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Post by wider on Sept 13, 2023 12:05:33 GMT
Spent 10 mins of my lunchtime looking at google maps aerial view of the Mem and surrounding roads. If we are seriously thinking of a 18-20K ground there, we know space isnt the problem. The problem is the surrounding houses, for impact and planning but also entrance and egress of twice as many supporters. Plus any non-match day events. Widening the access for one of the two roads behind the north stand would probably be needed. Meaning needing to but at least a couple of houses. There is no easy way to link the East/south to Muller Rd and re-opening the Alton Rd exit is probably an non-starter. Think this is why it will continue to be a non-starter. Unless we are happy with a 12-15K all seater with better facilities and losing money until we make the Prem! Sensible assessment - add on the problems with time restrictions blocking us from using any facilities we were to improve as well. Never going to be self sufficient. When the Al Qadis took over (for £1 don’t forget!) we were all but in administration. Now we are effectively in control of our destiny with a decent training ground and probably the best squad for 20 years. We are looking for a new ground and permission for a temporary stand till we find it. We aren’t wanted at The Mem by surrounding households and BCC aren’t exactly helping. However, we are still in existence and looking up (I hope!). I think the glass is half full after 62 years of hoping. I won’t believe a new stadium till I sit in it (which may never happen for me) but I’ll carry on hoping and supporting rather than moaning (I’m happier that way, says the wife!). |
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Post by gasandelectricity on Sept 13, 2023 12:12:39 GMT
Just because the neighbours kick off doesn’t mean we can’t develop the Mem site.
We’ve had countless applications approved over the years including a few full redevelopments.
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Post by madgas on Sept 13, 2023 12:24:05 GMT
The thing to me is that whilst the article that started this madness might have picked up on tone of negotiations it doesn't really say anything.
To play devil's advocate until this or another stadium is signed and delivered it would be madness for rovers to not continuously review options.
Let's say conygar were caught in a scandal all projects were frozen. The same doomers would be slating the governance for putting all eggs in one basket and not having a plan B.
The article itself is journalistically poor. Normally you would indicate whether you have approached the club for comment on such gossip. This is not included. Perhaps they might have contacted the developers. This isn't to dismiss the context completely but post should have better standards than this.
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Post by legas on Sept 13, 2023 13:40:59 GMT
The thing to me is that whilst the article that started this madness might have picked up on tone of negotiations it doesn't really say anything. To play devil's advocate until this or another stadium is signed and delivered it would be madness for rovers to not continuously review options. Let's say conygar were caught in a scandal all projects were frozen. The same doomers would be slating the governance for putting all eggs in one basket and not having a plan B. The article itself is journalistically poor. Normally you would indicate whether you have approached the club for comment on such gossip. This is not included. Perhaps they might have contacted the developers. This isn't to dismiss the context completely but post should have better standards than this. poor journalism from the BP? Surely not! |
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Post by percy on Sept 13, 2023 14:13:21 GMT
The thing to me is that whilst the article that started this madness might have picked up on tone of negotiations it doesn't really say anything. To play devil's advocate until this or another stadium is signed and delivered it would be madness for rovers to not continuously review options. Let's say conygar were caught in a scandal all projects were frozen. The same doomers would be slating the governance for putting all eggs in one basket and not having a plan B. The article itself is journalistically poor. Normally you would indicate whether you have approached the club for comment on such gossip. This is not included. Perhaps they might have contacted the developers. This isn't to dismiss the context completely but post should have better standards than this. poor journalism from the BP? Surely not! It is funny all the people happy JB was refusing to speak to them cos it was a terrible rag that just gets in stories from here, now believe every word printed on the FM story |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2023 14:23:07 GMT
The thing to me is that whilst the article that started this madness might have picked up on tone of negotiations it doesn't really say anything. To play devil's advocate until this or another stadium is signed and delivered it would be madness for rovers to not continuously review options. Let's say conygar were caught in a scandal all projects were frozen. The same doomers would be slating the governance for putting all eggs in one basket and not having a plan B. The article itself is journalistically poor. Normally you would indicate whether you have approached the club for comment on such gossip. This is not included. Perhaps they might have contacted the developers. This isn't to dismiss the context completely but post should have better standards than this. poor journalism from the BP? Surely not! In addition to the poor standard of journalism, spelling and grammar are also very poor. It's become a joke of a Newspaper, as have all regional rags owned by Reach PLC. Not fit to wipe ones backside with. |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Sept 13, 2023 14:35:24 GMT
Spent 10 mins of my lunchtime looking at google maps aerial view of the Mem and surrounding roads. If we are seriously thinking of a 18-20K ground there, we know space isnt the problem. The problem is the surrounding houses, for impact and planning but also entrance and egress of twice as many supporters. Plus any non-match day events. Widening the access for one of the two roads behind the north stand would probably be needed. Meaning needing to but at least a couple of houses. There is no easy way to link the East/south to Muller Rd and re-opening the Alton Rd exit is probably an non-starter. Think this is why it will continue to be a non-starter. Unless we are happy with a 12-15K all seater with better facilities and losing money until we make the Prem! Sensible assessment - add on the problems with time restrictions blocking us from using any facilities we were to improve as well. Never going to be self sufficient. When the Al Qadis took over (for £1 don’t forget!) we were all but in administration. Now we are effectively in control of our destiny with a decent training ground and probably the best squad for 20 years. We are looking for a new ground and permission for a temporary stand till we find it. We aren’t wanted at The Mem by surrounding households and BCC aren’t exactly helping. However, we are still in existence and looking up (I hope!). I think the glass is half full after 62 years of hoping. I won’t believe a new stadium till I sit in it (which may never happen for me) but I’ll carry on hoping and supporting rather than moaning (I’m happier that way, says the wife!). One pound ? Paid off all directors debts, which was a lot more than a quid. |
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Post by lastminutewinner on Sept 13, 2023 14:53:51 GMT
poor journalism from the BP? Surely not! It is funny all the people happy JB was refusing to speak to them cos it was a terrible rag that just gets in stories from here, now believe every word printed on the FM story Maybe as its the first thing in ages we have seen them print that wasn't already in the public domain. If not true though, the silence from the club is deafening.. |
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Post by pirate on Sept 13, 2023 14:54:09 GMT
poor journalism from the BP? Surely not! It is funny all the people happy JB was refusing to speak to them cos it was a terrible rag that just gets in stories from here, now believe every word printed on the FM story 48 hours is more than enough time to put out a simple statement refuting the claims and clarifying the latest and therefore quashing any noise and speculation to ease any concerns supporters might have regarding the new stadium, which is obviously of vital importance, as Wael says: "If we want to succeed, a new stadium has to happen." I know we have always been treated like mushrooms, kept in the dark and fed on sh**e, but the silence is deafening from the football club so we can only presume the article is accurate and the likely BS bait line about "tentative talks" with YTL Corporation is to keep the gullible pacified for another 6 or 7 years of likely inactivity and disappointment. |
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Post by matealotblue on Sept 13, 2023 14:56:00 GMT
poor journalism from the BP? Surely not! In addition to the poor standard of journalism, spelling and grammar are also very poor. It's become a joke of a Newspaper, as have all regional rags owned by Reach PLC. Not fit to wipe ones backside with. Got some “Green ‘uns” lying around somewhere…..can use them if you like. |
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Post by bravosierraseven on Sept 13, 2023 15:06:01 GMT
Just because the neighbours kick off doesn’t mean we can’t develop the Mem site. We’ve had countless applications approved over the years including a few full redevelopments. I would actually like to see that last Redevelopment plan submitted again but possibly with alternatives to the student accommodation. They would need to update a lot of the additional paperwork but they must have the original plans and they could even go for solar panels on the stand roofs with battery storage. It would be a real test of how much they appreciate the asset of community value. |
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Post by percy on Sept 13, 2023 15:25:05 GMT
And the Reading fiasco continues. Another 3pt deduction. Owners eh. Who'd have em
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Post by madgas on Sept 13, 2023 15:30:50 GMT
It is funny all the people happy JB was refusing to speak to them cos it was a terrible rag that just gets in stories from here, now believe every word printed on the FM story 48 hours is more than enough time to put out a simple statement refuting the claims and clarifying the latest and therefore quashing any noise and speculation to ease any concerns supporters might have regarding the new stadium, which is obviously of vital importance, as Wael says: "If we want to succeed, a new stadium has to happen." I know we have always been treated like mushrooms, kept in the dark and fed on sh**e, but the silence is deafening from the football club so we can only presume the article is accurate and the likely BS bait line about "tentative talks" with YTL Corporation is to keep the gullible pacified for another 6 or 7 years of likely inactivity and disappointment. Wow. So don't believe this one positive line. But believe the rest of the article 100%... illuminating perspective. |
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Post by pirate on Sept 13, 2023 15:37:48 GMT
48 hours is more than enough time to put out a simple statement refuting the claims and clarifying the latest and therefore quashing any noise and speculation to ease any concerns supporters might have regarding the new stadium, which is obviously of vital importance, as Wael says: "If we want to succeed, a new stadium has to happen." I know we have always been treated like mushrooms, kept in the dark and fed on sh**e, but the silence is deafening from the football club so we can only presume the article is accurate and the likely BS bait line about "tentative talks" with YTL Corporation is to keep the gullible pacified for another 6 or 7 years of likely inactivity and disappointment. Wow. So don't believe this one positive line. But believe the rest of the article 100%... illuminating perspective. We can only speculate as the club aren't communicating as per usual. |
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Post by percy on Sept 13, 2023 15:43:52 GMT
Might start an owner wishlist thread...
"This american multi billionaire caught the eye recently, one to watch"
"I posted 18 youtube clips on one post about this UAE based businessman 12 years ago, and look, he's just invested £300bn in Morecombe"
(yes I am bored of no football to discuss)
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Post by pirate on Sept 13, 2023 15:57:32 GMT
Might start an owner wishlist thread... "This american multi billionaire caught the eye recently, one to watch" "I posted 18 youtube clips on one post about this UAE based businessman 12 years ago, and look, he's just invested £300bn in Morecombe" (yes I am bored of no football to discuss) Meow I sense you're a little catty, did one of my replies touch a nerve? I know the truth hurts, but put the claws away! 🐈🤣 |
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Post by yattongas on Sept 13, 2023 15:58:37 GMT
Might start an owner wishlist thread... "This american multi billionaire caught the eye recently, one to watch" "I posted 18 youtube clips on one post about this UAE based businessman 12 years ago, and look, he's just invested £300bn in Morecombe" (yes I am bored of no football to discuss) 😂 |
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Post by bravosierraseven on Sept 13, 2023 16:00:47 GMT
Wow. So don't believe this one positive line. But believe the rest of the article 100%... illuminating perspective. We can only speculate as the club aren't communicating as per usual. I just wonder how James Piercy came by this information and why, having written this seemingly informed article, he doesn't seem to have approached the club for comment. |
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Post by pirate on Sept 13, 2023 16:04:06 GMT
We can only speculate as the club aren't communicating as per usual. I just wonder how James Piercy came by this information and why, having written this seemingly informed article, he doesn't seem to have approached the club for comment. Where do you think the "tentative talks" with YTL Corporation info came from? 🤔 |
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Post by bravosierraseven on Sept 13, 2023 16:13:09 GMT
I just wonder how James Piercy came by this information and why, having written this seemingly informed article, he doesn't seem to have approached the club for comment. Where do you think the "tentative talks" with YTL Corporation info came from? 🤔 Well I did consider the link with YTL but wasn't sure what the motive would be for spilling the beans unless he prefers an alternative plan for the Fruit Market. |
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