30 GMT
TBF to Jaggas, I do actually agree with him. She obviously doesn't give a sh!t, you just have to read the interview to see that. The husband (who married a child...) what did he do for ISIS? Can't see it being paperwork somehow. If she must come "home" let her make her own way home. She managed just fine getting over there. Why should the army send troops in to "save her" and put their lives on the line? It's not like it's a kidnapping, where we all would be happy for them to go in. I agree with jaggas narrative. For all of you left wing loonies who would welcome her back with open arms. Would you share a train carriage or bus with her on her return? Can't say I would. I'm neither left wing nor a loony and no, I don't think we should take risks to get her out. If she does make it, we should take her and put her in front of a UK court and put the child into care. The train carriage reference is unnecessary. Serious question. Your about to get on a train, and notice she is to be sat opposite you during your journey.
You would be happy to stay there sitting opposite her for the rest of your journey?
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Post by stuart1974 on Feb 17, 2019 18:45:16 GMT
I'm neither left wing nor a loony and no, I don't think we should take risks to get her out. If she does make it, we should take her and put her in front of a UK court and put the child into care. The train carriage reference is unnecessary. Serious question. Your about to get on a train, and notice she is to be sat opposite you during your journey.
You would be happy to stay there sitting opposite her for the rest of your journey?
In truth she would probably go unnoticed by most. To answer your question, then if she is here on the terms I proposed then yes, I would. That is based n the point that to be there she would have been through the deradicalisation programme or be monitored. Without that, she would still be detained. The other thing to bear in mind is that she is 19, there is still time for her to change. Whether she will grasp the opportunity is down to her. |
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Post by jaggas on Feb 17, 2019 19:00:14 GMT
Sadly Stuart the indications are she will not change as she doesnt want to...It seems all she wants now are the benefits of being a British citizen ie: free housing, free money and free healthcare.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 19:03:19 GMT
Nah, you just read every other post, except the one he answered.... eh?
Except he didn't, not really. I tried to find it without success and he has a history of misinterpretating articles and failing to provide links. I'd like to read it and have asked for the link, hopefully he will provide it. Back in town. Exactky Stuart, perhaps South Stand can provide the link? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 19:05:52 GMT
Except he didn't, not really. I tried to find it without success and he has a history of misinterpretating articles and failing to provide links. I'd like to read it and have asked for the link, hopefully he will provide it. The link was on twitter and was quickly removed probably because The Guardians readership would be appalled her loving Father was being vilified by a section of the media that usually loves and embraces all of Islam in all its barbaric entirety. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Is there any limit to this stupidity? Apparently not. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 19:06:48 GMT
I'm neither left wing nor a loony and no, I don't think we should take risks to get her out. If she does make it, we should take her and put her in front of a UK court and put the child into care. The train carriage reference is unnecessary. Serious question. Your about to get on a train, and notice she is to be sat opposite you during your journey.
You would be happy to stay there sitting opposite her for the rest of your journey?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 19:08:00 GMT
Serious question. Your about to get on a train, and notice she is to be sat opposite you during your journey.
You would be happy to stay there sitting opposite her for the rest of your journey?
In truth she would probably go unnoticed by most. To answer your question, then if she is here on the terms I proposed then yes, I would. That is based n the point that to be there she would have been through the deradicalisation programme or be monitored. Without that, she would still be detained. The other thing to bear in mind is that she is 19, there is still time for her to change. Whether she will grasp the opportunity is down to her. If I was aware who she was I would not go anywhere near her - even though the risk might be minimal why would anyone take the chance? Being such a great liberal minded human human being won't feel so great if she did decide to blow anyone in the vicinity up. With regard to having "time to change" I know I will have a completely different philosophy to you. Everyone comes into this world with a clean slate and I get fed up with people being given a second chance and going onto commit more crimes. Numerous cases in the last year of murderers being released early who then go on to kill again - if judges, probation officers, psychiatrists deem people "changed" or "recovered" they should have to take responsibly when it goes drastically wrong. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 19:08:43 GMT
She also said she was only a housewife who looked after her husband and her children.....She did a pretty sh** job of that as both her children died from malnutrition.Not sure what her Dutch husband was doing while his children were starving to death probably cutting peoples heads off or throwing poor gay chaps from buildings or like most ISIS fighters and a lot of fellow muslims in Europe he was raping underage girls. It really is tough finding a solution to this mess but a favourable one that keeps the UK safe and saves taxpayers about £250k per year would be to send her entire family to the refugee camp she is currently staying in.Her family do not work or contribute positively to our society in any way whatsoever so that would be good riddance.Her father is a nasty piece of work who deserves to live in squalor rather than in a country he hates at its taxpayers expense. We could look at the country of origin of the girls husband, maybe the Dutch government could assist them if they can find the time as at the moment they seem preoccupied with trying to steal small crumbs of British business like the snakes they are.Holland will be an Islamic nation within 40 years so why not let the lowest form of Islamic scum and their offspring keep the ball rolling there? A positive solution could be to allow them to stay with Stuart Sprout or Oldie....Stuart scours the internet to defend Islam even in its most vilest forms,if you see the girl and how shes dressed Sprout has approved of full muslim garb in the past as it strangely makes him proud of multiculturalism.Oldie has vast experience of Islam and it is the only religion he has time for and defends to the hilt while rubbishing every other religion those ghastly white people follow as it makes him look Liberal cool and right on. I just stopped laughing. Is there no limit to some people's ignorance? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 19:10:26 GMT
In truth she would probably go unnoticed by most. To answer your question, then if she is here on the terms I proposed then yes, I would. That is based n the point that to be there she would have been through the deradicalisation programme or be monitored. Without that, she would still be detained. The other thing to bear in mind is that she is 19, there is still time for her to change. Whether she will grasp the opportunity is down to her. If I was aware who she was I would not go anywhere near her - even though the risk might be minimal why would anyone take the chance? Being such a great liberal minded human human being won't feel so great if she did decide to blow anyone in the vicinity up. With regard to having "time to change" I know I will have a completely different philosophy to you. Everyone comes into this world with a clean slate and I get fed up with people being given a second chance and going onto commit more crimes. Numerous cases in the last year of murderers being released early who then go on to kill again - if judges, probation officers, psychiatrists deem people "changed" or "recovered" they should have to take responsibly when it goes drastically wrong. Yep Like the white guy who stabbed and shot Jo Cox. |
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Post by inee on Feb 17, 2019 19:22:04 GMT
Inee said To answer the bit in bold your words were as follows, I think a key point here is were, or are, ISIS fighting the UK, so please explain your defence of isis terrorist attacks in this country as you stated you dont believe they have, despite some of those involved supporting isis, and evidence showing sympathy to isis in others (a strange point of view given your stance in other threads about the laws of this land). If you could rephrase that into a comprehensible paragraph or set of questions, then happy to engage. Lmao if you haven't got the skill set to read and understand that post, then i really feel sorry for you, still never mind , were you bullied at school as you really do have a superiority complex, in reality does it matter if posts are spelt properly or sentences not divided into paragraphs is it really beyond your tiny brain to be able to split test up. I really do feel sorry for people like you having to live amongst us commoners ,do you identify as a working class snob or are you a tampon no fecking use your just stuck up c unt |
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Post by stuart1974 on Feb 17, 2019 19:23:15 GMT
She also said she was only a housewife who looked after her husband and her children.....She did a pretty sh** job of that as both her children died from malnutrition.Not sure what her Dutch husband was doing while his children were starving to death probably cutting peoples heads off or throwing poor gay chaps from buildings or like most ISIS fighters and a lot of fellow muslims in Europe he was raping underage girls. It really is tough finding a solution to this mess but a favourable one that keeps the UK safe and saves taxpayers about £250k per year would be to send her entire family to the refugee camp she is currently staying in.Her family do not work or contribute positively to our society in any way whatsoever so that would be good riddance.Her father is a nasty piece of work who deserves to live in squalor rather than in a country he hates at its taxpayers expense. We could look at the country of origin of the girls husband, maybe the Dutch government could assist them if they can find the time as at the moment they seem preoccupied with trying to steal small crumbs of British business like the snakes they are.Holland will be an Islamic nation within 40 years so why not let the lowest form of Islamic scum and their offspring keep the ball rolling there? A positive solution could be to allow them to stay with Stuart Sprout or Oldie....Stuart scours the internet to defend Islam even in its most vilest forms,if you see the girl and how shes dressed Sprout has approved of full muslim garb in the past as it strangely makes him proud of multiculturalism.Oldie has vast experience of Islam and it is the only religion he has time for and defends to the hilt while rubbishing every other religion those ghastly white people follow as it makes him look Liberal cool and right on. Just realised I was mentioned in despatched here. You couldn't be more wrong. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Feb 17, 2019 19:25:17 GMT
Sadly Stuart the indications are she will not change as she doesnt want to...It seems all she wants now are the benefits of being a British citizen ie: free housing, free money and free healthcare. Only one way to find out, if you are right then she stays in free housing, ie HMP. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 19:26:09 GMT
If I was aware who she was I would not go anywhere near her - even though the risk might be minimal why would anyone take the chance? Being such a great liberal minded human human being won't feel so great if she did decide to blow anyone in the vicinity up. With regard to having "time to change" I know I will have a completely different philosophy to you. Everyone comes into this world with a clean slate and I get fed up with people being given a second chance and going onto commit more crimes. Numerous cases in the last year of murderers being released early who then go on to kill again - if judges, probation officers, psychiatrists deem people "changed" or "recovered" they should have to take responsibly when it goes drastically wrong. Yep Like the white guy who stabbed and shot Jo Cox. Why have you bought the colour of someone's skin up? I don't care whether a terrorist, murderer, rapist or paedophile is black, white, green or orange - the only way to guarantee the general populations safety from such scum is to lock them up forever. Start putting the majority first instead of risking their safety with ridiculous gambles that someone has been successfully rehabilitated. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Feb 17, 2019 19:30:12 GMT
In truth she would probably go unnoticed by most. To answer your question, then if she is here on the terms I proposed then yes, I would. That is based n the point that to be there she would have been through the deradicalisation programme or be monitored. Without that, she would still be detained. The other thing to bear in mind is that she is 19, there is still time for her to change. Whether she will grasp the opportunity is down to her. If I was aware who she was I would not go anywhere near her - even though the risk might be minimal why would anyone take the chance? Being such a great liberal minded human human being won't feel so great if she did decide to blow anyone in the vicinity up. With regard to having "time to change" I know I will have a completely different philosophy to you. Everyone comes into this world with a clean slate and I get fed up with people being given a second chance and going onto commit more crimes. Numerous cases in the last year of murderers being released early who then go on to kill again - if judges, probation officers, psychiatrists deem people "changed" or "recovered" they should have to take responsibly when it goes drastically wrong. Well, that is your opinion and no less valid for it. I just don't like writing off someone at such a young age when should they change it would help prevent further cases. We use her example. If she won't, then she stays incarcerated. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 19:44:20 GMT
If I was aware who she was I would not go anywhere near her - even though the risk might be minimal why would anyone take the chance? Being such a great liberal minded human human being won't feel so great if she did decide to blow anyone in the vicinity up. With regard to having "time to change" I know I will have a completely different philosophy to you. Everyone comes into this world with a clean slate and I get fed up with people being given a second chance and going onto commit more crimes. Numerous cases in the last year of murderers being released early who then go on to kill again - if judges, probation officers, psychiatrists deem people "changed" or "recovered" they should have to take responsibly when it goes drastically wrong. Well, that is your opinion and no less valid for it. I just don't like writing off someone at such a young age when should they change it would help prevent further cases. We use her example. If she won't, then she stays incarcerated. The trouble is that a decision on whether she has changed is always going to be a very subjective judgement call and the consequences of getting it wrong could be catastrophic. I'm all for giving someone a second chance for shoplifting, burglary, minor assault etc, particular when they are young, but where individuals have already killed or have strong associations with groups such as ISIS then public safety should always come before the individual. |
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Post by jaggas on Feb 17, 2019 20:05:53 GMT
Incarcerated for what? Why is no one asking questions of the father from Holland the new baby is half Dutch.Surely it's Hollands problem as well and they should be doing all they can to bring home one of their Muslim sons and his new family.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 20:29:09 GMT
Incarcerated for what? Why is no one asking questions of the father from Holland the new baby is half Dutch.Surely it's Hollands problem as well and they should be doing all they can to bring home one of their Muslim sons and his new family. Good point. Bit sexist of everyone to assume the mother (or to be more accurate the UK taxpayer) should take care of her baby. What about the dads "rights" !!!!! The UK is such an evil place as shown by the brexit vote, surely the kid would have a better future being bought up in the EU. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 20:39:23 GMT
Inee said To answer the bit in bold your words were as follows, I think a key point here is were, or are, ISIS fighting the UK, so please explain your defence of isis terrorist attacks in this country as you stated you dont believe they have, despite some of those involved supporting isis, and evidence showing sympathy to isis in others (a strange point of view given your stance in other threads about the laws of this land). If you could rephrase that into a comprehensible paragraph or set of questions, then happy to engage. Lmao if you haven't got the skill set to read and understand that post, then i really feel sorry for you, still never mind , were you bullied at school as you really do have a superiority complex, in reality does it matter if posts are spelt properly or sentences not divided into paragraphs is it really beyond your tiny brain to be able to split test up. I really do feel sorry for people like you having to live amongst us commoners ,do you identify as a working class snob or are you a tampon no fecking use your just stuck up c unt 🤣🤣🤣 Ha ha. Excellent. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 20:41:05 GMT
Yep Like the white guy who stabbed and shot Jo Cox. Why have you bought the colour of someone's skin up? I don't care whether a terrorist, murderer, rapist or paedophile is black, white, green or orange - the only way to guarantee the general populations safety from such scum is to lock them up forever. Start putting the majority first instead of risking their safety with ridiculous gambles that someone has been successfully rehabilitated. Precisely So how do you know the person sat opposite you on a train is a violent terrorist, to refer to previous posts? |
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