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Post by stuartcampbell on Mar 6, 2019 0:14:05 GMT
Been wondering about this for a while, since I think the guy is extremely talented. But I haven't really seen him being linked to many jobs as managers are sacked, I think the best odds were 12-1 for Luton. So my question is:
What level of team do you see realistically signing him?
What team do you think could do with him?
As a manager, how high do you think he will go?
For me, I think, given they are relegated, Bradford would be a great choice. A team which has the capacity to rapidly improve.
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Post by stuartcampbell on Mar 6, 2019 0:17:29 GMT
Currently 14/1 for the Rochdale job.
Sack race verdict:
Including success with Salisbury, Hurst has done some excellent things in management.
Not only did his Bristol Rovers side, in 2014-15, become the first team in the 21st century to go up from the National League a year after relegation, they then completed back-to-back promotions.
He inspired excellent form in midfielders like Ollie Clarke and Chris Lines; he would inherit a Dale squad with a potentially reasonable midfield with Stephen Dooley’s link play and Ethan Hamilton’s dynamism.
If Callum Camps can get closer to his circa 2016 form and the absence of a natural anchor man can be remedied when Oliver Rathbone gets back fit, then perhaps a Dale side led by Clarke could begin to impose themselves on more games.
Plus, Clarke is a very honest, candid and forthright manager, which means that he tends to connect with vocal, battle-hardened professionals – especially when he works with a group over a long period.
Why he shouldn’t
Where Clarke had trouble was with evolving the group that had won the Gasheads back-to-back promotions, when he and they moved higher up.
As that core began to break up, Clarke has either been found wanting in terms of recruitment (in which case one or two other people at Rovers are responsible for this), or his motivational methods has not worked quite as well with players based higher in the English football pyramid – possibly an element of both.
15 of Rochdale’s 19 signings in 2018-19 have come from players based at clubs in the top two divisions in English football – and presumably the club would look to develop their relationship with clubs like Liverpool and Manchester United for potential loan deals.
A large proportion of the above 15 players are likely to have been schooled in a relatively forgiving academy system and would need gentle encouragement to ease the transition into the senior game.
Quite whether Clarke can alter his style of man management to suit the needs of different players remains to be seen.
The Sack Race’s Verdict
On paper, Clarke is one of the best managers Rochdale could appoint – but if they were to commit to him beyond the end of the current campaign, they would need to do so with some acknowledgement of how that would impact their transfer policy.
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Post by mariobalotelli on Mar 6, 2019 5:13:23 GMT
"Including success with Salisbury, Hurst has done some excellent things in management"
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Post by Henbury Gas on Mar 6, 2019 6:15:10 GMT
National league would be a good fit for DC
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Post by Blueside on Mar 6, 2019 7:15:11 GMT
National league would be a good fit for DC I would tend to agree with this. Clubs with aspirations of promotion to league 2 probably couldn't find a better candidate. Joining a mid-table side, give him two seasons and he could be right up there. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 6, 2019 8:21:59 GMT
"On paper, Clarke is one of the best managers Rochdale could appoint – but if they were to commit to him beyond the end of the current campaign, they would need to do so with some acknowledgement of how that would impact their transfer policy."
Why would DC go to a club like Rochdale with zero potential, plus most likely stick another relegation on his CV this season.
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Post by gashead1981 on Mar 6, 2019 8:36:44 GMT
DC won't be appointed at any club until the summer unless they are guaranteed not to be relegated, have already been relegated and its a blank canvas, or its a club that is playing below their potential in a lower league.
I can't help but think he will end up at Yeovil, Swindon or possibly even Plymouth.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 8:39:48 GMT
Solskjaer hasn't been confirmed as Man United manager yet. Just saying?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 9:06:07 GMT
DC won't be appointed at any club until the summer unless they are guaranteed not to be relegated, have already been relegated and its a blank canvas, or its a club that is playing below their potential in a lower league. I can't help but think he will end up at Yeovil, Swindon or possibly even Plymouth. Agree with this and kids at school, why move your entire family for a career where you can be out of a job in 3 months. DC is a lower league Warnock, brilliant motivator and good with no money, give him money and this is where it goes wrong. Yeovil is the perfect fit for him, take Leads, Sincs, overated Wales international and a few others and take Yeovil to Div1. |
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Post by tomylil on Mar 6, 2019 9:11:06 GMT
National league would be a good fit for DC I like DC but agree with this provided it was a team that could challenge for promotion into the EFL. Perfect candidate. |
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Post by Henbury Gas on Mar 6, 2019 9:13:50 GMT
DC won't be appointed at any club until the summer unless they are guaranteed not to be relegated, have already been relegated and its a blank canvas, or its a club that is playing below their potential in a lower league. I can't help but think he will end up at Yeovil, Swindon or possibly even Plymouth. If we get relegated (god forbid), could he come back and do a job for us knowing the current situation with the facilities ? DC only started to go wrong when he employed every tom, dick and Harry around him |
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Post by pirate49 on Mar 6, 2019 9:31:07 GMT
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Post by neilv93 on Mar 6, 2019 9:35:44 GMT
DC won't be appointed at any club until the summer unless they are guaranteed not to be relegated, have already been relegated and its a blank canvas, or its a club that is playing below their potential in a lower league. I can't help but think he will end up at Yeovil, Swindon or possibly even Plymouth. Agree with this and kids at school, why move your entire family for a career where you can be out of a job in 3 months. DC is a lower league Warnock, brilliant motivator and good with no money, give him money and this is where it goes wrong. Yeovil is the perfect fit for him, take Leads, Sincs, overated Wales international and a few others and take Yeovil to Div1. Lol baffling. |
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Post by neilv93 on Mar 6, 2019 9:36:58 GMT
Strong connections at Hartlepool and proven track record in non-league... calling it now.
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Post by farmygas on Mar 6, 2019 10:08:13 GMT
Strong connections at Hartlepool and proven track record in non-league... calling it now. If he finally lost his rag with us for having no money then he's not gonna relish the challenge at Pool. |
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Post by syg on Mar 6, 2019 10:13:35 GMT
Pompey.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Mar 6, 2019 10:13:47 GMT
Strong connections at Hartlepool and proven track record in non-league... calling it now. If he finally lost his rag with us for having no money then he's not gonna relish the challenge at Pool. I think he would like to establish himself as a decent league manager. Istm he will look for a stable-ish League 1 club with a shout of the play-offs, or a League 2 club with potential. Going back to the conference would just be retreading old ground. |
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Mar 6, 2019 10:20:09 GMT
If he finally lost his rag with us for having no money then he's not gonna relish the challenge at Pool. I think he would like to establish himself as a decent league manager. Istm he will look for a stable-ish League 1 club with a shout of the play-offs, or a League 2 club with potential. Going back to the conference would just be retreading old ground. I agree. If he goes to the conference and fails then it would be very hard for him to rebuild his career. His stock is high enough to get a league 2 or league 1 club. |
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Post by pirate on Mar 6, 2019 10:30:39 GMT
I think Mansfield Town would be the perfect club for him, although with them in the L2 automatic promotion places I can't see them parting ways with Flitcroft any time soon.
DC is born and bred in Mansfield and started his career there making 160 appearances for the club. They have an ambitious owner in John Radford, a nice new training ground and a decent stadium with room for expansion.
Another club I think would be a decent fit is Crewe. They are underperforming, but continue to produce good young players from their Academy and have talented players in their squad. DC might be able to get the best out of them.
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Post by gashead1981 on Mar 6, 2019 10:37:18 GMT
He would probably go to the club in the conference like Notts County, like us a big fish in a small pond. But I doubt he would go to Hartlepool.
Ill maintain it'll be a club on the south coast or possibly, and ill throw this out there, an assistant manager job or U23 managers job at a premier league club like Southampton.
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