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Post by wallywalters on Nov 18, 2022 23:31:43 GMT
We've heard virtually nothing about anything from the owner for 3 years. Oh those days of interviews and media courting. After getting the fans hopes up only then to say absolutely bugger all for 3 yrs is an insult . I don’t care that some fans think this is ok , deals maybe or maybe not going on , confidentially etc etc . We have all spent thousands of pounds on this football club since wael last said anything tangible about a new stadium. Absolute bollocks to ndas and confidentiality agreements. The club have been hiding behind these for too long now. Its time to give the fans some kind of update if we're to be expected to continue to stand on dilapidated terraces with portacabins for toilets. If that's our lot then fine wel come to accept it but to stay silent is a disgrace and a slap in the face to all of us. NDA,s or not. |
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Post by percy on Nov 18, 2022 23:42:26 GMT
And? Yawn.
We aren’t supporting the team based on how much money is gonna be thrown around. Enjoy the football, be happy we exist. One day it may be more. But no point stressing
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Post by daniel300380 on Nov 18, 2022 23:52:26 GMT
But it sounds like things are still happening. The investors have not said that it's not going ahead. I expect a statement, when a decision has been made. It's not like we had COVID-19 and stuff in that time. It's not been in a normal 3 years and it's not been that long anyway, if you read the letters. We don't know if they will agree terms for a stadium, but it sounds like they are still looking into the project. So I doubt either party can talk about it. Do you really want an update saying it's out of our hands, but talks are ongoing etc etc etc. Business will be told Saying anything just to give us some hope is surely better than the total silence? They have always said they will continue to work on a stadium, until we get one. If they can't go into details, what else can they say?? |
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Post by chewbacca on Nov 19, 2022 0:56:57 GMT
Saying anything just to give us some hope is surely better than the total silence? They have always said they will continue to work on a stadium, until we get one. If they can't go into details, what else can they say?? Tbf they’ve said nothing for nearly 7 years. |
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Post by gas2 on Nov 19, 2022 6:13:53 GMT
Why is it so secret about that fruit market when its common knowledge what is going to happen to the whole area in st Philip ?
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Post by playtowin on Nov 19, 2022 7:48:58 GMT
So despite good crowds and a swanky stadium the Ashton gate sporting enterprise is losing crazy amounts of money. In theory both clubs should be making money and it should be a healthy business. Something is very wrong in football and rugby it seems. Those running the leagues are at fault and should be asked to account for how terrible a job they are doing. Followed by how are you going to stop this ridiculous situation. |
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Post by gas2 on Nov 19, 2022 10:37:59 GMT
They have always said they will continue to work on a stadium, until we get one. If they can't go into details, what else can they say?? Tbf they’ve said nothing for nearly 7 years. We are sick of hearing the sane message from the club about this action speaks louder than words |
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Post by wallywalters on Nov 19, 2022 10:59:20 GMT
And? Yawn. We aren’t supporting the team based on how much money is gonna be thrown around. Enjoy the football, be happy we exist. One day it may be more. But no point stressing And that attitude sums up perfectly why we have stagnated and some may say even regressed in the last 50 years. As Barton quite rightly says this club has been ran awfully and happy clappers content to have that attitude and not strive to drive the club forward is the reason we have some of the worst facilities in the football league. If your happy watering in portaloos whilst the red half of the city improve facilities year on year and attract more and more of the young support then fine. But I'm not happy with bullshit excuse after bullshit excuse as to why 3 years on we have had no update on our hunt for new facilities. And yes I will keep supporting the club wherever we play but please don't take us for fools and string us along. Honesty is the best policy. |
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Post by The Equaliser on Nov 19, 2022 11:09:01 GMT
And? Yawn. We aren’t supporting the team based on how much money is gonna be thrown around. Enjoy the football, be happy we exist. One day it may be more. But no point stressing And that attitude sums up perfectly why we have stagnated and some may say even regressed in the last 50 years. As Barton quite rightly says this club has been ran awfully and happy clappers content to have that attitude and not strive to drive the club forward is the reason we have some of the worst facilities in the football league. If your happy watering in portaloos whilst the red half of the city improve facilities year on year and attract more and more of the young support then fine. But I'm not happy with bullshit excuse after bullshit excuse as to why 3 years on we have had no update on our hunt for new facilities. And yes I will keep supporting the club wherever we play but please don't take us for fools and string us along. Honesty is the best policy. Joey criticised the way the team were being coached etc not the facilities, he actually praised the training facilities 👍🏾 |
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Post by daniel300380 on Nov 19, 2022 11:21:21 GMT
And that attitude sums up perfectly why we have stagnated and some may say even regressed in the last 50 years. As Barton quite rightly says this club has been ran awfully and happy clappers content to have that attitude and not strive to drive the club forward is the reason we have some of the worst facilities in the football league. If your happy watering in portaloos whilst the red half of the city improve facilities year on year and attract more and more of the young support then fine. But I'm not happy with bullshit excuse after bullshit excuse as to why 3 years on we have had no update on our hunt for new facilities. And yes I will keep supporting the club wherever we play but please don't take us for fools and string us along. Honesty is the best policy. Joey criticised the way the team were being coached etc not the facilities, he actually praised the training facilities 👍🏾 He has also praised the staff above him and I expect he knows a lot more than us and would be the first person to speak out, if they were doing nothing. That does not suit the agenda though🤣. So they will try and twist his words and ignore others. |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Nov 19, 2022 11:57:24 GMT
That is just bizarre. The football club is running at 210% and then we have the Rugby following suit. Incredible |
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Post by warehamgas on Nov 19, 2022 12:23:29 GMT
Joey criticised the way the team were being coached etc not the facilities, he actually praised the training facilities 👍🏾 He has also praised the staff above him and I expect he knows a lot more than us and would be the first person to speak out, if they were doing nothing. That does not suit the agenda though🤣. So they will try and twist his words and ignore others. You mean the people who gave him a shiny new contract for returning us to where we had been when he took over! 😉 I’m sure JB knows who to criticise and who not to, he knows which side his bread is buttered! Not a dig at you daniel, but the silence from the club regarding what is the most important issue in the future development of the club is, imo, very, very poor. I’m trying not to go ott but those leading the club are papering over the cracks, dealing with the little stuff, whatever analogy you want to adopt. We will continue to move around Leagues 1 and 2 until the ground issue is resolved. 😤 Looking forward to the footie this afternoon whatever. 👍 UTG! |
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Post by playtowin on Nov 19, 2022 12:45:34 GMT
For argument and conversations sake....
If Rovers were to build a new stand that would cost £15million . If the money was borrowed to pay for it over a 25 year term .
How would the new stand pay for itself ?
How much extra could be made to make its share of income towards running cost and the squad etc ?
You would be looking at bringing in £27,000 a match from the stand just to pay the loan. Every home league game for 25 years.
You would still need to raise the income the current east stand and terrace just to tread water. As we lose several million a year that money also would need to be paid for.
If the current east side holds a combined total of 4-5000 . Thats the minimum size stand to construct.
So really it needs to be 9-10,000.
Just to tread water unless EXTRA revenue streams are built in.
To cover the debts we would need £50,000 a week.
Its a big ask but is it achievable ?
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Post by A Source (aka Angry Badger) on Nov 19, 2022 12:58:16 GMT
Not sure if still the case but when the south stand was put in I thought it was profitable after a handful of games. Whatever the future plans surely this will stay for the foreseeable future. Eyesore yes, cost effective yes.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Nov 19, 2022 13:47:39 GMT
For argument and conversations sake.... If Rovers were to build a new stand that would cost £15million . If the money was borrowed to pay for it over a 25 year term . How would the new stand pay for itself ? How much extra could be made to make its share of income towards running cost and the squad etc ? You would be looking at bringing in £27,000 a match from the stand just to pay the loan. Every home league game for 25 years. You would still need to raise the income the current east stand and terrace just to tread water. As we lose several million a year that money also would need to be paid for. If the current east side holds a combined total of 4-5000 . Thats the minimum size stand to construct. So really it needs to be 9-10,000. Just to tread water unless EXTRA revenue streams are built in. To cover the debts we would need £50,000 a week. Its a big ask but is it achievable ? Except the clubs goals mean that it might be around for less than 10 years so multiply it by 2.5. If the club want to move anything permanent that involves knocking down the east or west stands aren’t feasible. North not much better. The only real options are where we have the tents but same problem of payback over a short expected lifetime. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 19, 2022 17:09:57 GMT
For argument and conversations sake.... If Rovers were to build a new stand that would cost £15million . If the money was borrowed to pay for it over a 25 year term . How would the new stand pay for itself ? How much extra could be made to make its share of income towards running cost and the squad etc ? You would be looking at bringing in £27,000 a match from the stand just to pay the loan. Every home league game for 25 years. You would still need to raise the income the current east stand and terrace just to tread water. As we lose several million a year that money also would need to be paid for. If the current east side holds a combined total of 4-5000 . Thats the minimum size stand to construct. So really it needs to be 9-10,000. Just to tread water unless EXTRA revenue streams are built in. To cover the debts we would need £50,000 a week. Its a big ask but is it achievable ? How are you calculating the £27K per match? If we increased ground capacity by 5K then that's at least an extra £100K per match (5,000 x £20) if we can continue to have sell out's. |
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Post by gasandelectricity on Nov 19, 2022 17:36:34 GMT
For argument and conversations sake.... If Rovers were to build a new stand that would cost £15million . If the money was borrowed to pay for it over a 25 year term . How would the new stand pay for itself ? How much extra could be made to make its share of income towards running cost and the squad etc ? You would be looking at bringing in £27,000 a match from the stand just to pay the loan. Every home league game for 25 years. You would still need to raise the income the current east stand and terrace just to tread water. As we lose several million a year that money also would need to be paid for. If the current east side holds a combined total of 4-5000 . Thats the minimum size stand to construct. So really it needs to be 9-10,000. Just to tread water unless EXTRA revenue streams are built in. To cover the debts we would need £50,000 a week. Its a big ask but is it achievable ? How are you calculating the £27K per match? If we increased ground capacity by 5K then that's at least an extra £100K per match (5,000 x £20) if we can continue to have sell out's. Can’t comment on how it’s calculated but by the time you’ve accounted for not selling out, concessions for the elderly and kids, complimentary tickets, itll be a long war from £100k a match |
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Post by fintanstack on Nov 19, 2022 18:39:59 GMT
Would you be happy if that was still the situation in 1,2,3,5 yrs time ? At what point do you think this is taking the pi55 ? Or are you happy to stay in limbo land for ever , out of interest? But it sounds like things are still happening. The investors have not said that it's not going ahead. I expect a statement, when a decision has been made. It's not like we had COVID-19 and stuff in that time. It's not been in a normal 3 years and it's not been that long anyway, if you read the letters. We don't know if they will agree terms for a stadium, but it sounds like they are still looking into the project. So I doubt either party can talk about it. Do you really want an update saying it's out of our hands, but talks are ongoing etc etc etc. Business will be told How does it sound like things are happening when the club has been silent for three years? You cannot use nothing happening as evidence of something happening, that is ridiculous. |
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Post by yattongas on Nov 19, 2022 18:57:32 GMT
But it sounds like things are still happening. The investors have not said that it's not going ahead. I expect a statement, when a decision has been made. It's not like we had COVID-19 and stuff in that time. It's not been in a normal 3 years and it's not been that long anyway, if you read the letters. We don't know if they will agree terms for a stadium, but it sounds like they are still looking into the project. So I doubt either party can talk about it. Do you really want an update saying it's out of our hands, but talks are ongoing etc etc etc. Business will be told How does it sound like things are happening when the club has been silent for three years? You cannot use nothing happening as evidence of something happening, that is ridiculous. This is the thing that does my nut, no news is good news ,things *might be happening behind the scenes , confidentially, nda’s etc etc …… this can be said for evermore whilst absolutely bugger all happens . Think it’s time we the fans started demanding a few answers. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 19, 2022 19:45:35 GMT
How does it sound like things are happening when the club has been silent for three years? You cannot use nothing happening as evidence of something happening, that is ridiculous. This is the thing that does my nut, no news is good news ,things *might be happening behind the scenes , confidentially, nda’s etc etc …… this can be said for evermore whilst absolutely bugger all happens . Think it’s time we the fans started demanding a few answers. Fans had the chance on Thursday but it sounds like nobody was that bothered to turn up and ask, as I posted a few posts back you have to sense that only a few of us want updates the vast majority couldn't careless, which probably explains why we never get any updates and we'll remain at the Mem until it falls down. |
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