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Post by Gastafari on Feb 20, 2019 10:34:10 GMT
It was still a disgraceful penalty. Just because I haven't taken a penalty in a World Cup Semi Final doesn't mean I can't have an opinion. I take it just because I haven't played for Manchester United I can't call Roy Keanes tackle on Alf-Inge Håland a disgrace? I've never been a Jihadi, I take it I'm not allowed to think Shamima Bugum is an utter disgrace either? That's not how it works. so Rory missing a putt is a disgrace or Ronnie missing a blue of its spot. Your choice of words is so over the top and plain wrong. It depends. I've already put synonyms of the word disgraceful and they describe Clarke-Harris penalty perfectly. I've held my hands up regarding my previous comments being misplaced and misworded.
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Post by Gassy on Feb 20, 2019 10:47:15 GMT
so Rory missing a putt is a disgrace or Ronnie missing a blue of its spot. Your choice of words is so over the top and plain wrong. It depends. I've already put synonyms of the word disgraceful and they describe Clarke-Harris penalty perfectly. I've held my hands up regarding my previous comments being misplaced and misworded. I agree with your corrected post. Of course JCH isn't a disgrace, but the 2nd penalty was tbf. As a professional footballer who plays as a striker, you have to at least hit the target. Anyway, it doesn't matter now, what's done is done. Onto Sunderland!
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Post by spiess1 on Feb 20, 2019 10:53:31 GMT
The only valid synonym there is bad. 2 penalty types: A. goes in = good B. doesn't go in = bad.
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Post by GasAttacK on Feb 20, 2019 10:57:04 GMT
Good battling performance against a decent Pompey team that is admittedly a bit low on confidence.
Pity we couldn't have got the 3 points we probably deserved.
That was probably the worst penalty I've ever seen taken by a Rovers player. Has it come down yet? Decent performance by everyone, including JCH but I hope that's thne last penalty he takes for us. If he hits the bar or the keeper makes a great save then fair enough but to miss the goal by 71.3 miles must be a new record.
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Post by BelieveItWhenIAmSatInIt on Feb 20, 2019 11:10:41 GMT
It depends. I've already put synonyms of the word disgraceful and they describe Clarke-Harris penalty perfectly. I've held my hands up regarding my previous comments being misplaced and misworded. I agree with your corrected post. Of course JCH isn't a disgrace, but the 2nd penalty was tbf. As a professional footballer who plays as a striker, you have to at least hit the target. Anyway, it doesn't matter now, what's done is done. Onto Sunderland! That's not really how it works is it? Leo Messi is probably the greatest player to have ever lived, but he has still missed a pen or two. For what it is worth, JCH looked absolutely devastated at the end of the game! Came straight over to us fans and clearly apologised. I have a lot of time for fronting up like that. Also worth noting that his general play was excellent last night. He linked up really well with Jak and THD and between the three of them had our best moves of the game. Some really impressive build up play between those three. I think this penalty missed has glossed over the real weak point in our team last night, which for me was Upson. One fantastic last ditch tackle in the second half aside, I thought he was very poor. Sercs showed flashes of the undoubted class he possess, but was again a bit of fringe player on the most part. Fantastic disguised pass to JCH for the first pen (which incidentally was never a pen IMO!) and some really nice short triangle passes with the top two. For me, if we really want to get the best of Sercs he needs to be in a three man midfield with the freedom to wonder and pop up in the final third. Agogo.... Meh! Can't say I was overly impressed with him TBH. He broke up play nicely once or twice, but was again never really in the game for me. Having said that, he is still the best option for us in that deep lying DMC role. Locks and Craig were both excellent throughout and dealt with both strikers Pompey tried last night very well. Clarke was ok, scored a very clear own goal that I really cannot fathom how anyone could have missed and given to Bogle when he clearly got nowhere near it.. Finally Partington, again quite poor in my opinion, was caught out one too many times and his distribution was generally poor. That's pretty much how I saw it last night anyway.
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Post by strads1983 on Feb 20, 2019 11:35:56 GMT
I would have taken a point before, especially at a ground we always loose at and often ship three or more goals. Of course we all end up being a little disappointing when we had the chance to win. I am not so sure about those who say the same player should not take two penalties. Of course if we had someone like Lambert then he would take every one. Our other recent penalty takers were on the bench. JCH had already scored one and has experience at taking penalties. How many other players on the pitch at the time had taken a penalty in a match before? Probably hardly any of them! I like to think GC has an order of takers based on who he thinks is the best. If Nichols had come off the bench maybe he would have taken the second penalty? It was a shocker in terms of technique but the idea was right for a second penalty, smash it down the middle. He is a handful though and the pompey back four wouldn’t have enjoyed playing against him.
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Post by rememberhalifax on Feb 20, 2019 11:43:17 GMT
Look stuff happens in football and pens are missed on a regular basis ,me i would change the taker for 2ond ones and i dont like lefties taking them ! but who knows what would have happened if we had scored it? it may have woken Pompey and they may have gone hell for leather at us and we may have crumbled under the pressure but it was a point gained ,a bloody good one and another small step to survival, now turn up at The Mem Sat for the game of the season both for atmosphere and performance , not sure if we will win , but dont miss it!If Jester starts the thread we aint gonna lose and if the Gods are with us we might well cause a surprise, dont let the 'LIBRARY' tag be labelled at our crowd Saturday we must all be up for it from the off!we now have a team who are up for the fight the manager certainly is ,are we ready , you bet ,come on Rovers!!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 11:55:58 GMT
Missed penalties happen as we know ... JCHs last night was up there with the worst of them for sure.
I did laugh at the Pompey fan back 30 rows in the top tier who got hit by the ball and saved it!
We move on Gents ... point gained !
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Post by thegasareback on Feb 20, 2019 12:38:07 GMT
Has anyone seen / got footage of the alleged punch on Lockyer?
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Post by toddy1953 on Feb 20, 2019 12:47:45 GMT
Good battling performance against a decent Pompey team that is admittedly a bit low on confidence. Pity we couldn't have got the 3 points we probably deserved. That was probably the worst penalty I've ever seen taken by a Rovers player. Has it come down yet? Decent performance by everyone, including JCH but I hope that's thne last penalty he takes for us. If he hits the bar or the keeper makes a great save then fair enough but to miss the goal by 71.3 miles must be a new record. Seen worse. In the 60's we had a pen at Eastville v Millwall , the last kick of the game & Alfie Biggs stepped up against Alex Stepney. It was a windy day but he sliced his kick & almost hit the corner flag. As Spiess1 alluded to, a miss is as good as a mile
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Post by Gassy on Feb 20, 2019 13:28:25 GMT
I agree with your corrected post. Of course JCH isn't a disgrace, but the 2nd penalty was tbf. As a professional footballer who plays as a striker, you have to at least hit the target. Anyway, it doesn't matter now, what's done is done. Onto Sunderland! That's not really how it works is it? What, expecting the a paid professional striker in a penalty to hit the target, that's not really how it works? How does it work?
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Post by GasAttacK on Feb 20, 2019 13:39:50 GMT
Good battling performance against a decent Pompey team that is admittedly a bit low on confidence. Pity we couldn't have got the 3 points we probably deserved. That was probably the worst penalty I've ever seen taken by a Rovers player. Has it come down yet? Decent performance by everyone, including JCH but I hope that's thne last penalty he takes for us. If he hits the bar or the keeper makes a great save then fair enough but to miss the goal by 71.3 miles must be a new record. Seen worse. In the 60's we had a pen at Eastville v Millwall , the last kick of the game & Alfie Biggs stepped up against Alex Stepney. It was a windy day but he sliced his kick & almost hit the corner flag. As Spiess1 alluded to, a miss is as good as a mile That was a little before my time. I've seen some poor penalties over the past 40 years but I think the one last night is probably the worst from a Rovers player that I can remember.
This isn't the first time is sent a penalty into orbit so I'd suggest he doesn't take another.
Anyon can miss a penalty it's true but I wouldn't have confidence in anyone that can miss by that much.
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Post by mjhgas on Feb 20, 2019 14:10:58 GMT
If it makes JCH feel any better, me and my mates still remember the excitement of Tony Sealy (ex-QPR) making his debut at Twerton. The excitement of seeing this once great striker lasted 5 minutes when he was clean through on the right of goal and hit the 4th advertising hoarding from the RHS post from 12 yards If JCH had the highest miss, the Tony Sealy was one of the widest from not far out! PS there are two types of penalties - the Rickie Lambert (never fails) and the worst of all - the Chris Waddle (circumstances, height again a problem!). JCH didn't look cool taking the second one - composure needed!!! Read Dr Stephen Peters book - "The Chimp Paradox" and he will tell you that JCH didn't miss the penalty - his Inner Chimp did!!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 14:15:16 GMT
Another massive opportunity missed IMO. They were there for the taking tonight and should have come away with 3 points. Nice positive post again false, keep it up ! That's my gut feeling on it Henbury. A fair few positives in performance to take no doubt but my big worry is that we're getting in the draw habit and not winning ugly. It's a very respectable result of course but it's another game gone by where the opportunity presented itself and we haven't taken it. Winning games is the only way we'll have L1 football next season.
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Post by BelieveItWhenIAmSatInIt on Feb 20, 2019 14:47:09 GMT
That's not really how it works is it? What, expecting the a paid professional striker in a penalty to hit the target, that's not really how it works? How does it work? You have a very simplistic view of things don't you?
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Post by lastminutewinner on Feb 20, 2019 14:54:13 GMT
Nice positive post again false, keep it up ! That's my gut feeling on it Henbury. A fair few positives in performance to take no doubt but my big worry is that we're getting in the draw habit and not winning ugly. It's a very respectable result of course but it's another game gone by where the opportunity presented itself and we haven't taken it. Winning games is the only way we'll have L1 football next season.
Bang on; draws are good if we win home games but we aren't.
Opportunity missed imo.
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Post by Gassy on Feb 20, 2019 14:56:03 GMT
What, expecting the a paid professional striker in a penalty to hit the target, that's not really how it works? How does it work? You have a very simplistic view of things don't you? No need to over think/look into things too much. I'm pretty sure we all have minimum expectations in our jobs. The minimum expectation of a professional striker is to hit the target in a penalty.
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Post by socrates on Feb 20, 2019 15:16:03 GMT
If it makes JCH feel any better, me and my mates still remember the excitement of Tony Sealy (ex-QPR) making his debut at Twerton. The excitement of seeing this once great striker lasted 5 minutes when he was clean through on the right of goal and hit the 4th advertising hoarding from the RHS post from 12 yards If JCH had the highest miss, the Tony Sealy was one of the widest from not far out! PS there are two types of penalties - the Rickie Lambert (never fails) and the worst of all - the Chris Waddle (circumstances, height again a problem!). JCH didn't look cool taking the second one - composure needed!!! Read Dr Stephen Peters book - "The Chimp Paradox" and he will tell you that JCH didn't miss the penalty - his Inner Chimp did!!! I’ve always thought hit it low and hard and it’ll find it’s own way in. You can’t hit it too low but you can hit it too high.
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Post by BelieveItWhenIAmSatInIt on Feb 20, 2019 15:48:34 GMT
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 20, 2019 16:02:33 GMT
Yeah, but if you speak spanish, you'd know that the commentator was saying, 'What a lady garden, that prick's a Dam disgrace.'
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