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Post by Gassy on Aug 4, 2019 11:19:32 GMT
Inappropriate because the traffic is one issue, the Link Road, on a Saturday is very busy and can only get worse if the ground is built. I mentioned on my original post that pollution would be an issue as its in or very near the city centre, Horfield is on the outskirts. Despite all that's been said about park and rides, train stations all these are excellent but both GWR and First bus are owned by the First group who are not exactly renowned for reliability, punctuality and value for money. Both those schemes rely on people selecting those services as their first choice. Problem with both bus and train is that, yes its great for getting to the ground as supporters arrive at different times but at the end of the game, all the supporters want to get on the transport at the same time. There is also problem with segregation of supporters in the park and ride and stations. Build it in Severnside and you have the M49 to get supporters away from the ground with ease. Severnside site would not be land locked like the Fruit Market, should BRFC ever make the Premiership, after all a new ground is supposed to take the club forward, 20,000 gates would probably not be enough to sustain it. 24 hours ago we were away at Blackpool with a hint of a new Stadium, now we're pushing our way into the Premiership? Not bad. After a performance deemed to be something that doesn’t even resemble a football team. It’s been an emotional 24 hours |
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Post by baggins on Aug 4, 2019 11:21:30 GMT
24 hours ago we were away at Blackpool with a hint of a new Stadium, now we're pushing our way into the Premiership? Not bad. After a performance deemed to be something that doesn’t even resemble a football team. It’s been an emotional 24 hours And, I think I've lost my favourite pen. This weekend can't go fast enough. |
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Post by Thatslife on Aug 4, 2019 11:22:28 GMT
Inappropriate because the traffic is one issue, the Link Road, on a Saturday is very busy and can only get worse if the ground is built. I mentioned on my original post that pollution would be an issue as its in or very near the city centre, Horfield is on the outskirts. Despite all that's been said about park and rides, train stations all these are excellent but both GWR and First bus are owned by the First group who are not exactly renowned for reliability, punctuality and value for money. Both those schemes rely on people selecting those services as their first choice. Problem with both bus and train is that, yes its great for getting to the ground as supporters arrive at different times but at the end of the game, all the supporters want to get on the transport at the same time. There is also problem with segregation of supporters in the park and ride and stations. Build it in Severnside and you have the M49 to get supporters away from the ground with ease. Severnside site would not be land locked like the Fruit Market, should BRFC ever make the Premiership, after all a new ground is supposed to take the club forward, 20,000 gates would probably not be enough to sustain it. Going to football is not just about going to the football for many fans it’s a chance to catch up with friends and have a few hours out socialising and watching football. Out of town sites such as the one you suggest would be horrendous for that. Also absolutely no one could walk to the match, public transport would be poor or non existent and pretty much everyone would have to go by car all leaving the car parks at exactly the same time, so you can add an hour onto when you get home for that! Building in existing urban areas increases the flexibility of access and public transport can be more easily adapted so that it is the majority choice. Even where we are now the bus service that goes up and down the Gloucester Rd is excellent it’s just getting more people to use it that’s the issue. A fully integrated metro/bus/train system with oyster like cards would be a start. Yes your right about cars leaving at the end of the match but consider this, leaving the ground and then most will head for the link road, and yes and as I have said is often busy so the car park is emptying onto an already busy road that has limited capacity, where as the car park emptying near or onto a motorway where they get away from the ground quickly. Take the RICOH stadium, when we played there the car parks emptied very quick because of its close proximity to the motorways. I only wish we were building a copy of the Rioch stadium as I thought it was a wonderful ground, big but not to big. |
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Post by Mr Pond on Aug 4, 2019 11:22:34 GMT
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Post by oddsongas on Aug 4, 2019 11:26:03 GMT
Never seen you happy. Or not swearing for that matter. O dear, the morally superior are live and well; fortunately, how l feel, and decide to narrate, currently at least, is a matter for me and no one else, long may that continue. The point in question, is in my opinion, taking too much notice of the annual Wael & Twentyman radio address to the faithful, can be rather full hardy. Thinking your can build a twenty thousand seat stadium on the Fruit Market, a site where the surrounding area has no infrastructure to support a massive influx of vehicles, is strange at best and will be a very challenging discussion with Bristol City Council. See that’s a good point, better than writing what a load of bollocks! It just looks aggressive otherwise IMO |
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Post by rememberhalifax on Aug 4, 2019 11:29:13 GMT
If the will is there you can overcome any problem associated with this or any other site, you can always find reasons not to build here or there but the over riding feeling most be 'a we can do this attitude' see my post re ticket office Clare, that's the attitude we need! looking at Blackpool's ground yesterday I thought this will do us nicely, and would not be that difficult to replicate at the Mem would it ? one stand at a time and in blue of course, Clare get on it Monday morning! I await the hundred and one reasons why it cant be done !!
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Post by chilly1883 on Aug 4, 2019 11:30:01 GMT
the amount of times, I’ve got excited “about stadiums “ . Has turned me into the most pessimistic person ever!! Haven’t we all, but that’s part of being a gashead, but maybe just maybe this is where it all changes for us 🙏💙⚽️ |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2019 11:33:46 GMT
I just farted and followed through...any tips?
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Post by rovers5charlton5 on Aug 4, 2019 11:36:46 GMT
Supporters come from all over the place so location will benefit some but not others. Public transport - whether we like it or not - will be the way forward. Having a stadium very close to a major transport hub in Bristol Temple Meads might keep the nimbys/environmentalists happy. In an ideal world you'd get to 'the fruit bowl' via train from your local station. With weekly/monthly/annual tickets for trains already available someone must liaise with the train operators for a 23 return journey ticket. Or discounted travel on production of match ticket. Sorry, thinking ahead there There were never any plans to do anything special to link Filton Station to the UWE development, it was just assumed the existing ticketing and infrastructure would be up to the job. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2019 11:37:33 GMT
I just farted and followed through...any tips? Yeh don’t try and start the longest ever thread seconds after someone else just did. I know it bothers you Bolders old chap/chapette. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2019 11:38:50 GMT
After a performance deemed to be something that doesn’t even resemble a football team. It’s been an emotional 24 hours And, I think I've lost my favourite pen. This weekend can't go fast enough. Parker, ball point? Personalised, in blue? Feel for you man. |
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Post by axegas on Aug 4, 2019 11:39:02 GMT
One interesting quote I took away from that: "Following extensive industrial use, St Philip’s Marsh remains heavily contaminated in parts requiring remediation prior to new development." I'm not fully aware of the site history of the Fruit Market but I'm guessing a lot of work will be required before it is suitable for public use? |
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Post by clampdown on Aug 4, 2019 11:39:27 GMT
Parkway to Temple Meads £4.10 return. Job done for that side of town. Plus almost £9 to park |
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Aug 4, 2019 11:39:43 GMT
If the will is there you can overcome any problem associated with this or any other site, you can always find reasons not to build here or there but the over riding feeling most be 'a we can do this attitude' see my post re ticket office Clare, that's the attitude we need! looking at Blackpool's ground yesterday I thought this will do us nicely, and would not be that difficult to replicate at the Mem would it ? one stand at a time and in blue of course, Clare get on it Monday morning! I await the hundred and one reasons why it cant be done !! You could get Blackpool’s ground on our current site too! The rugby club were really sh** at Stadium design weren’t they! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2019 11:40:10 GMT
Supporters come from all over the place so location will benefit some but not others. Public transport - whether we like it or not - will be the way forward. Having a stadium very close to a major transport hub in Bristol Temple Meads might keep the nimbys/environmentalists happy. In an ideal world you'd get to 'the fruit bowl' via train from your local station. With weekly/monthly/annual tickets for trains already available someone must liaise with the train operators for a 23 return journey ticket. Or discounted travel on production of match ticket. Sorry, thinking ahead there There were never any plans to do anything special to link Filton Station to the UWE development, it was just assumed the existing ticketing and infrastructure would be up to the job. I doubt it was simply assumed. The planning team would have carried out a study and added their findings for backing up the plan. |
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Post by clampdown on Aug 4, 2019 11:40:29 GMT
Parkway to Temple Meads £4.10 return. Job done for that side of town. Plus almost £9 to park, unless you can find somewhere outside the station. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2019 11:42:01 GMT
One interesting quote I took away from that: "Following extensive industrial use, St Philip’s Marsh remains heavily contaminated in parts requiring remediation prior to new development." I'm not fully aware of the site history of the Fruit Market but I'm guessing a lot of work will be required before it is suitable for public use? Yes exactly my point earlier. I hope pre construction costs don’t restrict the actual build. |
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Post by ricardo on Aug 4, 2019 11:43:13 GMT
So, why is it embarrassing that there is finally some evidence that things are actually going on behind scenes? I will also believe it when I’m sat in it, but it isn’t embarrassing. What is embarrassing is our shithole of a stadium because I’m personally embarrassed to hear about stadium talk, time and time again!! When we all know, that ultimately, it will NEVER happen. It will happen, the question is whether when it happens it will be on our terms. The mem land is too valuable. |
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Post by gashead1981 on Aug 4, 2019 11:43:33 GMT
One interesting quote I took away from that: "Following extensive industrial use, St Philip’s Marsh remains heavily contaminated in parts requiring remediation prior to new development." I'm not fully aware of the site history of the Fruit Market but I'm guessing a lot of work will be required before it is suitable for public use? For as long as I can remember the fruit market has been a car Park with loads of industrial units on it. As a kid we were taken there every Sunday so grandad and my mum could do some shopping. It’s not changed in 30 odd years. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2019 11:44:58 GMT
One interesting quote I took away from that: "Following extensive industrial use, St Philip’s Marsh remains heavily contaminated in parts requiring remediation prior to new development." I'm not fully aware of the site history of the Fruit Market but I'm guessing a lot of work will be required before it is suitable for public use? For as long as I can remember the fruit market has been a car Park with loads of industrial units on it. As a kid we were taken there every Sunday so grandad and my mum could do some shopping. It’s not changed in 30 odd years. what about in the 1800’s? The last 30years is only a small part of its history. |
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