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Post by gashead1981 on May 6, 2019 19:48:58 GMT
Jaggas.
Roadhouse. That’s a permaban.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2019 19:55:51 GMT
Jaggas. Roadhouse. That’s a permaban. Why? |
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Post by gashead1981 on May 6, 2019 20:28:58 GMT
Jaggas. Roadhouse. That’s a permaban. Why? His constant insistence that Somalis or Muslims are a problematic race or culture together with his sympathising of Tommy Robinson. Joint mod decision before it gets out of hand. Again. He can’t help himself. He’s only here to cause trouble. |
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Post by aghast on May 6, 2019 21:29:19 GMT
I'm not totally happy about the decision to ban the extremist for comments made on an unmoderated section of the forum.
I believe in free speech in most, but not all, circumstances.
I think this tiny section of ours in the vast world of social media can, or should be able to, tolerate what he says unless it is clearly open to litigation.
But if he's gone, I won't lose any sleep over it, because he is unable to argue his points in any way other than being confrontational, aggressive, and just plainly nasty.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2019 21:50:35 GMT
I'm not totally happy about the decision to ban the extremist for comments made on an unmoderated section of the forum. I believe in free speech in most, but not all, circumstances. I think this tiny section of ours in the vast world of social media can, or should be able to, tolerate what he says unless it is clearly open to litigation. But if he's gone, I won't lose any sleep over it, because he is unable to argue his points in any way other than being confrontational, aggressive, and just plainly nasty. Agree with most of that. If your final paragraph plays a part in his ban I hope the same set of rules apply whichever side of the political fence a poster comes from. |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on May 7, 2019 4:59:31 GMT
For what it's worth I used to have a similar opinion to Aghast but more recently have taken the view that that particular poster simply had an agenda to peddle.
There was literally no other contribution made to the forum on any other subjects.
It's at that point the free speech argument becomes somewhat more flimsy.
This is after all a football forum with an area for other stuff tacked on.
Jaggas has literally NEVER in the history of Gaschat ever commented on Bristol Rovers.
I'm sure he will find a far more suitable platform to air his thoughts elsewhere.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2019 7:04:47 GMT
His constant insistence that Somalis or Muslims are a problematic race or culture together with his sympathising of Tommy Robinson. Joint mod decision before it gets out of hand. Again. He can’t help himself. He’s only here to cause trouble. Islam is a problem and to deny that is wrong. Is there anything wrong with sympathising with Tommy Robinson? He is not my cup of tea, but isn't he just the other side of the coin to many in Labour? The Labour anti-Jewish stance is acceptable is it, yet nobody is allowed to criticize Islam? Agreeing with Tommy Robinson is not illegal. What next, rounding up those who listen to Islamic hate preachers in Mosques? |
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Post by newmarketgas on May 7, 2019 7:05:24 GMT
Welcome to Tom Watsons Gas Chat.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on May 7, 2019 7:59:59 GMT
His constant insistence that Somalis or Muslims are a problematic race or culture together with his sympathising of Tommy Robinson. Joint mod decision before it gets out of hand. Again. He can’t help himself. He’s only here to cause trouble. Islam is a problem and to deny that is wrong. Is there anything wrong with sympathising with Tommy Robinson? He is not my cup of tea, but isn't he just the other side of the coin to many in Labour? The Labour anti-Jewish stance is acceptable is it, yet nobody is allowed to criticize Islam? Agreeing with Tommy Robinson is not illegal. What next, rounding up those who listen to Islamic hate preachers in Mosques? This has been explained over and over again. Lots of decent and respectful arguments can be made to defend or condemn pretty much anything. Jaggas has consistently and persistently failed to do that. If someone came on here and posted Islamic hate speech then yes, they would also be banned. |
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Post by William Wilson on May 7, 2019 8:10:56 GMT
His constant insistence that Somalis or Muslims are a problematic race or culture together with his sympathising of Tommy Robinson. Joint mod decision before it gets out of hand. Again. He can’t help himself. He’s only here to cause trouble. Islam is a problem and to deny that is wrong. Is there anything wrong with sympathising with Tommy Robinson? He is not my cup of tea, but isn't he just the other side of the coin to many in Labour? The Labour anti-Jewish stance is acceptable is it, yet nobody is allowed to criticize Islam? Agreeing with Tommy Robinson is not illegal. What next, rounding up those who listen to Islamic hate preachers in Mosques? Agree absolutely. Banning Jaggas for what he said, is wrong.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2019 8:36:29 GMT
Islam is a problem and to deny that is wrong. Is there anything wrong with sympathising with Tommy Robinson? He is not my cup of tea, but isn't he just the other side of the coin to many in Labour? The Labour anti-Jewish stance is acceptable is it, yet nobody is allowed to criticize Islam? Agreeing with Tommy Robinson is not illegal. What next, rounding up those who listen to Islamic hate preachers in Mosques? oi hold on who is being anti Jewish? He kept criticising me for that but I've never said a single anti Jewish thing in my life. In my opinion the bloke is an absolute log and we are better off without his hate speech about Somalis being the 'scum of Africa' and suchlike. Bloke is a thinly veiled fascist good riddance. I never said you did Officer. I pointed out that the Labour Party are anti-Jewish yet it seems as though they can get away with it......as for the 'scum of Africa' I have to agree with you as Jaggas has obviously never been to Sudan. I have. |
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Post by Officer Barbrady on May 7, 2019 8:38:10 GMT
oi hold on who is being anti Jewish? He kept criticising me for that but I've never said a single anti Jewish thing in my life. In my opinion the bloke is an absolute log and we are better off without his hate speech about Somalis being the 'scum of Africa' and suchlike. Bloke is a thinly veiled fascist good riddance. I never said you did Officer. I pointed out that the Labour Party are anti-Jewish yet it seems as though they can get away with it......as for the 'scum of Africa' I have to agree with you as Jaggas has obviously never been to Sudan. I have. my apologies I since reread it and have deleted. |
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Post by South Stand Ultra on May 7, 2019 9:27:02 GMT
His constant insistence that Somalis or Muslims are a problematic race or culture together with his sympathising of Tommy Robinson. Joint mod decision before it gets out of hand. Again. He can’t help himself. He’s only here to cause trouble.
So part of the reason why he got a permaban is because of him sympathising with Tommy Robinson? 
Out of order if you ask me.
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Post by South Stand Ultra on May 7, 2019 9:29:52 GMT
I thought this part of the forum is unmoderated?
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Post by Hugo the Elder on May 7, 2019 10:08:29 GMT
I thought this part of the forum is unmoderated? Yeah, by and large it always has been unmoderated and I believe it will remain that way, there are still things that every now and then will cross a line that means action may be necessary. I think in the 4 or 5 years since we set this place up only 4 posts have ever been acted on in General Chat and 2 of them were by the same poster! |
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Post by baggins on May 7, 2019 11:14:11 GMT
I thought this part of the forum is unmoderated? That's a very dangerous expectation. |
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Post by gashead1981 on May 7, 2019 12:30:16 GMT
His constant insistence that Somalis or Muslims are a problematic race or culture together with his sympathising of Tommy Robinson. Joint mod decision before it gets out of hand. Again. He can’t help himself. He’s only here to cause trouble. Islam is a problem and to deny that is wrong. Is there anything wrong with sympathising with Tommy Robinson? He is not my cup of tea, but isn't he just the other side of the coin to many in Labour? The Labour anti-Jewish stance is acceptable is it, yet nobody is allowed to criticize Islam? Agreeing with Tommy Robinson is not illegal. What next, rounding up those who listen to Islamic hate preachers in Mosques? Islam is not a problem, it is a faith that promotes peace by and large. However, extremism based on the Islam faith is a problem. They are 2 totally different things. Christianity is a peaceful faith too. And yet there have been extremist views of that down through the centuries up to and including the 21st. I could never side with the labour party when it was the party of choice under Blair, I certainly couldn't find anything Corbyn promotes as acceptable either especially his anti-semitic stance. Agreeing with TR isn't illegal of course. But using it to cause problems here was something the mod team weren't prepared to carry on with. Not only that his defensive, aggressive and nasty way of debating points was not conducive to how we all speak to one another here. I didn't push the button alone. At least 4 mods discussed and agreed with the decision. It's not going to be reversed, so move on without him. As you were. |
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Post by newmarketgas on May 7, 2019 13:01:59 GMT
Islam is a problem and to deny that is wrong. Is there anything wrong with sympathising with Tommy Robinson? He is not my cup of tea, but isn't he just the other side of the coin to many in Labour? The Labour anti-Jewish stance is acceptable is it, yet nobody is allowed to criticize Islam? Agreeing with Tommy Robinson is not illegal. What next, rounding up those who listen to Islamic hate preachers in Mosques? . However, extremism based on the Islam faith is a problem. They are 2 totally different things. Christianity is a peaceful faith too. And yet there have been extremist views of that down through the centuries up to and including the 21st. I could never side with the labour party when it was the party of choice under Blair, I certainly couldn't find anything Corbyn promotes as acceptable either especially his anti-semitic stance. Agreeing with TR isn't illegal of course. But using it to cause problems here was something the mod team weren't prepared to carry on with. Not only that his defensive, aggressive and nasty way of debating points was not conducive to how we all speak to one another here. I didn't push the button alone. At least 4 mods discussed and agreed with the decision. It's not going to be reversed, so move on without him. As you were. That is a crazy thought, Islam promotes ruling the World and converting all to Islam, now if you think that is peaceful then good luck to you. Christians, many many years ago tried the same thing, they soon saw how crazy it was and by and large stopped it, These people are living in the stone age, cutting off heads and stoning went out of fashion years ago, these people want to bring this happy activity to us all. In times of War we send out the soldiers and back them from a distance because we don't want to do the dirty work, this is the same as your average Muslim, they don't want to do the dirty work but are happy to support the soldiers . |
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Post by gashead1981 on May 7, 2019 16:42:25 GMT
Islam is not a problem, it is a faith that promotes peace by and large. However, extremism based on the Islam faith is a problem. They are 2 totally different things. Christianity is a peaceful faith too. And yet there have been extremist views of that down through the centuries up to and including the 21st. I could never side with the labour party when it was the party of choice under Blair, I certainly couldn't find anything Corbyn promotes as acceptable either especially his anti-semitic stance. Agreeing with TR isn't illegal of course. But using it to cause problems here was something the mod team weren't prepared to carry on with. Not only that his defensive, aggressive and nasty way of debating points was not conducive to how we all speak to one another here. I didn't push the button alone. At least 4 mods discussed and agreed with the decision. It's not going to be reversed, so move on without him. As you were. That is a crazy thought, Islam promotes ruling the World and converting all to Islam, now if you think that is peaceful then good luck to you. Christians, many many years ago tried the same thing, they soon saw how crazy it was and by and large stopped it, These people are living in the stone age, cutting off heads and stoning went out of fashion years ago, these people want to bring this happy activity to us all.In times of War we send out the soldiers and back them from a distance because we don't want to do the dirty work, this is the same as your average Muslim, they don't want to do the dirty work but are happy to support the soldiers . I don't know any good natured practicing muslim that would advocate or interpret the Sharia law that way. That is a stereo typical comment in itself based on what you see from extremist, terrorist advocation of jihad, what it means and how it should be carried out. |
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Post by newmarketgas on May 7, 2019 17:25:28 GMT
That is a crazy thought, Islam promotes ruling the World and converting all to Islam, now if you think that is peaceful then good luck to you. Christians, many many years ago tried the same thing, they soon saw how crazy it was and by and large stopped it, These people are living in the stone age, cutting off heads and stoning went out of fashion years ago, these people want to bring this happy activity to us all.In times of War we send out the soldiers and back them from a distance because we don't want to do the dirty work, this is the same as your average Muslim, they don't want to do the dirty work but are happy to support the soldiers . I don't know any good natured practicing muslim that would advocate or interpret the Sharia law that way. That is a stereo typical comment in itself based on what you see from extremist, terrorist advocation of jihad, what it means and how it should be carried out. Thank you for YOUR opinion, good luck and take care.  |
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