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Post by neilv93 on Jul 17, 2019 14:56:54 GMT
Enjoyed the game, thought we looked alright. Rodman and Upson in particular had good games IMO.
Also pleasantly surprised by Bath, who played the ball around really nicely operating in a Wilder-esque 3-5-2 with overlapping CBs. That big lad Bower won everything in the air (not hard when Reilly only came up to his crotch) and looked like he could play too, astute signing from Cheltenham it seems.
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Post by William Wilson on Jul 17, 2019 15:02:03 GMT
That's my concern too. Perhaps that explains the chase for Scales, a defender with pace? 3-5-2 seems a likely formation so he could fit naturally into that if he's good enough. Tbh the only way I could see us putting out a defence that suits playing a high line would be to go with something like... _____Little__Davies/Craig__Scales Hare_________________________Leahy ...or similar. At least then you'd have some pace in the two wider CBs, if not in the central one. However, not sure I'd want to sacrifice the pace Little gives us going forwards by playing him in a back three. From what I saw last night, that would be a waste of his talent.
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Post by wertongas on Jul 17, 2019 15:37:06 GMT
From what I have seen of Sercombe last season and the report from last night it appears he was awful. He is not a shadow of the player we had when he first joined. If for what ever reason players won't perform for the club then I think we should start bringing in some of our talented youngsters. We don't have the money to buy ourselves promotion sometimes we find a promising player like jch or Little but not that often. So I think we needs to go back to bringing on more of our own players, I think back to the seventies when we were in the second tier we brought in local players aound Bristol or South Wales such as Bater , Aitken, Evens, Barrett, Randel and Williams. Some of the best players this club as has had since I have been supporting them. There are some good young fringe players at the moment if you don't give them a chance you will never know how good they could really be these players need to be given an opportunity in the first team to stretch themselves and show what they can do, can't be any worse than some of our first team players last season. We rely to much on bringing in often other teams cast offs and not blooding our own youngsters.
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Post by markczgas on Jul 17, 2019 15:48:47 GMT
From what I have seen of Sercombe last season and the report from last night it appears he was awful. He is not a shadow of the player we had when he first joined. If for what ever reason players won't perform for the club then I think we should start bringing in some of our talented youngsters. We don't have the money to buy ourselves promotion sometimes we find a promising player like jch or Little but not that often. So I think we needs to go back to bringing on more of our own players, I think back to the seventies when we were in the second tier we brought in local players aound Bristol or South Wales such as Bater , Aitken, Evens, Barrett, Randel and Williams. Some of the best players this club as has had since I have been supporting them. There are some good young fringe players at the moment if you don't give them a chance you will never know how good they could really be these players need to be given an opportunity in the first team to stretch themselves and show what they can do, can't be any worse than some of our first team players last season. We rely to much on bringing in often other teams cast offs and not blooding our own youngsters. If you followed pre-season games then you'd have noticed that youngsters such as Moore, Russe, Hoole and Tomlinson have seen a lot of game time ! I'm sure GC and the staff will have formed an opinion if these boys should be picked ahead of the senior players.
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Post by wertongas on Jul 17, 2019 16:11:32 GMT
From what I have seen of Sercombe last season and the report from last night it appears he was awful. He is not a shadow of the player we had when he first joined. If for what ever reason players won't perform for the club then I think we should start bringing in some of our talented youngsters. We don't have the money to buy ourselves promotion sometimes we find a promising player like jch or Little but not that often. So I think we needs to go back to bringing on more of our own players, I think back to the seventies when we were in the second tier we brought in local players aound Bristol or South Wales such as Bater , Aitken, Evens, Barrett, Randel and Williams. Some of the best players this club as has had since I have been supporting them. There are some good young fringe players at the moment if you don't give them a chance you will never know how good they could really be these players need to be given an opportunity in the first team to stretch themselves and show what they can do, can't be any worse than some of our first team players last season. We rely to much on bringing in often other teams cast offs and not blooding our own youngsters. If you followed pre-season games then you'd have noticed that youngsters such as Moore, Russe, Hoole and Tomlinson have seen a lot of game time ! I'm sure GC and the staff will have formed an opinion if these boys should be picked ahead of the senior players. I had noticed that and the fact that some of the younger players performed better than Sercombe if this continues then they should be given a chance in front of more senior players in the first team but if recent history is anything to go by they probably won't. .
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2019 16:47:36 GMT
That's my concern too. Perhaps that explains the chase for Scales, a defender with pace? 3-5-2 seems a likely formation so he could fit naturally into that if he's good enough. Tbh the only way I could see us putting out a defence that suits playing a high line would be to go with something like... _____Little__Davies/Craig__Scales Hare_________________________Leahy ...or similar. At least then you'd have some pace in the two wider CBs, if not in the central one. However, not sure I'd want to sacrifice the pace Little gives us going forwards by playing him in a back three. Not sure judging solely on last night that Hare is anything other than back up to Little at this stage. Gave the ball away repeatedly. But, it's one game so I won't write anyone off yet. I could see a back 3 of Craig, Davies or Kilgour and ANOther with pace, with Little and Leahy/THD as wing backs. Central 3 of Clarke and two of Ogogo, Upson and Sercombe. Nichols or Sercombe alongside JCH. Again, not sure Moore is anything more than back up at this stage. But that has no room for Rodman or Bennett, who would presumably be the preferred options should we go 4-4-2. I like the fact that we can adapt to different systems though. That was one if the great strengths of DC's teams, particularly early on.
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Post by Colyton Gas on Jul 17, 2019 16:59:35 GMT
Sercs was great at Kiddy but Smith looked very average.How was Deon Moore last night?
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Post by lpgas on Jul 17, 2019 18:18:28 GMT
I though Moore was good last night, ran the channels well and wasn't afraid to take people on. I was also impressed with Hoole. I don't know if Mensah was injured or not but I think he will be gone soon along with Bennett who I thought was woeful after 20 minutes. I don't know who the Bath left back was but I thought he was pretty good, in fact I was quite impressed with them overall.
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Post by pirate on Jul 17, 2019 18:55:59 GMT
I though Moore was good last night, ran the channels well and wasn't afraid to take people on. I was also impressed with Hoole. I don't know if Mensah was injured or not but I think he will be gone soon along with Bennett who I thought was woeful after 20 minutes. I don't know who the Bath left back was but I thought he was pretty good, in fact I was quite impressed with them overall. The Bath left back was Connor Riley-Lowe, a former Exeter City pro, signed this summer from Truro City. A good signing for Bath. One of the best left backs at their level.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2019 19:06:12 GMT
I though Moore was good last night, ran the channels well and wasn't afraid to take people on. I was also impressed with Hoole. I don't know if Mensah was injured or not but I think he will be gone soon along with Bennett who I thought was woeful after 20 minutes. I don't know who the Bath left back was but I thought he was pretty good, in fact I was quite impressed with them overall. They did try to play some good football. Hope they do well this season.
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Post by cheese4ead on Jul 17, 2019 19:09:30 GMT
What do you know about Matt Bowers, Pirate? He looked excellent last night. My pick of a decent Bath side. 20 years old, 6 foot 6, mobile, good in the air, great positional sense and a lot of their attacking play seemed to start with him. Better than what we have?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2019 20:53:42 GMT
Tyler Harvey’s freekick taking ability based on those 2 that hit the post is of a very high level! I’d be interested to see how many he scores for Bath this season up top in a good side. I think he could be one to keep an eye on as I think he might just have that X factor as such. Just a feeling!
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Post by pirate on Jul 17, 2019 21:33:38 GMT
What do you know about Matt Bowers, Pirate? He looked excellent last night. My pick of a decent Bath side. 20 years old, 6 foot 6, mobile, good in the air, great positional sense and a lot of their attacking play seemed to start with him. Better than what we have? Saw him loads last season when on loan at Weston. Was a bit raw, but decent attributes and good potential. One I'd definitely be monitoring if I was at Rovers. I got talking to Alan Walsh at a game and he was scouting him for Stoke. gaschat.co.uk/post/444278
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Post by Westy on Jul 17, 2019 21:33:42 GMT
Sercs could never tackle it's a mystery how he got to this level without being able to tackle, or how he hopes to play central mid without being able to tackle. Have you seen the guy tackle though? 🙃
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Post by cheese4ead on Jul 17, 2019 22:08:53 GMT
What do you know about Matt Bowers, Pirate? He looked excellent last night. My pick of a decent Bath side. 20 years old, 6 foot 6, mobile, good in the air, great positional sense and a lot of their attacking play seemed to start with him. Better than what we have? Saw him loads last season when on loan at Weston. Was a bit raw, but decent attributes and good potential. One I'd definitely be monitoring if I was at Rovers. I got talking to Alan Walsh at a game and he was scouting him for Stoke. gaschat.co.uk/post/444278How have Cheltenham let this lad walk? He looks ready. Like you mention in your link, left foot, good on the ball, decent in the air. Hell, he was hitting 40 yard passes to feet, last night. I like Rollin and Alfie but I would suggest that Matt is ahead of both of them, going off of last night and your previous assessment.
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Post by pirate on Jul 17, 2019 22:15:35 GMT
Saw him loads last season when on loan at Weston. Was a bit raw, but decent attributes and good potential. One I'd definitely be monitoring if I was at Rovers. I got talking to Alan Walsh at a game and he was scouting him for Stoke. gaschat.co.uk/post/444278How have Cheltenham let this lad walk? He looks ready. Like you mention in your link, left foot, good on the ball, decent in the air. Hell, he was hitting 40 yard passes to feet, last night. I like Rollin and Alfie but I would suggest that Matt is ahead of both of them, going off of last night and your previous assessment. A couple of people involved in the game that I have spoken to were asking the same question. Alan Walsh thought he would be recalled from Weston last season and go into the Cheltenham first team, but it didn't happen. It's a game of opinions and perhaps the decision makers there just didn't rate him enough. Does seem a bit strange to me given his age, attributes and potential. One they could live to regret.
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Post by cheese4ead on Jul 17, 2019 22:35:13 GMT
How have Cheltenham let this lad walk? He looks ready. Like you mention in your link, left foot, good on the ball, decent in the air. Hell, he was hitting 40 yard passes to feet, last night. I like Rollin and Alfie but I would suggest that Matt is ahead of both of them, going off of last night and your previous assessment. A couple of people involved in the game that I have spoken to were asking the same question. Alan Walsh thought he would be recalled from Weston last season and go into the Cheltenham first team, but it didn't happen. It's a game of opinions and perhaps the decision makers there just didn't rate him enough. Does seem a bit strange to me given his age, attributes and potential. One they could live to regret. I think they will! I wonder if GC took note?
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Post by pirate on Jul 17, 2019 22:38:01 GMT
A couple of people involved in the game that I have spoken to were asking the same question. Alan Walsh thought he would be recalled from Weston last season and go into the Cheltenham first team, but it didn't happen. It's a game of opinions and perhaps the decision makers there just didn't rate him enough. Does seem a bit strange to me given his age, attributes and potential. One they could live to regret. I think they will! I wonder if GC took note? I'd like to think so.
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Post by outsidehitter30 on Jul 18, 2019 0:12:14 GMT
Enjoyed the game, thought we looked alright. Rodman and Upson in particular had good games IMO. Also pleasantly surprised by Bath, who played the ball around really nicely operating in a Wilder-esque 3-5-2 with overlapping CBs. That big lad Bower won everything in the air (not hard when Reilly only came up to his crotch) and looked like he could play too, astute signing from Cheltenham it seems. Bath City were Excellent on Wednesday. It will be interesting to see their results against Newport and Exeter in preseason. I would not be surprised if they beat one of them. I predict a very good season for them on that showing.
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Post by William Wilson on Jul 18, 2019 6:05:59 GMT
Enjoyed the game, thought we looked alright. Rodman and Upson in particular had good games IMO. Also pleasantly surprised by Bath, who played the ball around really nicely operating in a Wilder-esque 3-5-2 with overlapping CBs. That big lad Bower won everything in the air (not hard when Reilly only came up to his crotch) and looked like he could play too, astute signing from Cheltenham it seems. Bath City were Excellent on Wednesday. It will be interesting to see their results against Newport and Exeter in preseason. I would not be surprised if they beat one of them. I predict a very good season for them on that showing. So do I. Watching that game, you wouldn`t have known which team was from the higher division. But it doesn`t always work out like that. I`ve seen us look impressive in preseason, and awful thereafter. And vice versa.
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