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Post by bravosierraseven on Sept 11, 2023 18:45:56 GMT
I think a lot of the problem with our ground is access to it. Would it get the safety certificate if we had 20000 people going through three narrow entrances. The only way it could be practically viable would be if rovers bought about 20 terrace houses. And that would obviously be cost prohibitive. That's before you even consider any locals objections. We need to make the best of the mem in the short term but long term has to be a new ground. Sure wherever we end up that will be one a good day out. There is meant to be a train station being built at the YTL arena. Access should be ok to the site. I've often thought we should have been buying up the 10 or so houses behind the Thatchers, Probably cost about 5 or 6M now, with a view to reducing the length of the gardens to create more space. |
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Post by gasandelectricity on Sept 11, 2023 18:49:31 GMT
Let’s just rebuild the Mem. Old school stadiums are much more “romantic” anyway. Out of town bowls are boring. You literally can't get anywhere less out of town than the Fruit Market, and that's the only one on the table at the moment (no matter how unlikely it now seems). I do agree though that we should redevelop the Mem, I know I've banged on about this before, but we should re-orientate the pitch 90 degrees, build a new east stand behind the current one then in the off season dismantle the old east stand, re-orientate the pitch, use the current west stand behind the other goal, extend the temporary south stand along what would then be the side touchline, and either extend the Thatcher's or add a temporary stand in the space up to the new East stand, giving a capacity of between 15, and 20,000 depending on how big you build, then redevelop each side as and when. I reckon that the footprint at the Mem is roughly similar to Easter Road, Hibs ground, that's a great ground, just over 20,000 capacity and the option to fill in the corners which I think would take it up to around 27,000. Appreciate its not quite out of town. However it’ll have the air of the out of town stadiums IMO. FM was probably better for the club but we can’t keep kicking stadiums down the road for five years at a time until the next set of plans fall apart. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 11, 2023 18:50:54 GMT
I think a lot of the problem with our ground is access to it. Would it get the safety certificate if we had 20000 people going through three narrow entrances. The only way it could be practically viable would be if rovers bought about 20 terrace houses. And that would obviously be cost prohibitive. That's before you even consider any locals objections. We need to make the best of the mem in the short term but long term has to be a new ground. Sure wherever we end up that will be one a good day out. There is meant to be a train station being built at the YTL arena. Access should be ok to the site. if we can't make either the UWE or FM work financially then how are we going to do any better with YTL? I'd have though screwing UWE down to a good deal would be far easier than getting one with YTL. Perhaps it's all a clever ploy by the new owners to try and get a better deal from CI but we probably thought the same when we heard rumours the UWE deal was close to collapsing. |
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Post by gasandelectricity on Sept 11, 2023 18:50:55 GMT
I think a lot of the problem with our ground is access to it. Would it get the safety certificate if we had 20000 people going through three narrow entrances. The only way it could be practically viable would be if rovers bought about 20 terrace houses. And that would obviously be cost prohibitive. That's before you even consider any locals objections. We need to make the best of the mem in the short term but long term has to be a new ground. Sure wherever we end up that will be one a good day out. There is meant to be a train station being built at the YTL arena. Access should be ok to the site. I've often thought we should have been buying up the 10 or so houses behind the Thatchers, Probably cost about 5 or 6M now, with a view to reducing the length of the gardens to create more space. If we have ambitions of getting to the prem short to medium term improvements with the aim of doing stuff like this on the sides hemmed in by residential properties should be the aim of the game. Get to the prem and this sort of thing becomes much more achievable. |
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Post by The Equaliser on Sept 11, 2023 18:55:24 GMT
Bloody hell, you can’t just decide you want to buy peoples homes, there’s not a single chance in hell all would want to move home. 🤦🏾♀️
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 11, 2023 18:57:36 GMT
You literally can't get anywhere less out of town than the Fruit Market, and that's the only one on the table at the moment (no matter how unlikely it now seems). I do agree though that we should redevelop the Mem, I know I've banged on about this before, but we should re-orientate the pitch 90 degrees, build a new east stand behind the current one then in the off season dismantle the old east stand, re-orientate the pitch, use the current west stand behind the other goal, extend the temporary south stand along what would then be the side touchline, and either extend the Thatcher's or add a temporary stand in the space up to the new East stand, giving a capacity of between 15, and 20,000 depending on how big you build, then redevelop each side as and when. I reckon that the footprint at the Mem is roughly similar to Easter Road, Hibs ground, that's a great ground, just over 20,000 capacity and the option to fill in the corners which I think would take it up to around 27,000. Appreciate its not quite out of town. However it’ll have the air of the out of town stadiums IMO. FM was probably better for the club but we can’t keep kicking stadiums down the road for five years at a time until the next set of plans fall apart. re moving the pitch around, where do we play for the 2 or 3 years it'll take to rebuild the ground, AG's clearly a non starter, as is Twerton so who's really going to travel to Swindon or Cardiff to watch home games? |
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Post by bravosierraseven on Sept 11, 2023 19:01:25 GMT
Bloody hell, you can’t just decide you want to buy peoples homes, there’s not a single chance in hell all would want to move home. 🤦🏾♀️ I meant over time as they became available. We've been there 26 years now and I'm pretty sure most if not all of them have changed hands in that time. |
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Post by eric on Sept 11, 2023 19:02:25 GMT
Isn’t that a big part of the problem? Fans demand a better stadium but prefer to line the pockets of the Glos Road pubs rather than use bars in the ground - a big gamble for the owners rebuilding The Mem as will the revenue streams be limited if fans don’t use our own facilities? What about the redeveloped Ashton Gate or redeveloped Hawthorns or anywhere else. Why’s it not a problem for other clubs to redevelop their urban based sites but it would be for us? Going to football is as much about the experience of the day not just the match and that in itself drives attendances. For me Gloucester Rd is part of the fun as it is for most of the people I go with. If we played in a bowl in the middle of Filton airfield the match day experience would be a lot diminished for lots of people. I don’t go to football to drink inflated price beer out of plastic glasses on a concrete concourse or to have to drive to it and spend an hour getting off the car park afterwards! That’s all well and good but I don’t think we can expect our owners to fork out millions on a fancy stadium redevelopment and the fans not play a part by diverting one of the potential income streams elsewhere. Our future doesn’t look bright if we can’t find a new site and Mem development is also then deemed not financially viable. |
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Post by singupgas on Sept 11, 2023 19:05:19 GMT
Season ticket card is going on the pitch next game. Had enough.
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Post by gashead79 on Sept 11, 2023 19:09:19 GMT
Bloody hell, you can’t just decide you want to buy peoples homes, there’s not a single chance in hell all would want to move home. 🤦🏾♀️ I meant over time as they became available. We've been there 26 years now and I'm pretty sure most if not all of them have changed hands in that time. Wouldn't know, although rightmove would provide insight. Liverpool did a bit of this but they are Liverpool and we are Bristol Rovers 🙁 |
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Post by eric on Sept 11, 2023 19:10:06 GMT
Season ticket card is going on the pitch next game. Had enough. Why make the effort of getting to the ground to do that? Will you watch a bit of the game first or just going to arrive, sling it on the pitch and then walk out? |
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Post by wallywalters on Sept 11, 2023 19:13:09 GMT
Season ticket card is going on the pitch next game. Had enough. Honestly this club makes you feel like doing that at times. How many more false dawn's can we have before one actually comes off. How will we ever believe another video release again 🤦 Well we've had 3 kicks in the balls of late so hopefully due a bit of good news soon. |
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Post by oviedista on Sept 11, 2023 19:13:46 GMT
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 11, 2023 19:15:34 GMT
I meant over time as they became available. We've been there 26 years now and I'm pretty sure most if not all of them have changed hands in that time. Wouldn't know, although rightmove would provide insight. Liverpool did a bit of this but they are Liverpool and we are Bristol Rovers 🙁 The club bought houses in the past at the Alton Rd end of the ground but sold them once we had pp for the UWE/Sainsbury's, given they were probably getting a decent rental income I'm not sure why we rushed to sell them until we had the Sainsbury's money in the bank, likewise why we didn't refresh the pp for the redeveloped Mem. |
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Post by bravosierraseven on Sept 11, 2023 19:19:04 GMT
Agreed that is not good but it's not what I was suggesting. |
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Post by jongas1 on Sept 11, 2023 19:22:49 GMT
Wouldn't know, although rightmove would provide insight. Liverpool did a bit of this but they are Liverpool and we are Bristol Rovers 🙁 The club bought houses in the past at the Alton Rd end of the ground but sold them once we had pp for the UWE/Sainsbury's, given they were probably getting a decent rental income I'm not sure why we rushed to sell them until we had the Sainsbury's money in the bank, likewise why we didn't refresh the pp for the redeveloped Mem. Did the club own them, or was it the former directors? I thought possibly the latter? |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 11, 2023 19:31:58 GMT
The latter but they bought them for the club?
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Post by gas2 on Sept 11, 2023 19:32:04 GMT
Strange that Marvin wants the fruit market to go ahead was it not him that move the arena out of town to filton ?
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Post by Jewson Gas on Sept 11, 2023 19:37:12 GMT
What about the redeveloped Ashton Gate or redeveloped Hawthorns or anywhere else. Why’s it not a problem for other clubs to redevelop their urban based sites but it would be for us? Going to football is as much about the experience of the day not just the match and that in itself drives attendances. For me Gloucester Rd is part of the fun as it is for most of the people I go with. If we played in a bowl in the middle of Filton airfield the match day experience would be a lot diminished for lots of people. I don’t go to football to drink inflated price beer out of plastic glasses on a concrete concourse or to have to drive to it and spend an hour getting off the car park afterwards! That’s all well and good but I don’t think we can expect our owners to fork out millions on a fancy stadium redevelopment and the fans not play a part by diverting one of the potential income streams elsewhere. Our future doesn’t look bright if we can’t find a new site and Mem development is also then deemed not financially viable. Every time I go in the supporters bar/Bristol bar they’re both full, I’m fairly sure if we had even bigger facilities with big screens we’d fill them too the club wouldn’t lose out. |
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Post by darkbluegas on Sept 11, 2023 19:38:17 GMT
I think that was pretty obvious when Wael and the new owner didn't last 5 mins in their first joint meeting with the planners and Conygar after the new owners arrived. Do you know this to be true, or is it a rumour? I haven't heard anything about the talks breaking down after 5 minutes. The talks didn't break down between planners, Conygar and any other interested parties, it was just that we didn't remain at them. Once it was obvious we wouldn't have the finance to take an active part we were off This was my post on the 11th August "Sounds like Hussain has had to break the bad news to Wael that he's got two Hopes of raising the finance for the Fruit Bat Arena and one of those is Bob Hope" |
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