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Jun 12, 2019 5:34:53 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2019 5:34:53 GMT
So, you support making over 75's pay the BBC Tax? The BBC consulted 190,000 people. 48% were against the proposal, 37% were for the proposal and 15% preferred to reform the way the BBC was funded. The BBC, conveniently, interpreted this as 52% in favour of the plan. Is there no 'compromise' for the 48%? No compromise for the 48%? Lmfao. You lost. That's democracy. Get over it, if the other side had won they would have just accepted it and moved on ...etc. Trololol Genuine question, is this going to be means tested? Ha ha. To your last point, the means test hinted at is if a pensioner is in receipt of pension credit. |
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Jun 12, 2019 5:53:34 GMT
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jun 12, 2019 5:53:34 GMT
So they only pay if they can afford it?
Seems fair enough to me.
They should be doing the same with the winter fuel allowance.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2019 6:37:33 GMT
So, you support making over 75's pay the BBC Tax? The BBC consulted 190,000 people. 48% were against the proposal, 37% were for the proposal and 15% preferred to reform the way the BBC was funded. The BBC, conveniently, interpreted this as 52% in favour of the plan. Is there no 'compromise' for the 48%? No compromise for the 48%? Lmfao. You lost. That's democracy. Get over it, if the other side had won they would have just accepted it and moved on ...etc. Trololol Genuine question, is this going to be means tested? Apparently, yes. |
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Jun 12, 2019 6:41:07 GMT
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jun 12, 2019 6:41:07 GMT
No compromise for the 48%? Lmfao. You lost. That's democracy. Get over it, if the other side had won they would have just accepted it and moved on ...etc. Trololol Genuine question, is this going to be means tested? Apparently, yes. Then what's the problem? People that can afford it pay it, the others won't. Isn't that fair? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2019 7:23:24 GMT
Then what's the problem? People that can afford it pay it, the others won't. Isn't that fair? First off, why should an over 75 year old be 'means tested' to see if they can pay the BBC Tax? Can't we treat our old people with some dignity? The only pensioners who qualify for the Free Tax are those receiving 'Pension Credit'. Some pensioners were able to work in the city for a 'rip roaring 25 years' so therefore get a decent pension. Not all were so lucky. The real story is that it is the younger generation who are not paying the BBC Tax. They are internet savvy enough to not have to pay it. In the last three years millions have stopped paying the BBC Tax as they find alternative ways to view tv. There is now Amazon Prime, Netflix etc. On Demand Viewing is the new way. The BBC Model is now outdated. To make up for this loss in revenue, instead of looking at how they must change, the BBC have opted to hit the easiest target, the old people. |
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Jun 12, 2019 7:45:12 GMT
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jun 12, 2019 7:45:12 GMT
Then what's the problem? People that can afford it pay it, the others won't. Isn't that fair? First off, why should an over 75 year old be 'means tested' to see if they can pay the BBC Tax? Can't we treat our old people with some dignity? The only pensioners who qualify for the Free Tax are those receiving 'Pension Credit'. Some pensioners were able to work in the city for a 'rip roaring 25 years' so therefore get a decent pension. Not all were so lucky. The real story is that it is the younger generation who are not paying the BBC Tax. They are internet savvy enough to not have to pay it. In the last three years millions have stopped paying the BBC Tax as they find alternative ways to view tv. There is now Amazon Prime, Netflix etc. On Demand Viewing is the new way. The BBC Model is now outdated. To make up for this loss in revenue, instead of looking at how they must change, the BBC have opted to hit the easiest target, the old people. The way the BBC is funded is a problem and I agree it should probably become a subscription service but as it stands it is currently necessary for everyone to buy a license. So everyone should therefore buy one. I'm not bothered what age someone is in these enlightened times of age discrimination laws. |
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Jun 12, 2019 8:00:40 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2019 8:00:40 GMT
First off, why should an over 75 year old be 'means tested' to see if they can pay the BBC Tax? Can't we treat our old people with some dignity? The only pensioners who qualify for the Free Tax are those receiving 'Pension Credit'. Some pensioners were able to work in the city for a 'rip roaring 25 years' so therefore get a decent pension. Not all were so lucky. The real story is that it is the younger generation who are not paying the BBC Tax. They are internet savvy enough to not have to pay it. In the last three years millions have stopped paying the BBC Tax as they find alternative ways to view tv. There is now Amazon Prime, Netflix etc. On Demand Viewing is the new way. The BBC Model is now outdated. To make up for this loss in revenue, instead of looking at how they must change, the BBC have opted to hit the easiest target, the old people. The way the BBC is funded is a problem and I agree it should probably become a subscription service but as it stands it is currently necessary for everyone to buy a license. So everyone should therefore buy one. I'm not bothered what age someone is in these enlightened times of age discrimination laws. Also this emotive response by people like Nobby hides a hard truth. As stated previously when this concession was introduced it was funded by the general taxpayer (rightly or wtongly). It is under austerity that the funding for this concession was withdrawn, forcing it back on the BBC. Now it is the same people getting emotive about this, that advocates (or supported) the austerity policies invoked by Osborne. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2019 9:02:34 GMT
First off, why should an over 75 year old be 'means tested' to see if they can pay the BBC Tax? Can't we treat our old people with some dignity? The only pensioners who qualify for the Free Tax are those receiving 'Pension Credit'. Some pensioners were able to work in the city for a 'rip roaring 25 years' so therefore get a decent pension. Not all were so lucky. The real story is that it is the younger generation who are not paying the BBC Tax. They are internet savvy enough to not have to pay it. In the last three years millions have stopped paying the BBC Tax as they find alternative ways to view tv. There is now Amazon Prime, Netflix etc. On Demand Viewing is the new way. The BBC Model is now outdated. To make up for this loss in revenue, instead of looking at how they must change, the BBC have opted to hit the easiest target, the old people. The way the BBC is funded is a problem and I agree it should probably become a subscription service but as it stands it is currently necessary for everyone to buy a license. So everyone should therefore buy one. I'm not bothered what age someone is in these enlightened times of age discrimination laws. No you are wrong. It is not necessary for everyone to have a licence. It's a bit confusing, but try this... "If you watch or record shows as they're being shown on telly in the UK ('live TV'), you need to be covered by a TV licence. You also need one if you use BBC iPlayer. What many may not realise is that this is the case regardless of the device you're watching on – according to research published by TV Licensing, over 31% of students don't know watching live TV on a mobile phone requires a licence (though in most cases you don't need two if you already have one). So whether you're watching live TV on a television, computer, tablet, games console, smartphone or any other device, you'll need to pay the fee. However you do not need a TV licence if you only watch content after it's been shown on television – UNLESS it's on BBC iPlayer. TV programmes downloaded or streamed after broadcast on other catch-up services are fine without one though."So, if you start to watch Corrie Street two minutes before it ends (normal transmission), you need a licence. If you start to watch it two minutes after it has ended, via catch-up, then you don't need a licence. As for computers, Tablets, Phones, games consoles etc, just who is going to catch you watching television on any of these? As I've already said, it's the younger, tech savvy people who have stopped paying the BBC Tax. It's a fast changing world, and the BBC are stuck in the past. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2019 9:25:56 GMT
I'm not sure adverts on the BBC would work. Does anyone actually sit through the ad breaks any more? I watch only recorded programmes and fast forward through the ads. The BBC needs a subscription. Which is what they have now, and a really cheap one for the quality of television programmes they produce. I would reluctantly agree that it shouldn't be compulsory, but if it stayed at the same level and was voluntary, I don't think the Beeb would suffer much. I can't imagine choosing any TV package which didn't include all the BBC TV and radio channels for less than £13 a month. Should be subscription only and scaled right back to just news, documentaries and public information. There are plenty of other channels making entertainment and lifestyle programmes, the BBC is not required for the likes of Escape to the Country or Eastenders. im ok for them to provide sport, I believe a few are protected to free to air such as World Cup and Olympics but anything more should be limited to highlights rather than expensive exclusive rights stuff. |
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Jun 12, 2019 15:53:05 GMT
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Post by aghast on Jun 12, 2019 15:53:05 GMT
I'm not sure adverts on the BBC would work. Does anyone actually sit through the ad breaks any more? I watch only recorded programmes and fast forward through the ads. The BBC needs a subscription. Which is what they have now, and a really cheap one for the quality of television programmes they produce. I would reluctantly agree that it shouldn't be compulsory, but if it stayed at the same level and was voluntary, I don't think the Beeb would suffer much. I can't imagine choosing any TV package which didn't include all the BBC TV and radio channels for less than £13 a month. Should be subscription only and scaled right back to just news, documentaries and public information. There are plenty of other channels making entertainment and lifestyle programmes, the BBC is not required for the likes of Escape to the Country or Eastenders. im ok for them to provide sport, I believe a few are protected to free to air such as World Cup and Olympics but anything more should be limited to highlights rather than expensive exclusive rights stuff. Noooo! I watch EastEnders. It's my guilty pleasure. Get outta my forum, you slaag.... |
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Post by William Wilson on Jun 12, 2019 17:25:38 GMT
Should be subscription only and scaled right back to just news, documentaries and public information. There are plenty of other channels making entertainment and lifestyle programmes, the BBC is not required for the likes of Escape to the Country or Eastenders. im ok for them to provide sport, I believe a few are protected to free to air such as World Cup and Olympics but anything more should be limited to highlights rather than expensive exclusive rights stuff. Noooo! I watch EastEnders. It's my guilty pleasure. Get outta my forum, you slaag.... Nobby`s in big trouble, over something that his wife caught him watching when he thought he was alone in the house. I don`t know what her problem is really.
Stalingrad was such a long time ago.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2019 19:56:49 GMT
Should be subscription only and scaled right back to just news, documentaries and public information. There are plenty of other channels making entertainment and lifestyle programmes, the BBC is not required for the likes of Escape to the Country or Eastenders. im ok for them to provide sport, I believe a few are protected to free to air such as World Cup and Olympics but anything more should be limited to highlights rather than expensive exclusive rights stuff. Noooo! I watch EastEnders. It's my guilty pleasure. Get outta my forum, you slaag.... When I last watched Dr Legg had just qualified to practice. Is he still there? |
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Jun 12, 2019 21:11:19 GMT
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Jun 13, 2019 2:12:40 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2019 2:12:40 GMT
To quote "But this is really the Government’s doing: they pushed the scheme onto the BBC without asking any of us what we think or providing the funding to sustain it. Together, we must demand the Government takes back responsibility for funding free TV licences for everyone over 75." Austerity bites. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2019 7:15:59 GMT
Noooo! I watch EastEnders. It's my guilty pleasure. Get outta my forum, you slaag.... When I last watched Dr Legg had just qualified to practice. Is he still there? You guys are now way out of my knowledge zone. |
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Jun 13, 2019 17:14:01 GMT
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Post by baggins on Jun 13, 2019 17:14:01 GMT
Noooo! I watch EastEnders. It's my guilty pleasure. Get outta my forum, you slaag.... When I last watched Dr Legg had just qualified to practice. Is he still there? No. Cutbacks. |
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Jun 13, 2019 17:19:46 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2019 17:19:46 GMT
When I last watched Dr Legg had just qualified to practice. Is he still there? No. Cutbacks. 🤣🤣🤣 |
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Jun 14, 2019 17:45:07 GMT
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Post by South Stand Ultra on Jun 14, 2019 17:45:07 GMT
Sigh Income distribution and allocation of national resources. Just what has 'income distribution and allocation of national resources' got to do with the decision by the BBC to charge Over 75's the BBC Tax? Nobby, did oldie answer this or, did he ignore it? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2019 18:49:20 GMT
Just what has 'income distribution and allocation of national resources' got to do with the decision by the BBC to charge Over 75's the BBC Tax? Nobby, did oldie answer this or, did he ignore it? I think he finally realised that once again he was in the minority. |
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