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Post by Gas Go Marching In on May 25, 2019 16:44:11 GMT
DC at Wembley.
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Post by Topper Gas on May 25, 2019 17:10:21 GMT
Div 2 play off final, I guess he's found his level? |
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Post by Topper Gas on May 25, 2019 17:18:31 GMT
DC did wonders for our football club. And people quite rightly will keep him in high regard. I will probably try and make a Walsall game at some point next season and wish him all the best at Walsall, hope he does well. He did work wonders for this club but also left us in a situation where this summer we heading for a situation at the Fans Day where Stefan Payne, Mensah, Bennett and Nichols would be walking around having pictures with fans whilst starting in DIVISION 2 in two weeks time. The budget is a myth, we have a mid table budget, against Doncaster we were not mid table or playing like a side like this losing 4-0. There is over £600k on players named with those 4 above and some massive wages which would have really hurt us in Div2. A bloke comes in and saves a sinking ship, he’s not liked Gavin. The club is hammered for everything off the pitch but DC walks away scot free from where he left us in my first paragraph and where he nearly left us. Roady we were equally as bad, if not worse, at Doncaster under GC. I sense Doncaster just know how to beat us. |
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2019 17:37:25 GMT
Topper I thought GC tactics v Donny were awful, he lost us the game. You watch the first game though, we could have lost 6 or 7 at home.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2019 18:07:45 GMT
DC did wonders for our football club. And people quite rightly will keep him in high regard. I will probably try and make a Walsall game at some point next season and wish him all the best at Walsall, hope he does well. He did work wonders for this club but also left us in a situation where this summer we heading for a situation at the Fans Day where Stefan Payne, Mensah, Bennett and Nichols would be walking around having pictures with fans whilst starting in DIVISION 2 in two weeks time. The budget is a myth, we have a mid table budget, against Doncaster we were not mid table or playing like a side like this losing 4-0. There is over £600k on players named with those 4 above and some massive wages which would have really hurt us in Div2. A bloke comes in and saves a sinking ship, he’s not liked Gavin. The club is hammered for everything off the pitch but DC walks away scot free from where he left us in my first paragraph and where he nearly left us. I think the myth that really needs busting is the one that says we would have gone down had DC stayed. As I recall it, we were four points from safety when he went and we ended up four points clear from the drop. That says to me that Graham Coughlan did a good job in keeping us up, but in no way was it a miracle or a rescue from a hopeless position. Wimbledon stayed up from a position much worse than ours. We may have gone down, we may not have done. With over half a season to go it was in the balance, as it was until around the 44 game mark. So let's forget that myth. Let's also get over this DC v GC nonsense though. We have probably all seen good managers and bad managers in our times supporting Rovers. Darrell Clarke clearly deserves to be in the same bracket as the likes of Tann, Megson, Francis, Holloway and Trollope and is arguably near the top of that select group. I really hope that Graham Coughlan joins him in that list but of course it's far too early to say if he will do that, or if he will join the list of poor ones. So far, he's done well and succeeded in the job he was given. If he can develop a more pleasing style of football and comfortably keep us in this division, he has every chance of being fondly remembered when he eventually leaves. Just as Darrell Clarke and others are today. |
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Post by warehamgas on May 25, 2019 18:35:14 GMT
Good post 1970. True and let’s move on and be grateful to all those managers who’ve played a part in our success.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2019 18:51:36 GMT
He did work wonders for this club but also left us in a situation where this summer we heading for a situation at the Fans Day where Stefan Payne, Mensah, Bennett and Nichols would be walking around having pictures with fans whilst starting in DIVISION 2 in two weeks time. The budget is a myth, we have a mid table budget, against Doncaster we were not mid table or playing like a side like this losing 4-0. There is over £600k on players named with those 4 above and some massive wages which would have really hurt us in Div2. A bloke comes in and saves a sinking ship, he’s not liked Gavin. The club is hammered for everything off the pitch but DC walks away scot free from where he left us in my first paragraph and where he nearly left us. I think the myth that really needs busting is the one that says we would have gone down had DC stayed. As I recall it, we were four points from safety when he went and we ended up four points clear from the drop. That says to me that Graham Coughlan did a good job in keeping us up, but in no way was it a miracle or a rescue from a hopeless position. Wimbledon stayed up from a position much worse than ours. We may have gone down, we may not have done. With over half a season to go it was in the balance, as it was until around the 44 game mark. So let's forget that myth. Let's also get over this DC v GC nonsense though. We have probably all seen good managers and bad managers in our times supporting Rovers. Darrell Clarke clearly deserves to be in the same bracket as the likes of Tann, Megson, Francis, Holloway and Trollope and is arguably near the top of that select group. I really hope that Graham Coughlan joins him in that list but of course it's far too early to say if he will do that, or if he will join the list of poor ones. So far, he's done well and succeeded in the job he was given. If he can develop a more pleasing style of football and comfortably keep us in this division, he has every chance of being fondly remembered when he eventually leaves. Just as Darrell Clarke and others are today. What success did Holloway have to warrant being in the same group as the managers had achieved promotion for us? Playing wise absolute legend but as a manager I don’t agree |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on May 25, 2019 19:04:40 GMT
I think the myth that really needs busting is the one that says we would have gone down had DC stayed. As I recall it, we were four points from safety when he went and we ended up four points clear from the drop. That says to me that Graham Coughlan did a good job in keeping us up, but in no way was it a miracle or a rescue from a hopeless position. Wimbledon stayed up from a position much worse than ours. We may have gone down, we may not have done. With over half a season to go it was in the balance, as it was until around the 44 game mark. So let's forget that myth. Let's also get over this DC v GC nonsense though. We have probably all seen good managers and bad managers in our times supporting Rovers. Darrell Clarke clearly deserves to be in the same bracket as the likes of Tann, Megson, Francis, Holloway and Trollope and is arguably near the top of that select group. I really hope that Graham Coughlan joins him in that list but of course it's far too early to say if he will do that, or if he will join the list of poor ones. So far, he's done well and succeeded in the job he was given. If he can develop a more pleasing style of football and comfortably keep us in this division, he has every chance of being fondly remembered when he eventually leaves. Just as Darrell Clarke and others are today. What success did Holloway have to warrant being in the same group as the managers had achieved promotion for us? Playing wise absolute legend but as a manager I don’t agree Yeah, to be fair, he did slightly worse than John Ward. |
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2019 20:21:09 GMT
Gashead1970 considering we stayed up by only 4 points and under DC we lost 7 out of 10 games, I don’t think it’s a myth to say we would have gone down unless Cogs took over and used his relationship to get Jonson Clarke Harris.
As for Holloway someone mentioned, I’m not sure many give him legend status as a manager. Although personally his sides were the most exciting and played some of the best football I’ve ever seen as a fan of us. He’s tarnished with relegation because Dunford gave a pub team manager the job, that side should never have gone down with Ellington and many others. But Holloway for me is a legend as a player for us and also be a fan of us.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2019 21:01:57 GMT
I think the myth that really needs busting is the one that says we would have gone down had DC stayed. As I recall it, we were four points from safety when he went and we ended up four points clear from the drop. That says to me that Graham Coughlan did a good job in keeping us up, but in no way was it a miracle or a rescue from a hopeless position. Wimbledon stayed up from a position much worse than ours. We may have gone down, we may not have done. With over half a season to go it was in the balance, as it was until around the 44 game mark. So let's forget that myth. Let's also get over this DC v GC nonsense though. We have probably all seen good managers and bad managers in our times supporting Rovers. Darrell Clarke clearly deserves to be in the same bracket as the likes of Tann, Megson, Francis, Holloway and Trollope and is arguably near the top of that select group. I really hope that Graham Coughlan joins him in that list but of course it's far too early to say if he will do that, or if he will join the list of poor ones. So far, he's done well and succeeded in the job he was given. If he can develop a more pleasing style of football and comfortably keep us in this division, he has every chance of being fondly remembered when he eventually leaves. Just as Darrell Clarke and others are today. What success did Holloway have to warrant being in the same group as the managers had achieved promotion for us? Playing wise absolute legend but as a manager I don’t agree Fair enough. I think in terms of the quality of football he brought. I've said elsewhere that I think his side was the best to watch that I remember. I take your point that he didn't win anything, but I think being a Rovers fan, I don't necessarily expect that. Entertaining football counts too. |
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2019 21:20:00 GMT
What success did Holloway have to warrant being in the same group as the managers had achieved promotion for us? Playing wise absolute legend but as a manager I don’t agree Fair enough. I think in terms of the quality of football he brought. I've said elsewhere that I think his side was the best to watch that I remember. I take your point that he didn't win anything, but I think being a Rovers fan, I don't necessarily expect that. Entertaining football counts too. A fair point and his football was good and he bought probably the most technically gifted player I’ve ever seen in a rovers shirt to the club (Latvian). Can’t help but think we bottled it big time twice under his stewardship sadly |
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Post by aghast on May 25, 2019 22:27:34 GMT
What success did Holloway have to warrant being in the same group as the managers had achieved promotion for us? Playing wise absolute legend but as a manager I don’t agree Yeah, to be fair, he did slightly worse than John Ward. Don't start boring us with the facts. This is a football forum and reality shifts like a quantum particle. To be fair, the 1999/2000 season was fantastic until it all went so wrong. Possibly the best I've ever seen us play, although I have to admit I only saw about 10 games, and none of the shockers at the end. |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2019 7:34:00 GMT
Fair enough. I think in terms of the quality of football he brought. I've said elsewhere that I think his side was the best to watch that I remember. I take your point that he didn't win anything, but I think being a Rovers fan, I don't necessarily expect that. Entertaining football counts too. A fair point and his football was good and he bought probably the most technically gifted player I’ve ever seen in a rovers shirt to the club (Latvian). Can’t help but think we bottled it big time twice under his stewardship sadly Yes, what a player. What might (and should) have been with that team. |
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Post by Jomo on May 26, 2019 8:45:55 GMT
A fair point and his football was good and he bought probably the most technically gifted player I’ve ever seen in a rovers shirt to the club (Latvian). Can’t help but think we bottled it big time twice under his stewardship sadly Yes, what a player. What might (and should) have been with that team. Staggering how much quality we had in that team/squad, but we were also unfortunate to be up against some other top top sides in the context of Divsion Two/League 1. Preston, Burnley, Wigan, Stoke, Gillingham and Millwall all had excellent sides then, with the lacks of Macken, Thorne, Payton, Harris, Cahill to contend with. Nevertheless we should have been promoted. Was a real gut-wrencher those final 10 games! |
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