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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2023 11:55:25 GMT
Why state what the services are like today? By the time it's built there will,probably, be many improvements in transport links. There will be park and ride schemes. Stations are being built or improved. And expect bus services to improve. Why would bus services improve? It will be an area that a lot of people require transport to. First bus will k ow this and capitalise on it. |
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Post by axegas on Apr 8, 2023 12:03:00 GMT
Why state what the services are like today? By the time it's built there will,probably, be many improvements in transport links. There will be park and ride schemes. Stations are being built or improved. And expect bus services to improve. Why would bus services improve? You’ve got a massive Secondary school and Bristol University campus springing up not far from it. A lot more developments planned in the local master plan too. Bus routes and services follow the demand. |
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Post by baggins on Apr 8, 2023 12:07:57 GMT
Why would bus services improve? It will be an area that a lot of people require transport to. First bus will k ow this and capitalise on it. They can't provide a decent service as it is but expect them to cope with thousands every other Saturday? Can't wait for February, night game, freezing cold, joining thousands on bus trips, then walking through the door over an hour later. |
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Post by baggins on Apr 8, 2023 12:10:14 GMT
Why would bus services improve? You’ve got a massive Secondary school and Bristol University campus springing up not far from it. A lot more developments planned in the local master plan too. Bus routes and services follow the demand. They've already cut certain bus routes. |
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Apr 8, 2023 12:11:14 GMT
Not for the first time, I'm gonna swim slightly against the stream here. Whilst I think if this gets to fruition (!) it'll be a remarkable piece in the club's jigsaw history and no doubt (if managed well) will boast a huge potential for the club, I will be sad to leave the Mem. It's as close to our heartland of Eastville and we are symbiant with the local community of businesses and residents alike. We are a true community club. Many walk to and from the Mem on matchday and we have established a home rather than abode not seen since 80s. I understand the ambition to improve, to sustain the club in a more Monday to Friday basis, but I fear we may lose something along the way that makes us unique and GasHead characteristic for something more sterile and bland. I agree with all the points about being part of the community in North Bristol but see the situation much differently. Moving to the centre gives us a unique opportunity to do what neither Bristol club has done before and become THE club that represents Bristol as a whole. It’ll be the start of a new era for the club. |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Apr 8, 2023 12:27:05 GMT
Not for the first time, I'm gonna swim slightly against the stream here. Whilst I think if this gets to fruition (!) it'll be a remarkable piece in the club's jigsaw history and no doubt (if managed well) will boast a huge potential for the club, I will be sad to leave the Mem. It's as close to our heartland of Eastville and we are symbiant with the local community of businesses and residents alike. We are a true community club. Many walk to and from the Mem on matchday and we have established a home rather than abode not seen since 80s. I understand the ambition to improve, to sustain the club in a more Monday to Friday basis, but I fear we may lose something along the way that makes us unique and GasHead characteristic for something more sterile and bland. I agree with all the points about being part of the community in North Bristol but see the situation much differently. Moving to the centre gives us a unique opportunity to do what neither Bristol club has done before and become THE club that represents Bristol as a whole. It’ll be the start of a new era for the club. There you go ! We agree! We lose all the points about community and heritage for the vision of your post. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Apr 8, 2023 12:53:50 GMT
I personally don't understand the arguments for being a poor location. Were trying to build a new stadium in pretty much the centre of our city. Most clubs can only dream of doing that. Good Transport links from all over the southwest lead Into our city centre and are in abundance which leaves a 10-15 minute walk to the ground I'd understand if we were building in the middle of nowhere on the outskirts of the city. It's a 20 mintute walk to our nearest bus stop into the Centre, it stops at the Bear Pit. That's another 15 minute walk to the FM. And back. If the buses are on time, or as is the case by many cut back so much that's it not that easy to catch one full stop. And if it's going to attract as many fans as everyone hopes, coping with say, 8000 fans on a Saturday afternoon who are intending to bus it there and back home, it's not that attractive. You're Frenchay way aren't you, Bags? Wouldn't it be easier to use Parkway straight into Temple Meads? You could either drive to Parkway and do a Park&Ride or either the M1 or M4 bus. Either way, this is many years away, if at all so plenty of time for public transport to be adjusted to serve the area. |
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Post by gas2 on Apr 8, 2023 12:57:24 GMT
As of now the park and ride goes from avonmouth park and through Bristol city centre and ends at Brislngton on park and ride plus s New railway station opens at avonmouth park and ride this year there are 3 bus services that start at the bus station that goes along the bath road plus another bus service that starts at the mall cribbs and travels along the bath road plus a few others that end there journeys at Temple meads a new station being built at Ashley down filton and henbury
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Post by baggins on Apr 8, 2023 12:58:14 GMT
It's a 20 mintute walk to our nearest bus stop into the Centre, it stops at the Bear Pit. That's another 15 minute walk to the FM. And back. If the buses are on time, or as is the case by many cut back so much that's it not that easy to catch one full stop. And if it's going to attract as many fans as everyone hopes, coping with say, 8000 fans on a Saturday afternoon who are intending to bus it there and back home, it's not that attractive. You're Frenchay way aren't you, Bags? Wouldn't it be easier to use Parkway straight into Temple Meads? You could either do a Park&Ride or either the M1 or M4 bus. Either way, this is many years away, if at all so plenty of time for public transport to be adjusted to serve the area. Yep, Frenchay. Did the maths a few months ago regarding Parkway. Parking, train, there and back, adds an extra £280 per year on top of a Season Ticket. M1, 4 is a 20 minute walk away from the house, there and back. Either way, it's an expensive inconvenient day/evening to watch the Rovers at the FM. |
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Post by gashead79 on Apr 8, 2023 13:00:30 GMT
Might be a crazy idea and I'm aware this is me now getting ahead of myself! But, there will likely be a consultation during any potential build where supporters can raise issues such as transport etc.
There weren't buses to the Mall before it was built..
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Apr 8, 2023 13:07:25 GMT
It's a 20 mintute walk to our nearest bus stop into the Centre, it stops at the Bear Pit. That's another 15 minute walk to the FM. And back. If the buses are on time, or as is the case by many cut back so much that's it not that easy to catch one full stop. And if it's going to attract as many fans as everyone hopes, coping with say, 8000 fans on a Saturday afternoon who are intending to bus it there and back home, it's not that attractive. You're Frenchay way aren't you, Bags? Wouldn't it be easier to use Parkway straight into Temple Meads? You could either drive to Parkway and do a Park&Ride or either the M1 or M4 bus. Either way, this is many years away, if at all so plenty of time for public transport to be adjusted to serve the area. Hopefully there will be better transport infrastructure in place by the time we need it. We've caught the train to Parkway with the idea of bussing it to the ground, however, the buses cannot be relied on, and if one is missing, it can be a bit of a wait. Same after the match, we've sometimes waited for almost an hour to get a bus back to the station, have ended up calling an Uber. Due to health issues, "a 15 minute walk" is sometimes not possible, so it can be difficult trying to be Green. We have started driving again and parking at the Civil Service Club. My niece used the Brislington P&R for one of the concerts at AG, and she said it was very efficient. Rows of buses lined up, ready to go, when the concert finished. Whether something like that is possible for 23 games a year, I don't know. |
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Post by toggsy2 on Apr 8, 2023 13:07:27 GMT
Looking at the aerial map of the site there are train lines that run along the side of the site, I wonder if part of planning would be to incorporate these lines and add a small station/drop off and boarding platform similar to Parson Street
Would make sense to include these especially for away fans etc
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2023 13:15:21 GMT
Might be a crazy idea and I'm aware this is me now getting ahead of myself! But, there will likely be a consultation during any potential build where supporters can raise issues such as transport etc. There weren't buses to the Mall before it was built.. Don’t come round here with your reasonable thinking |
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Post by baggins on Apr 8, 2023 13:18:18 GMT
Might be a crazy idea and I'm aware this is me now getting ahead of myself! But, there will likely be a consultation during any potential build where supporters can raise issues such as transport etc. There weren't buses to the Mall before it was built.. Try getting a bus from Kingswood to the Mall. |
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Post by holmesgas1 on Apr 8, 2023 13:23:01 GMT
I personally don't understand the arguments for being a poor location. Were trying to build a new stadium in pretty much the centre of our city. Most clubs can only dream of doing that. Good Transport links from all over the southwest lead Into our city centre and are in abundance which leaves a 10-15 minute walk to the ground I'd understand if we were building in the middle of nowhere on the outskirts of the city. It's a 20 mintute walk to our nearest bus stop into the Centre, it stops at the Bear Pit. That's another 15 minute walk to the FM. And back. If the buses are on time, or as is the case by many cut back so much that's it not that easy to catch one full stop. And if it's going to attract as many fans as everyone hopes, coping with say, 8000 fans on a Saturday afternoon who are intending to bus it there and back home, it's not that attractive. Sorry, do you have crystal ball and know what the services will be in a few years. I could just as easily state there are is 4 bus stops, one at each corner and a tram link from Temple Meads. It’s all possible. Who knows, but have the feeling I will be a little closer to reality. |
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Apr 8, 2023 13:26:13 GMT
It's a 20 mintute walk to our nearest bus stop into the Centre, it stops at the Bear Pit. That's another 15 minute walk to the FM. And back. If the buses are on time, or as is the case by many cut back so much that's it not that easy to catch one full stop. And if it's going to attract as many fans as everyone hopes, coping with say, 8000 fans on a Saturday afternoon who are intending to bus it there and back home, it's not that attractive. Sorry, do you have crystal ball and know what the services will be in a few years. I could just as easily state there 4 bus stops one at each corner and a tram link from Temple Meads. It’s all possible. Who knows, but have the feeling I will be a little closer to reality. I hope that you are - no reasons why they shouldn't be able to get this right. As somebody with health issues, I can understand how Bags is concerned for his Dad, even though this is all years away, these things do cross your mind if you are personally affected. |
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Post by gashead79 on Apr 8, 2023 13:35:22 GMT
Might be a crazy idea and I'm aware this is me now getting ahead of myself! But, there will likely be a consultation during any potential build where supporters can raise issues such as transport etc. There weren't buses to the Mall before it was built.. Try getting a bus from Kingswood to the Mall. I drive and haven't been on a bus for years! I appreciate your concern just saying that the business case will likely include this stuff. They'll want people to be able to get there after all. |
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Post by Smithy Gas on Apr 8, 2023 13:36:37 GMT
I’ve said it before I’ll say it again - it’s going to be more convenient for some and less convenient for others. Anyone who’s lived in South Bristol for the last 10 years or more has had to drive or deal with shocking public transport links to the Mem and now will benefit.
A new stadium (should everything fall into place…) at this location does however give us the best opportunity to get the most people to the ground in the most sustainable ways possible. It will be a step change and people will need to change habits but the more people jumping on trains, buses and P&R to essentially a stadium next to the South West's major rail interchange (should be travel interchange but someone built the bus station in the wrong place…) the better.
Typically after 10 years basically a stones throw away I’m moving and will have to get a train!
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Post by keygas on Apr 8, 2023 13:38:28 GMT
You're Frenchay way aren't you, Bags? Wouldn't it be easier to use Parkway straight into Temple Meads? You could either drive to Parkway and do a Park&Ride or either the M1 or M4 bus. Either way, this is many years away, if at all so plenty of time for public transport to be adjusted to serve the area. Hopefully there will be better transport infrastructure in place by the time we need it. We've caught the train to Parkway with the idea of bussing it to the ground, however, the buses cannot be relied on, and if one is missing, it can be a bit of a wait. Same after the match, we've sometimes waited for almost an hour to get a bus back to the station, have ended up calling an Uber. Due to health issues, "a 15 minute walk" is sometimes not possible, so it can be difficult trying to be Green. We have started driving again and parking at the Civil Service Club. My niece used the Brislington P&R for one of the concerts at AG, and she said it was very efficient. Rows of buses lined up, ready to go, when the concert finished. Whether something like that is possible for 23 games a year, I don't know. Bristol sport already run bus services from the Brislington & Portway park & rides for every first team football & rugby games so I would imagine a similar scheme would be place when the new stadium is operational & would be a requirement when a traffic study report is submitted for the project. Saying that the Brislington P & R route already goes down the Bath Road & there is a bus stop by the Totterdown bridge which is a 5 minute walk from the fruit market, so the only additional buses that would need to be added would be for evening matches. |
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Post by trueblur4u on Apr 8, 2023 13:44:03 GMT
It might well turn out to be a decade until the stadium is finally built.
UTG.
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