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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 9:27:06 GMT
I have found it frustrating that our younger strikers haven't been given more of a chance. We paid money for Kavanagh a couple of years ago after he scored lots of goals for Newports youth team. He has looked good in development games and scored goals for Hungerford in a relegation battle. Moore has looked decent every time I have seen him and he was in Peterboroughs first team a couple of years ago and didn't leave for footballing reasons. Some might say a relegation battle isn't the time to bring in youngsters however GC said post Doncaster Moore asked to come on when 4-0 nil down and Kavanagh has already played in a relegation battle in the Conference South this season. People will say the coaches will know when they are ready however I wonder if it has more to do with the coaches not being brave enough to drop senior pros for youngsters? Who’s going to create chances for them?
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Post by geddongas on Apr 23, 2019 9:39:14 GMT
I hate the Nichols bashing because he is not at all our worst performer in terms of all round game.
Having said that, he needs to be sold in Summer - alongside Reilly for me, and bring in a striker proven at this level or league 2.
The real issue for our attacking, in my opinion, is we have very uneven wingbacks. Down the right we have no pace at all and Leads just isn’t up to it (another one i’d ship off), down the left we have THD who is not as good defensively as he is going forward - so something needs to shift around here - THD should retrain as a LW. I rate Kelly but he isn’t as adventurous going forward and still a bit rough round the edges, so we’d need someone else in to cover there.
I think the lack of width and lack of creativity is by far our biggest flaw. How many times did we score from Browner or Bodin coming down the wing and looking for over/underlaps? Or cutting inside? A lot. We absolutely need our strong flanks back.
Also goes to show just how much we need Sercombe to perform, as he’s had a poor season and nobody else is up to it whatsoever. And don’t even get me started on the exclusion of Lines.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Apr 23, 2019 10:34:10 GMT
I sh!t you not, there are some Gas that still believe Nichols should be in the team and he'll come good one day.. Unbelievable. One of them is GC. We don't have anything better to work with JCH and how we play. Maybe there is a better way of doing it. Maybe some way of just playing with JCH up front, or with Jak or Reilly up there with him in some way, but we haven't found it despite looking. I don't think anyone is still saying he'll come good (in the sense that he'll start scoring goals for us) but I think it's a reasonable position to say that we haven't got anything better atm. I sh!t you not. What would you play that is better? My dead gran. Bless her. Seriously? Jak or Reilly. Or Rodders, and play Nichols in mid. Or....Moore. Why not give Deon a go? I thought Reilly was poor v Wombles, but at least he carved out a one on one chance. But, yea ...Jak or Reilly, at least they have scored this season!
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Post by baggins on Apr 23, 2019 10:39:00 GMT
I'm all for supporting a player on a bad run, give him benefit of the doubt and every other excuse you can possibly think of, but he's gotta go.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Apr 23, 2019 10:55:18 GMT
We don't have anything better to work with JCH and how we play. Maybe there is a better way of doing it. Maybe some way of just playing with JCH up front, or with Jak or Reilly up there with him in some way, but we haven't found it despite looking. I don't think anyone is still saying he'll come good (in the sense that he'll start scoring goals for us) but I think it's a reasonable position to say that we haven't got anything better atm. I sh!t you not. What would you play that is better? My dead gran. Bless her. Seriously? Jak or Reilly. Or Rodders, and play Nichols in mid. Or....Moore. Why not give Deon a go? I thought Reilly was poor v Wombles, but at least he carved out a one on one chance. But, yea ...Jak or Reilly, at least they have scored this season! Nichols starting with JCH: W4 D2 L2 Jak starting with JCH: W0 D1 L1 Reilly starting with JCH: W0 D2 L2
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Post by baggins on Apr 23, 2019 11:05:07 GMT
My dead gran. Bless her. Seriously? Jak or Reilly. Or Rodders, and play Nichols in mid. Or....Moore. Why not give Deon a go? I thought Reilly was poor v Wombles, but at least he carved out a one on one chance. But, yea ...Jak or Reilly, at least they have scored this season! Nichols starting with JCH: W4 D2 L2 Jak starting with JCH: W0 D1 L1 Reilly starting with JCH: W0 D2 L2 Nichols starting with anyone, scored 1. It's just not good enough.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Apr 23, 2019 11:06:07 GMT
Nichols starting with JCH: W4 D2 L2 Jak starting with JCH: W0 D1 L1 Reilly starting with JCH: W0 D2 L2 Nichols starting with anyone, scored 1. It's just not good enough. No one's saying he's a great goal scorer, we're talking about who to start alongside JCH this season.
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Post by baggins on Apr 23, 2019 11:13:42 GMT
Sorry, I was just looking at the thread title and your post.
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 23, 2019 11:19:54 GMT
My dead gran. Bless her. Seriously? Jak or Reilly. Or Rodders, and play Nichols in mid. Or....Moore. Why not give Deon a go? I thought Reilly was poor v Wombles, but at least he carved out a one on one chance. But, yea ...Jak or Reilly, at least they have scored this season! Nichols starting with JCH: W4 D2 L2 Jak starting with JCH: W0 D1 L1 Reilly starting with JCH: W0 D2 L2 Looking at those stats if we hadn't had Nichols we'd already be relegated, perhaps certain posters should cut him some slack!
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Post by mariobalotelli on Apr 23, 2019 11:23:31 GMT
As hard as it is to believe we have more goals in us when Tom is in the team as opposed to Jak or Reilly. His record is truly awful but at least hes a decent footballer and creates things for us. The other two may score every now and then but they're not as good in a general footballing term
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Post by baggins on Apr 23, 2019 11:44:37 GMT
Nichols starting with JCH: W4 D2 L2 Jak starting with JCH: W0 D1 L1 Reilly starting with JCH: W0 D2 L2 Looking at those stats if we hadn't had Nichols we'd already be relegated, perhaps certain posters should cut him some slack! Or, if he could actually do what we pay him for we'd be in the playoffs?
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Post by knowall on Apr 23, 2019 12:01:02 GMT
From the views on this thread, it appears to be obvious that we on the terraces and in the stands do not rate Nichols, and yet judging by the number of starts he makes the professionals whose job it is to select the eleven best players must think otherwise? A good question to ask at an AGM or a Q & A session (if we ever get either?) And where have those professionals got us to this season by picking him week in/week out? 4 points off the bottom. good point - but would it not be nice to have the opportunity to ask them? at an AGM or Q & A
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Apr 23, 2019 12:05:33 GMT
And where have those professionals got us to this season by picking him week in/week out? 4 points off the bottom. good point - but would it not be nice to have the opportunity to ask them? at an AGM or Q & A Would you trust any answers given at a Q&A?
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Post by rusho'gas on Apr 23, 2019 12:21:04 GMT
Realistically it cost God his job. I'm sure he's a decent bloke, seems a likeable lad and grounded but he isn't doing what it say's on the tin.
Strikers who can't finish aren't strikers, they are support workers............
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Apr 23, 2019 12:26:50 GMT
good point - but would it not be nice to have the opportunity to ask them? at an AGM or Q & A Would you trust any answers given at a Q&A? I wouldn't trust them to turn up if they arranged one!
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Post by pirate49 on Apr 23, 2019 12:34:22 GMT
Weird that in this day and age when everything is measured and monitored on the football pitch and there's performance data coming out of every orifice a striker whose main purpose is to score goals, but doesn't, continues to be selected!
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Post by toddy1953 on Apr 23, 2019 12:44:22 GMT
Would be interesting if some ‘statto’ could look at his goal scoring opportunities. My view is that he is a tidy footballer that, doesn’t get into enough goal scoring positions & the few time he does then his lack of confidence lets him down. I don’t know who the forwards coach is since Marcus left, but, apart from yesterday, it seems to have worked well with JCH but going forward we either need to to let him go or loan him out next season to L2.
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Post by lpgas on Apr 23, 2019 13:23:11 GMT
The "owners" gave Clarke 355k for Nichols: £185k for Payne: £125k for Rodman and GCH money for JCH and Ogogo. No you are right they don't give a f**k. So that's 665k or about 40% of the estimated 1.6 million we recieved for Taylor, Bodin and Harrison then. No you are right they really do care. Then of course we have signed all those players from Mensah to Ogogo. each want a signing on fee; each want a removals fee; each wants a deal; each wants a bonus ; each wants their tax paid; each wants insurance (very high), and then of course their Agents want a fee. then all the coaches, want wages, tax, then the people who work on the pitch, and the ground maintenance, the stewards, the kids on the pasty huts. the people who working the bars; the safety officer; the car park people; the kitchen staff ; the waiters and waitresses, the cleaners, and the POLICE, they all want paying. Then of course we need the ground to have a safety certificate, and the bars to have a licence. We need to abide by EFL rules, and pay them an annual fee. We need tax advisors and accountants. Then away we need hotels and coaches for travel for first team games. Lets not forget the other teams, they need travel and training too. Lets not forget the FOOD they eat and the kit, training kit, the website; the ticket printing; the shop and so on and so on . That's where the rest of the transfer fee goes, if you want to know, and before you ask and regular 8,000 gate pays about HALF of our costs
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Post by lpgas on Apr 23, 2019 13:31:18 GMT
I'm all for supporting a player on a bad run, give him benefit of the doubt and every other excuse you can possibly think of, but he's gotta go. the point is, how long is a bad run? In Nichols case it is nearly 2 seasons
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 13:38:37 GMT
Weird that in this day and age when everything is measured and monitored on the football pitch and there's performance data coming out of every orifice a striker whose main purpose is to score goals, but doesn't, continues to be selected! The only important stat is the score after 90 minutes. If TN starting gives a better % of wins then he should continue to start - at least until someone better comes in. neither Jak or Reilly are the answer. Perhaps Moore will be in the future - would love him to spend the season getting into the shape of his life ready to hit the ground running in preseason. I'm pretty sure there is a privately run "pre pre-season" for pro footballers operating within Bristol. Mainly players coming back from long term injuries or free agents etc but someone like Moore could also benefit.
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