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Post by gasandelectricity on Apr 7, 2023 20:22:58 GMT
This seems completely wrong. They have purchased a short term option to purchase the land. If they decide to go ahead then time is money. They won't wait 4-5 years to start building. That was my thinking...the ball has been put in our court, the video suggest we want in. Marv Rees has said BCC have also been involved. Would hope things move along quickly, deal finalised, Stadium Design out, current site bull dozed by end of the year. I think we’ll be looking at 2-3 years before any bulldozers go to the site. This is going to be a complex deal to agree, get through planning, get the FM residents moved (which might need commercials and planning of its own). We will be waiting a while. It should be worth the wait though if it comes to fruition.
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 7, 2023 21:23:10 GMT
That was my thinking...the ball has been put in our court, the video suggest we want in. Marv Rees has said BCC have also been involved. Would hope things move along quickly, deal finalised, Stadium Design out, current site bull dozed by end of the year. I think we’ll be looking at 2-3 years before any bulldozers go to the site. This is going to be a complex deal to agree, get through planning, get the FM residents moved (which might need commercials and planning of its own). We will be waiting a while. It should be worth the wait though if it comes to fruition. You've missed out also getting planning for the Mem, unless Congyer are prepared to purchase the Mem without getting pp.
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 7, 2023 21:44:11 GMT
Well, this was a good surprise after getting back from the cricket in Taunton. Obviously lots of stages to go through yet and after so many disappointments in the past I’ll probably wait until it’s more certain before celebrating. But it’s got to be good news so credit to everyone who’s got us to this stage. Fingers now crossed. When I first heard talk about a new ground for Rovers I was 👦 now many, many years later I’m 👨🦳. I hope I get to see it and sit in it esp given the time scale that might come with it. 👍
UTG!
ps. A win and this news. I’m not used to too much good news in one day!
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Apr 7, 2023 21:50:41 GMT
That was my thinking...the ball has been put in our court, the video suggest we want in. Marv Rees has said BCC have also been involved. Would hope things move along quickly, deal finalised, Stadium Design out, current site bull dozed by end of the year. I think we’ll be looking at 2-3 years before any bulldozers go to the site. This is going to be a complex deal to agree, get through planning, get the FM residents moved (which might need commercials and planning of its own). We will be waiting a while. It should be worth the wait though if it comes to fruition. Let's hope we don't slip on any banana skins. I'd be berry happy if this gets the go ahead. Grape times are in front of us. The future's bright, the future's orange.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Apr 7, 2023 22:19:58 GMT
I think we’ll be looking at 2-3 years before any bulldozers go to the site. This is going to be a complex deal to agree, get through planning, get the FM residents moved (which might need commercials and planning of its own). We will be waiting a while. It should be worth the wait though if it comes to fruition. You've missed out also getting planning for the Mem, unless Congyer are prepared to purchase the Mem without getting pp. I expect it's part exchange in the deal and they'll figure it out afterwards. But who knows.
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Post by trueblur4u on Apr 8, 2023 6:41:09 GMT
Would Rovers' Fruit Market site stadium be better than Ashton Gate?
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Post by gasandelectricity on Apr 8, 2023 6:54:00 GMT
Would Rovers' Fruit Market site stadium be better than Ashton Gate? Course it will. It’ll be purpose built and in a far superior location. Capacity might initially be lower but hopefully it’ll have ample room for expansion.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Apr 8, 2023 7:27:07 GMT
That was my thinking...the ball has been put in our court, the video suggest we want in. Marv Rees has said BCC have also been involved. Would hope things move along quickly, deal finalised, Stadium Design out, current site bull dozed by end of the year. I think we’ll be looking at 2-3 years before any bulldozers go to the site. This is going to be a complex deal to agree, get through planning, get the FM residents moved (which might need commercials and planning of its own). We will be waiting a while. It should be worth the wait though if it comes to fruition. I was Told some time ago my our local greengrocer in WOT that the fruit Market had taken up an option of a piece of land in Hengrove. I will go see her again next week to see if she has heard anything else
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Post by playtowin on Apr 8, 2023 9:07:57 GMT
Good news. Things are moving forward.
Increasing the mem capacity is now more vital to start building the fanbase.
As is moving towards the championship.
Rovers played Champ level at both Eastville and Twerton park . Its time to add the Mem to that list.Even just for a one season visit .
The news the club has might be more than whats made public. Joe has mentioned a few things that allude to him being shown more.
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Post by trueblur4u on Apr 8, 2023 9:27:30 GMT
We will have to wait and see if Joey will still be the manager when stadium work commences!
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Post by gashead79 on Apr 8, 2023 10:04:24 GMT
Would Rovers' Fruit Market site stadium be better than Ashton Gate? 😄 Define better. Would it matter?
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Apr 8, 2023 10:08:03 GMT
Not for the first time, I'm gonna swim slightly against the stream here.
Whilst I think if this gets to fruition (!) it'll be a remarkable piece in the club's jigsaw history and no doubt (if managed well) will boast a huge potential for the club, I will be sad to leave the Mem.
It's as close to our heartland of Eastville and we are symbiant with the local community of businesses and residents alike.
We are a true community club.
Many walk to and from the Mem on matchday and we have established a home rather than abode not seen since 80s.
I understand the ambition to improve, to sustain the club in a more Monday to Friday basis, but I fear we may lose something along the way that makes us unique and GasHead characteristic for something more sterile and bland.
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Post by titchthephot on Apr 8, 2023 10:17:39 GMT
Not for the first time, I'm gonna swim slightly against the stream here. Whilst I think if this gets to fruition (!) it'll be a remarkable piece in the club's jigsaw history and no doubt (if managed well) will boast a huge potential for the club, I will be sad to leave the Mem. It's as close to our heartland of Eastville and we are symbiant with the local community of businesses and residents alike. We are a true community club. Many walk to and from the Mem on matchday and we have established a home rather than abode not seen since 80s. I understand the ambition to improve, to sustain the club in a more Monday to Friday basis, but I fear we may lose something along the way that makes us unique and GasHead characteristic for something more sterile and bland. I understand what you are saying but maybe Bristol Rovers isn't about a bit of land...it's about the fans, the team, the club itself. Bristol doesn't have a huge amount of available land to build a football ground on so we should be grateful for anywhere. I'm not from Bristol so despite going to Eastville many times back in the 70's it makes no difference to me where the new ground is. As it is, the Fruit Market is far better for me to get the games. I just want it all to happen...in my lifetime! As a post script to this...it didn't stop Rovers being Rovers when they played in a different city (Bath) so moving to another part of Bristol shouldn't be a problem. We may even pick up some teds who want to watch a decent team for once!!
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Post by gulfofaden on Apr 8, 2023 10:59:52 GMT
There are multiple proverbs in many languages and traditions which emphasise lost opportunities being the door opening to new ones.
Remember how upset we were after UWE. We are not at the finish line yet but FM is just so much better. Better location, no university ownership. No South Glocs rovers. No running track. Right next to temple meads and the motorway. In an up and coming part of Bristol with the trendy paintworks nearby. Dare I hope for safe standing?
Anyway, I hope this comes off.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Apr 8, 2023 11:06:59 GMT
Not for the first time, I'm gonna swim slightly against the stream here. Whilst I think if this gets to fruition (!) it'll be a remarkable piece in the club's jigsaw history and no doubt (if managed well) will boast a huge potential for the club, I will be sad to leave the Mem. It's as close to our heartland of Eastville and we are symbiant with the local community of businesses and residents alike. We are a true community club. Many walk to and from the Mem on matchday and we have established a home rather than abode not seen since 80s. I understand the ambition to improve, to sustain the club in a more Monday to Friday basis, but I fear we may lose something along the way that makes us unique and GasHead characteristic for something more sterile and bland. I understand what you are saying but maybe Bristol Rovers isn't about a bit of land...it's about the fans, the team, the club itself. Bristol doesn't have a huge amount of available land to build a football ground on so we should be grateful for anywhere. I'm not from Bristol so despite going to Eastville many times back in the 70's it makes no difference to me where the new ground is. As it is, the Fruit Market is far better for me to get the games. I just want it all to happen...in my lifetime! As a post script to this...it didn't stop Rovers being Rovers when they played in a different city (Bath) so moving to another part of Bristol shouldn't be a problem. We may even pick up some teds who want to watch a decent team for once!! I like that post but respectfully disagree. It is very much about land and geography. Many would struggle to support the club if they laid plans out south of the river. Your post is so right about the fans, the club and especially the team we all roll up to support - that's my point - are we sacrificing a home for a more structured abode? It takes more than bricks and water to make a place a home. Conversely, we can see that some clubs benefit from this off pitch stadium upgrade bounce.... just look at what Plymouth are doing this season.
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Post by wallywalters on Apr 8, 2023 11:13:37 GMT
I personally don't understand the arguments for being a poor location.
Were trying to build a new stadium in pretty much the centre of our city. Most clubs can only dream of doing that.
Good Transport links from all over the southwest lead Into our city centre and are in abundance which leaves a 10-15 minute walk to the ground
I'd understand if we were building in the middle of nowhere on the outskirts of the city.
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Apr 8, 2023 11:22:35 GMT
I personally don't understand the arguments for being a poor location. Were trying to build a new stadium in pretty much the centre of our city. Most clubs can only dream of doing that. Good Transport links from all over the southwest lead Into our city centre and are in abundance which leaves a 10-15 minute walk to the ground I'd understand if we were building in the middle of nowhere on the outskirts of the city. Totally agree. It’s strategically for the club, a great location. Close to the main train station, walkable to the city centre in a way that the Mem isn’t, still the right side of the river and so much easier to access for those wanting to get there from Bath and North Somerset. If we pull this off then I think it will be great for the club. It is still, a big if though, of course.
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Post by baggins on Apr 8, 2023 11:40:17 GMT
I personally don't understand the arguments for being a poor location. Were trying to build a new stadium in pretty much the centre of our city. Most clubs can only dream of doing that. Good Transport links from all over the southwest lead Into our city centre and are in abundance which leaves a 10-15 minute walk to the ground I'd understand if we were building in the middle of nowhere on the outskirts of the city. It's a 20 mintute walk to our nearest bus stop into the Centre, it stops at the Bear Pit. That's another 15 minute walk to the FM. And back. If the buses are on time, or as is the case by many cut back so much that's it not that easy to catch one full stop. And if it's going to attract as many fans as everyone hopes, coping with say, 8000 fans on a Saturday afternoon who are intending to bus it there and back home, it's not that attractive.
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Post by Quarters on Apr 8, 2023 11:47:36 GMT
I personally don't understand the arguments for being a poor location. Were trying to build a new stadium in pretty much the centre of our city. Most clubs can only dream of doing that. Good Transport links from all over the southwest lead Into our city centre and are in abundance which leaves a 10-15 minute walk to the ground I'd understand if we were building in the middle of nowhere on the outskirts of the city. It's a 20 mintute walk to our nearest bus stop into the Centre, it stops at the Bear Pit. That's another 15 minute walk to the FM. And back. If the buses are on time, or as is the case by many cut back so much that's it not that easy to catch one full stop. And if it's going to attract as many fans as everyone hopes, coping with say, 8000 fans on a Saturday afternoon who are intending to bus it there and back home, it's not that attractive. Why state what the services are like today? By the time it's built there will,probably, be many improvements in transport links. There will be park and ride schemes. Stations are being built or improved. And expect bus services to improve.
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Post by baggins on Apr 8, 2023 11:50:33 GMT
It's a 20 mintute walk to our nearest bus stop into the Centre, it stops at the Bear Pit. That's another 15 minute walk to the FM. And back. If the buses are on time, or as is the case by many cut back so much that's it not that easy to catch one full stop. And if it's going to attract as many fans as everyone hopes, coping with say, 8000 fans on a Saturday afternoon who are intending to bus it there and back home, it's not that attractive. Why state what the services are like today? By the time it's built there will,probably, be many improvements in transport links. There will be park and ride schemes. Stations are being built or improved. And expect bus services to improve. Why would bus services improve?
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