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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 9, 2022 19:21:22 GMT
Obviously if you get to play in the championship ,sell 13,000 plus season tickets. Average crowds around 20,000 in fancy new stands. Have conferences etc and big concerts at the stadium. If you do all this then the club is bound to be in profit....just like at Bristol city 1982ltd. City obviously work on the basis that billionaire Lansdown was prepared to write off millions each season, other clubs like Swansea and Rotherham some to cope OK. Although what's the real alternative, just stay at the Mem indefinitely until one of the stands are eventually declared unsafe? |
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Post by playtowin on Jul 9, 2022 20:59:43 GMT
Obviously if you get to play in the championship ,sell 13,000 plus season tickets. Average crowds around 20,000 in fancy new stands. Have conferences etc and big concerts at the stadium. If you do all this then the club is bound to be in profit....just like at Bristol city 1982ltd. City obviously work on the basis that billionaire Lansdown was prepared to write off millions each season, other clubs like Swansea and Rotherham some to cope OK. Although what's the real alternative, just stay at the Mem indefinitely until one of the stands are eventually declared unsafe? Thought that we shouldnt forget that a building is just a building. Its how a club is run from top to bottom and the driving forces that have the greatest affect on a club. If a great stadium alone brought success then Darlington would have been a premier league team instead of going bust. We tend to also overlook that BRFC did buy a stadium and build 4 new stands plus put a roof on another. So it could be argued we have done what other clubs have done...just much more poorly 😀 |
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Post by phillistine on Jul 9, 2022 22:00:16 GMT
interesting that The Mayor suddenly announces that Bristol has offered to host the next years Eurovision Song Contest. it seems that they can make a huge event like that happen but so far have been unable to assist Bristol Rovers in finding a stadium after many many years of trying
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Post by aghast on Jul 9, 2022 22:46:38 GMT
City obviously work on the basis that billionaire Lansdown was prepared to write off millions each season, other clubs like Swansea and Rotherham some to cope OK. Although what's the real alternative, just stay at the Mem indefinitely until one of the stands are eventually declared unsafe? Thought that we shouldnt forget that a building is just a building. Its how a club is run from top to bottom and the driving forces that have the greatest affect on a club. If a great stadium alone brought success then Darlington would have been a premier league team instead of going bust. We tend to also overlook that BRFC did buy a stadium and build 4 new stands plus put a roof on another. So it could be argued we have done what other clubs have done...just much more poorly 😀 Darlington are always used as some kind of proof that a new stadium isn't necessary, but they are the exception to he rule. |
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Post by aghast on Jul 9, 2022 22:51:53 GMT
interesting that The Mayor suddenly announces that Bristol has offered to host the next years Eurovision Song Contest. it seems that they can make a huge event like that happen but so far have been unable to assist Bristol Rovers in finding a stadium after many many years of trying Do you think Bristol City Council have some kind of responsibility to help us get a new stadium? I don't see it that way. There are two clubs in Bristol (so I'm told) and the council have to be impartial. It's up to Wael to find our new home, and he can't rely on BCC giving us special treatment. |
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Post by chippenhamgas on Jul 9, 2022 22:53:38 GMT
interesting that The Mayor suddenly announces that Bristol has offered to host the next years Eurovision Song Contest. it seems that they can make a huge event like that happen but so far have been unable to assist Bristol Rovers in finding a stadium after many many years of trying We have had planning permission for two stadiums, not the fault of the council we never built them. |
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Post by fintanstack on Jul 10, 2022 5:37:32 GMT
Not yet unless you want to pay for the privilege of listening to it! If no one contributes then these things just do not happen. It is not paying for the privilege of listening, it is supporting a content creator. |
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Post by Windmill Hill Gas on Jul 10, 2022 8:19:14 GMT
interesting that The Mayor suddenly announces that Bristol has offered to host the next years Eurovision Song Contest. it seems that they can make a huge event like that happen but so far have been unable to assist Bristol Rovers in finding a stadium after many many years of trying I was a bit confused by this. Isn't the Brabazon Hangar in South Glos? |
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Post by A Source (aka Angry Badger) on Jul 10, 2022 9:14:37 GMT
interesting that The Mayor suddenly announces that Bristol has offered to host the next years Eurovision Song Contest. it seems that they can make a huge event like that happen but so far have been unable to assist Bristol Rovers in finding a stadium after many many years of trying I see a few people have beat me 2 it. Apart from the potential fruit market where else in Bristol is there? Carson's road, UWE, not in Bristol. Avonmouth probably is but was that really suitable? Stadiums now are either rebuilds or out of the city/town boundaries. Feel free to name a place within Bristol? that's for all not just the poster |
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Post by hartcliffegas on Jul 10, 2022 10:11:59 GMT
Land either side of Goodneston Road Fishponds. Transport links an issue but it's an underused space in Rovers heartland
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 10, 2022 10:24:54 GMT
interesting that The Mayor suddenly announces that Bristol has offered to host the next years Eurovision Song Contest. it seems that they can make a huge event like that happen but so far have been unable to assist Bristol Rovers in finding a stadium after many many years of trying I was a bit confused by this. Isn't the Brabazon Hangar in South Glos? The hanger itself is within the city boundary, many of the access roads aren't though. When YTL applied for planning permission, it was with Bristol City Council but South Glos were involved in later stages because of the access iirc. |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jul 10, 2022 11:07:46 GMT
interesting that The Mayor suddenly announces that Bristol has offered to host the next years Eurovision Song Contest. it seems that they can make a huge event like that happen but so far have been unable to assist Bristol Rovers in finding a stadium after many many years of trying The council of Bristol have never turned us down. They have given pp and done what they can to assist, it’s the club that have messed up the rest |
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Post by playtowin on Jul 10, 2022 11:13:21 GMT
Thought that we shouldnt forget that a building is just a building. Its how a club is run from top to bottom and the driving forces that have the greatest affect on a club. If a great stadium alone brought success then Darlington would have been a premier league team instead of going bust. We tend to also overlook that BRFC did buy a stadium and build 4 new stands plus put a roof on another. So it could be argued we have done what other clubs have done...just much more poorly 😀 Darlington are always used as some kind of proof that a new stadium isn't necessary, but they are the exception to he rule. Chester city ? Chesterfield ? Rushden and diamonds ? Tier 2 and 3 perennials bristol rovers moved to a new stadium and went out of the football league. |
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Post by axegas on Jul 10, 2022 11:20:44 GMT
Darlington are always used as some kind of proof that a new stadium isn't necessary, but they are the exception to he rule. Chester city ? Chesterfield ? Rushden and diamonds ? Tier 2 and 3 perennials bristol rovers moved to a new stadium and went out of the football league. The mem was rebuilt in stages on a budget for a cash strapped rugby club and some of it was 10 years old by the time we had moved in. Saying we moved into a new stadium and went out of the football league (which happened 20 years later) is misleading at best. The difference between us and the clubs you mention in your post is that we’re from a big city, and could average crowds that wouldn’t look out of place in the championship with the right facilities, whereas those clubs will realistically never average more than 5000 at best. |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jul 10, 2022 11:29:43 GMT
Chester city ? Chesterfield ? Rushden and diamonds ? Tier 2 and 3 perennials bristol rovers moved to a new stadium and went out of the football league. The mem was rebuilt in stages on a budget for a cash strapped rugby club and some of it was 10 years old by the time we had moved in. Saying we moved into a new stadium and went out of the football league (which happened 20 years later) is misleading at best. The difference between us and the clubs you mention in your post is that we’re from a big city, and could average crowds that wouldn’t look out of place in the championship with the right facilities, whereas those clubs will realistically never average more than 5000 at best. When we have been playing dead rubbers or been doing poorly then the games have been poorly attended, hate to say it but much more so than the 82. We have only had sell outs when doing well. The SAG cut in people allowed hard made it a ballache to get a ticket when we have had season defining games. How many times did we sell out, prior to the attendance changes ? Not many. Let’s hope we start well and carry on in that vein as we know football is followed by fickle fans and we have had had some very low attendances when doing well, in the table but not playing attractive football. I think some are getting carried away and also that the lockdowns changed a lot of peoples opinions on getting out |
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Post by playtowin on Jul 10, 2022 11:35:14 GMT
Chester city ? Chesterfield ? Rushden and diamonds ? Tier 2 and 3 perennials bristol rovers moved to a new stadium and went out of the football league. The mem was rebuilt in stages on a budget for a cash strapped rugby club and some of it was 10 years old by the time we had moved in. Saying we moved into a new stadium and went out of the football league (which happened 20 years later) is misleading at best. The difference between us and the clubs you mention in your post is that we’re from a big city, and could average crowds that wouldn’t look out of place in the championship with the right facilities, whereas those clubs will realistically never average more than 5000 at best. But ,getting our own home back in bristol was the answer to our dreams. It meant we could move forward as a club . Destiny was in our own hands. When we moved into the Mem nobody would have thought we would have been playing conference football and running up big debts. The mere point i am making is a stadium does not mean success. Sunderland had a great new stadium and ended up stranded in league one for longer than their fans would have liked. They could bring in crowds we can only dream of. A shiny new stadium will be fantastic for rovers fans. It wont guarentee success though . The right people will bring a club success. Hopefully ,our current board and staff are those right people. |
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Post by seanclevedongas on Jul 10, 2022 12:29:55 GMT
New stadium is not only for footba!l its a game changer in the way of extra income from concerts etc We'd never get permission to hold concerts at a redeveloped Mem! What about the An Evening of Queen concert due last Sept that was cancelled when they realised it would disrupt the pitch? must have got permission for that? |
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Post by gasandelectricity on Jul 10, 2022 12:32:34 GMT
The mem was rebuilt in stages on a budget for a cash strapped rugby club and some of it was 10 years old by the time we had moved in. Saying we moved into a new stadium and went out of the football league (which happened 20 years later) is misleading at best. The difference between us and the clubs you mention in your post is that we’re from a big city, and could average crowds that wouldn’t look out of place in the championship with the right facilities, whereas those clubs will realistically never average more than 5000 at best. When we have been playing dead rubbers or been doing poorly then the games have been poorly attended, hate to say it but much more so than the 82. We have only had sell outs when doing well. The SAG cut in people allowed hard made it a ballache to get a ticket when we have had season defining games. How many times did we sell out, prior to the attendance changes ? Not many. Let’s hope we start well and carry on in that vein as we know football is followed by fickle fans and we have had had some very low attendances when doing well, in the table but not playing attractive football. I think some are getting carried away and also that the lockdowns changed a lot of peoples opinions on getting out You size your stadium for the sellouts not for the average attendances, the fact we sold out regularly last season and are already selling out for a season which hasn’t even started yet is an indication that in our current facilities we need more capacity. Typically new stadiums boost demand significantly too. We need a 20k+ stadium. To plan for anything less lacks ambition and you could argue just 20k is low in itself. Whilst a new stadium doesn’t guarantee success, and a lack of one doesn’t preclude it, if a club such as ours harbours ambitions of establishing itself in the championship they should be seeking to improve the facilities to accommodate it. |
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Post by daniel300380 on Jul 10, 2022 13:04:24 GMT
When we have been playing dead rubbers or been doing poorly then the games have been poorly attended, hate to say it but much more so than the 82. We have only had sell outs when doing well. The SAG cut in people allowed hard made it a ballache to get a ticket when we have had season defining games. How many times did we sell out, prior to the attendance changes ? Not many. Let’s hope we start well and carry on in that vein as we know football is followed by fickle fans and we have had had some very low attendances when doing well, in the table but not playing attractive football. I think some are getting carried away and also that the lockdowns changed a lot of peoples opinions on getting out You size your stadium for the sellouts not for the average attendances, the fact we sold out regularly last season and are already selling out for a season which hasn’t even started yet is an indication that in our current facilities we need more capacity. Typically new stadiums boost demand significantly too. We need a 20k+ stadium. To plan for anything less lacks ambition and you could argue just 20k is low in itself. Whilst a new stadium doesn’t guarantee success, and a lack of one doesn’t preclude it, if a club such as ours harbours ambitions of establishing itself in the championship they should be seeking to improve the facilities to accommodate it. Plus a new stadium or better facilities, bring in more fans. Look at City, did their average attendance stay the same, when they updated their stadium. Look at Swansea pre their new stadium and a lot of other clubs. |
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Post by baggins on Jul 10, 2022 13:14:53 GMT
You size your stadium for the sellouts not for the average attendances, the fact we sold out regularly last season and are already selling out for a season which hasn’t even started yet is an indication that in our current facilities we need more capacity. Typically new stadiums boost demand significantly too. We need a 20k+ stadium. To plan for anything less lacks ambition and you could argue just 20k is low in itself. Whilst a new stadium doesn’t guarantee success, and a lack of one doesn’t preclude it, if a club such as ours harbours ambitions of establishing itself in the championship they should be seeking to improve the facilities to accommodate it. Plus a new stadium or better facilities, bring in more fans. Look at City, did their average attendance stay the same, when they updated their stadium. Look at Swansea pre their new stadium and a lot of other clubs. We really need something, do up the Mem, get somewhere else, just something before the Ground falls apart. I've never been a "Wael get the cheque book out" sort of chap, but it's getting to the desperate stage. |
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