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Post by Henbury Gas on Aug 5, 2019 12:46:04 GMT
Why do you assume that when posters prior to the announcement were suggesting otherwise? Because there is clearly an element of trouble makers making stuff up. The real question is who and how much is baseless lies, what’s speculation, what’s spun and misinformation, and what’s concrete truth. In your considered opinion, do you think when this stadium complex is completed in the next 3-5 years, The current owners of the club will still own the club when we move into the new complex ? |
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Post by chewbacca on Aug 5, 2019 12:46:58 GMT
Because there is clearly an element of trouble makers making stuff up. The real question is who and how much is baseless lies, what’s speculation, what’s spun and misinformation, and what’s concrete truth. In your considered opinion, do you think when this stadium complex is completed in the next 3-5 years, The current owners of the club will still own the club when we move into the new complex ? Hold your horses. |
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Post by gashead1981 on Aug 5, 2019 12:48:25 GMT
You’re not wrong, but he announced far earlier than he wanted to as information had started to leak out and the Al Qadis are not Nick Higgs. Each time Geoff Twentyman asked follow up questions about finance for instance, Wael said it would be “inappropriate” to comment at that stage. Wouldn’t make for much of an interview. Perhaps Wael was just received to be able to say something positive about the stadium for once. Surely the issue is that it was suggested by certain posters Wael had no involvement in these plans, the fact he's not released anything of any substance, apart from it's the Fruit Market site adds weight to that view? Do you honestly think that Wael would shoot his mouth about something he has no involvement in, knows little about, without their authority to say something or without having a clear strategy to release this information, thus putting the whole thing in jeopardy? Even if you think he is that much of a clumsey half wit, even you can’t think that is possible. It doesn’t make any sense. |
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Post by womble on Aug 5, 2019 12:53:51 GMT
You’re not wrong, but he announced far earlier than he wanted to as information had started to leak out and the Al Qadis are not Nick Higgs. Each time Geoff Twentyman asked follow up questions about finance for instance, Wael said it would be “inappropriate” to comment at that stage. Wouldn’t make for much of an interview. Perhaps Wael was just received to be able to say something positive about the stadium for once. Surely the issue is that it was suggested by certain posters Wael had no involvement in these plans, the fact he's not released anything of any substance, apart from it's the Fruit Market site adds weight to that view? If the Al Qadis have no involvement in these plans, then it isn’t going to happen because they own the football club. No-one is going to build a 20,000 seater stadium if they don’t have a team to put in it. Even if this involves an eventual complete or partial takeover, the current owners have to be involved. |
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Post by gasandelectricity on Aug 5, 2019 12:54:56 GMT
Because there is clearly an element of trouble makers making stuff up. The real question is who and how much is baseless lies, what’s speculation, what’s spun and misinformation, and what’s concrete truth. In your considered opinion, do you think when this stadium complex is completed in the next 3-5 years, The current owners of the club will still own the club when we move into the new complex ? Well you like to make it out as if you’re in the know so why don’t you spill the beans? Back when it still appeared as if the UWE deal was on there was a lot of speculation regards us being bought out by a Hampshire construction company. It’s not unreasonable for a said company to be a partner in the site. Doesn’t mean they have to invest in us as a club. Similarly if they do it doesn’t necessary need to be a buy out - it could be a solution of equity which would explain why the Al Qadis a re reluctant to seek other investment from supporters as that would dilute their end equity and possibly result in them losing control of the club or restrict their ability to get enough capital to do what they need. However, there’s so much nonsense that gets spouted here there an everywhere it’s difficult to sift through what’s true and what’s lies. I think there is someone in or connected to the club with an agenda looking to alter the truth or cause discomfort for the Al Qadis and that’s why Wael has come out and told us about the fruit market to try and retain an element of control. Certainly I don’t see why they would continue to fund us to the tune of 3mn a year if they weren’t planning on sticking around |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2019 12:58:06 GMT
Once again, I just feel something is not quite right. Normally when a business has good news, they announce it to the world. This latest news was just 'mentioned' on a rarely listened to early Saturday afternoon radio show.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Aug 5, 2019 13:01:26 GMT
In your considered opinion, do you think when this stadium complex is completed in the next 3-5 years, The current owners of the club will still own the club when we move into the new complex ? Well you like to make it out as if you’re in the know so why don’t you spill the beans? Back when it still appeared as if the UWE deal was on there was a lot of speculation regards us being bought out by a Hampshire construction company. It’s not unreasonable for a said company to be a partner in the site. Doesn’t mean they have to invest in us as a club. Similarly if they do it doesn’t necessary need to be a buy out - it could be a solution of equity which would explain why the Al Qadis a re reluctant to seek other investment from supporters as that would dilute their end equity and possibly result in them losing control of the club or restrict their ability to get enough capital to do what they need. However, there’s so much nonsense that gets spouted here there an everywhere it’s difficult to sift through what’s true and what’s lies. I think there is someone in or connected to the club with an agenda looking to alter the truth or cause discomfort for the Al Qadis and that’s why Wael has come out and told us about the fruit market to try and retain an element of control. Certainly I don’t see why they would continue to fund us to the tune of 3mn a year if they weren’t planning on sticking around I know no more than most people on here, i'm just trying to apply some logic to the financing of this project. based on what people are saying about the family not interested in Football why would they want to commit to a project that could cost upwards of £50-80m to achieve with no guarantee of a good return |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2019 13:04:00 GMT
You’re not wrong, but he announced far earlier than he wanted to as information had started to leak out and the Al Qadis are not Nick Higgs. Each time Geoff Twentyman asked follow up questions about finance for instance, Wael said it would be “inappropriate” to comment at that stage. Wouldn’t make for much of an interview. Perhaps Wael was just received to be able to say something positive about the stadium for once. Surely the issue is that it was suggested by certain posters Wael had no involvement in these plans, the fact he's not released anything of any substance, apart from it's the Fruit Market site adds weight to that view? In your opinion, certainly not mine! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2019 13:06:17 GMT
Well you like to make it out as if you’re in the know so why don’t you spill the beans? Back when it still appeared as if the UWE deal was on there was a lot of speculation regards us being bought out by a Hampshire construction company. It’s not unreasonable for a said company to be a partner in the site. Doesn’t mean they have to invest in us as a club. Similarly if they do it doesn’t necessary need to be a buy out - it could be a solution of equity which would explain why the Al Qadis a re reluctant to seek other investment from supporters as that would dilute their end equity and possibly result in them losing control of the club or restrict their ability to get enough capital to do what they need. However, there’s so much nonsense that gets spouted here there an everywhere it’s difficult to sift through what’s true and what’s lies. I think there is someone in or connected to the club with an agenda looking to alter the truth or cause discomfort for the Al Qadis and that’s why Wael has come out and told us about the fruit market to try and retain an element of control. Certainly I don’t see why they would continue to fund us to the tune of 3mn a year if they weren’t planning on sticking around I know no more than most people on here, i'm just trying to apply some logic to the financing of this project. based on what people are saying about the family not interested in Football why would they want to commit to a project that could cost upwards of £50-80m to achieve with no guarantee of a good return Maybe they are getting into bed with YTL, which is why they are confident that BCC will approve it all, after all, Marvin is one of YTL's favourites eh ! The links are all there, Bristol Arena, YTL, Filton, original Arena site, Marvin........... |
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Post by womble on Aug 5, 2019 13:06:31 GMT
Well you like to make it out as if you’re in the know so why don’t you spill the beans? Back when it still appeared as if the UWE deal was on there was a lot of speculation regards us being bought out by a Hampshire construction company. It’s not unreasonable for a said company to be a partner in the site. Doesn’t mean they have to invest in us as a club. Similarly if they do it doesn’t necessary need to be a buy out - it could be a solution of equity which would explain why the Al Qadis a re reluctant to seek other investment from supporters as that would dilute their end equity and possibly result in them losing control of the club or restrict their ability to get enough capital to do what they need. However, there’s so much nonsense that gets spouted here there an everywhere it’s difficult to sift through what’s true and what’s lies. I think there is someone in or connected to the club with an agenda looking to alter the truth or cause discomfort for the Al Qadis and that’s why Wael has come out and told us about the fruit market to try and retain an element of control. Certainly I don’t see why they would continue to fund us to the tune of 3mn a year if they weren’t planning on sticking around I know no more than most people on here, i'm just trying to apply some logic to the financing of this project. based on what people are saying about the family not interested in Football why would they want to commit to a project that could cost upwards of £50-80m to achieve with no guarantee of a good return Surely a good return will depend on whether it’s just a stadium (in which case a good return seems unlikely), or other uses are included on the site. |
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Post by baggins on Aug 5, 2019 13:07:04 GMT
Once again, I just feel something is not quite right. Normally when a business has good news, they announce it to the world. This latest news was just 'mentioned' on a rarely listened to early Saturday afternoon radio show. Rarely listened to Radio show? Have you seen how long the thread is regarding this? |
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Post by spacegas on Aug 5, 2019 13:09:29 GMT
Surely the issue is that it was suggested by certain posters Wael had no involvement in these plans, the fact he's not released anything of any substance, apart from it's the Fruit Market site adds weight to that view? Do you honestly think that Wael would shoot his mouth about something he has no involvement in, knows little about, without their authority to say something or without having a clear strategy to release this information, thus putting the whole thing in jeopardy? Even if you think he is that much of a clumsey half wit, even you can’t think that is possible. It doesn’t make any sense. I think most of us haven’t run a pro football club or indeed have the business acumen to do so. I personally think WAQ is a good guy, I don’t know him or have any interaction with anyone in the know but this constant barrage of negative comments would make anyone think twice about digging deep financially. I shall keep my rose tinted spectacles on and say that this time I have a feeling that whoever is behind this proposal, WAQ et al will get this done and give our club a sustainable future with due diligence being applied to the new stadium and our future stability. Heaven help us that we end up like a list of clubs that are in the mire due to financial mismanagement. UTG |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2019 13:09:55 GMT
Once again, I just feel something is not quite right. Normally when a business has good news, they announce it to the world. This latest news was just 'mentioned' on a rarely listened to early Saturday afternoon radio show. Rarely listened to Radio show? Have you seen how long the thread is regarding this? What Wael said was sure to stimulate posts. However, you would still expect this news to be released via a press conference, with full media coverage. You'd expect something on the official website............which is why I still think something is not quite right. |
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Post by Henbury Gas on Aug 5, 2019 13:10:50 GMT
I know no more than most people on here, i'm just trying to apply some logic to the financing of this project. based on what people are saying about the family not interested in Football why would they want to commit to a project that could cost upwards of £50-80m to achieve with no guarantee of a good return Surely a good return will depend on whether it’s just a stadium (in which case a good return seems unlikely), or other uses are included on the site. Did Wael say anything about other uses during his interview on the radio ? I've read a lot of talk about other facilities on Twitter & facebook but not sure about the source of said information |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2019 13:11:26 GMT
Do you honestly think that Wael would shoot his mouth about something he has no involvement in, knows little about, without their authority to say something or without having a clear strategy to release this information, thus putting the whole thing in jeopardy? Even if you think he is that much of a clumsey half wit, even you can’t think that is possible. It doesn’t make any sense. I think most of us haven’t run a pro football club or indeed have the business acumen to do so. I personally think WAQ is a good guy, I don’t know him or have any interaction with anyone in the know but this constant barrage of negative comments would make anyone think twice about digging deep financially. I shall keep my rose tinted spectacles on and say that this time I have a feeling that whoever is behind this proposal, WAQ et al will get this done and give our club a sustainable future with due diligence being applied to the new stadium and our future stability. Heaven help us that we end up like a list of clubs that are in the mire due to financial mismanagement. UTG If you dont mind me asking, where did you get your lobotomy done? Looks great. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2019 13:16:59 GMT
Once again, I just feel something is not quite right. Normally when a business has good news, they announce it to the world. This latest news was just 'mentioned' on a rarely listened to early Saturday afternoon radio show. Wael responded to a follow up question from Twentyman on how the search for a new site was going since their last conversation in March of this year. Anybody with any sense is not going to hold a press conference until they have established they can get planning permission and purchased the site. Wael said they had found a preferred site, initial talks with the council were very encouraging and we are in the process of drawing up a planning application and if successful the purchase would go ahead. Quite simple to understand as far as I am concerned. |
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Post by Henbury Gas on Aug 5, 2019 13:22:03 GMT
Once again, I just feel something is not quite right. Normally when a business has good news, they announce it to the world. This latest news was just 'mentioned' on a rarely listened to early Saturday afternoon radio show. Wael responded to a follow up question from Twentyman on how the search for a new site was going since their last conversation in March of this year. Anybody with any sense is not going to hold a press conference until they have established they can get planning permission and purchased the site. Wael said they had found a preferred site, initial talks with the council were very encouraging and we are in the process of drawing up a planning application and if successful the purchase would go ahead. Quite simple to understand as far as I am concerned. What i find difficult to understand is why at this point would he announce it ? why not wait until the project was more established ? |
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Post by womble on Aug 5, 2019 13:23:02 GMT
Surely a good return will depend on whether it’s just a stadium (in which case a good return seems unlikely), or other uses are included on the site. Did Wael say anything about other uses during his interview on the radio ? I've read a lot of talk about other facilities on Twitter & facebook but not sure about the source of said information No he didn’t. Nor did he say that there wouldn’t be any. No-one knows, which is why we’ve reached 24 pages of ill-informed speculation 😀 |
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Post by Henbury Gas on Aug 5, 2019 13:35:26 GMT
Did Wael say anything about other uses during his interview on the radio ? I've read a lot of talk about other facilities on Twitter & facebook but not sure about the source of said information No he didn’t. Nor did he say that there wouldn’t be any. No-one knows, which is why we’ve reached 24 pages of ill-informed speculation 😀 i would to think its discussion which is what football forums are all about, or have i got wrong as well |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Aug 5, 2019 13:39:38 GMT
Wael responded to a follow up question from Twentyman on how the search for a new site was going since their last conversation in March of this year. Anybody with any sense is not going to hold a press conference until they have established they can get planning permission and purchased the site. Wael said they had found a preferred site, initial talks with the council were very encouraging and we are in the process of drawing up a planning application and if successful the purchase would go ahead. Quite simple to understand as far as I am concerned. What i find difficult to understand is why at this point would he announce it ? why not wait until the project was more established ? Perhaps he was tired of reading all the complaints about a lack of communication. |
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