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Post by fintanstack on Nov 19, 2022 20:47:09 GMT
This is the thing that does my nut, no news is good news ,things *might be happening behind the scenes , confidentially, nda’s etc etc …… this can be said for evermore whilst absolutely bugger all happens . Think it’s time we the fans started demanding a few answers. Fans had the chance on Thursday but it sounds like nobody was that bothered to turn up and ask, as I posted a few posts back you have to sense that only a few of us want updates the vast majority couldn't careless, which probably explains why we never get any updates and we'll remain at the Mem until it falls down. It may have already fallen down but it is such a shithole, no-one noticed. |
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Post by playtowin on Nov 20, 2022 9:26:20 GMT
For argument and conversations sake.... If Rovers were to build a new stand that would cost £15million . If the money was borrowed to pay for it over a 25 year term . How would the new stand pay for itself ? How much extra could be made to make its share of income towards running cost and the squad etc ? You would be looking at bringing in £27,000 a match from the stand just to pay the loan. Every home league game for 25 years. You would still need to raise the income the current east stand and terrace just to tread water. As we lose several million a year that money also would need to be paid for. If the current east side holds a combined total of 4-5000 . Thats the minimum size stand to construct. So really it needs to be 9-10,000. Just to tread water unless EXTRA revenue streams are built in. To cover the debts we would need £50,000 a week. Its a big ask but is it achievable ? How are you calculating the £27K per match? If we increased ground capacity by 5K then that's at least an extra £100K per match (5,000 x £20) if we can continue to have sell out's. Assuming the extra 5000 were All sold every game for the next 25 years at full adult price. That total income would probably cover the couple of million we are losing currently each year. Wont cover the building costs though. If the 5000 all bought food and drink and products that created at least £6 profit for the club every game for 25 years that might cover the build costs...but there is still the new running costs to cover. We also know the stand is unlikely to sell out every game (without affecting other areas of the grounds usual numbers). So there has to be more income streams from the stand for 52 weeks of the year. Those will be key to whether its viable to build a new east stand.After all the idea is to not just cover costs but increase the playing budget. |
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Post by yattongas on Nov 20, 2022 9:40:09 GMT
Fans had the chance on Thursday but it sounds like nobody was that bothered to turn up and ask, as I posted a few posts back you have to sense that only a few of us want updates the vast majority couldn't careless, which probably explains why we never get any updates and we'll remain at the Mem until it falls down. It may have already fallen down but it is such a shithole, no-one noticed. The Mem was once a 45,000 all seater stadium, what you see today is just the remnants. |
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Post by Sir Trevor on Nov 22, 2022 8:37:18 GMT
Make of this what you will.
"We .............. are in advanced discussions with potential investors in connection with further commercial and residential developments and would hope to make announcements in that respect over the coming months."
A very selective quotation from the Conygar Investments Preliminary Results @22/11/2022.
It might, or might not, be specifically related to the Island Quarter plans in Nottingham.
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Post by BrightonGas on Nov 22, 2022 10:45:00 GMT
Make of this what you will. "We .............. are in advanced discussions with potential investors in connection with further commercial and residential developments and would hope to make announcements in that respect over the coming months." A very selective quotation from the Conygar Investments Preliminary Results @22/11/2022. It might, or might not, be specifically related to the Island Quarter plans in Nottingham. Perhaps the full quote would help answer your question! 😉 Not Rovers related!! Approximately 190,000 square feet of bioscience space is being proposed for Nottingham’s Island Quarter development. Developer, Conygar has revealed that it is currently finalising a detailed planning application, and is progressing discussions with a potential funding partner, for the space. It expects to submit the application in the coming weeks. The building will include both laboratory and office space, as well as conference facilities and car parking and be located adjacent to an existing bioscience hub. Conygar added: “We continue to progress the detailed designs for subsequent phases and are in advanced discussions with potential investors in connection with further commercial and residential developments and would hope to make announcements in that respect over the coming months.” |
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Post by heartofgas on Nov 22, 2022 13:44:54 GMT
For argument and conversations sake.... If Rovers were to build a new stand that would cost £15million . If the money was borrowed to pay for it over a 25 year term . How would the new stand pay for itself ? How much extra could be made to make its share of income towards running cost and the squad etc ? You would be looking at bringing in £27,000 a match from the stand just to pay the loan. Every home league game for 25 years. You would still need to raise the income the current east stand and terrace just to tread water. As we lose several million a year that money also would need to be paid for. If the current east side holds a combined total of 4-5000 . Thats the minimum size stand to construct. So really it needs to be 9-10,000. Just to tread water unless EXTRA revenue streams are built in. To cover the debts we would need £50,000 a week. Its a big ask but is it achievable ? Doesn't the FA give grants for new build stands? Also, you may encourage more sponsorship. I could never understand why we didn't look at doing this ages ago. I guess you'd have the usual planning permission stuff to go through and all the Nimbys thinking up ways to stop it happening. |
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Post by singupgas on Nov 22, 2022 15:25:25 GMT
This is the thing that does my nut, no news is good news ,things *might be happening behind the scenes , confidentially, nda’s etc etc …… this can be said for evermore whilst absolutely bugger all happens . Think it’s time we the fans started demanding a few answers. Fans had the chance on Thursday but it sounds like nobody was that bothered to turn up and ask, as I posted a few posts back you have to sense that only a few of us want updates the vast majority couldn't careless, which probably explains why we never get any updates and we'll remain at the Mem until it falls down. Does annoy me that some fans are happy we have a ground at all. The Mem is holding us back big time. It is an embarrassment. Add to this we are now reducing the capacity with every safety measure, it really damages the club. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2022 15:36:09 GMT
For argument and conversations sake.... If Rovers were to build a new stand that would cost £15million . If the money was borrowed to pay for it over a 25 year term . How would the new stand pay for itself ? How much extra could be made to make its share of income towards running cost and the squad etc ? You would be looking at bringing in £27,000 a match from the stand just to pay the loan. Every home league game for 25 years. You would still need to raise the income the current east stand and terrace just to tread water. As we lose several million a year that money also would need to be paid for. If the current east side holds a combined total of 4-5000 . Thats the minimum size stand to construct. So really it needs to be 9-10,000. Just to tread water unless EXTRA revenue streams are built in. To cover the debts we would need £50,000 a week. Its a big ask but is it achievable ? Doesn't the FA give grants for new build stands? Also, you may encourage more sponsorship. I could never understand why we didn't look at doing this ages ago. I guess you'd have the usual planning permission stuff to go through and all the Nimbys thinking up ways to stop it happening. Looks like the scheme has been taken over by the Premier League. www.premierleague.com/communities/programmes/community-programmes/premier-league-stadium-fundThe Stadium Fund takes on the existing work of the Football Stadia Improvement Fund, through which the League has provided more than 5,200 grants worth over £177m to support the development of stadiums and fan-engagement projects at all levels of the game. |
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Post by casey12a on Nov 22, 2022 16:35:11 GMT
What will our capacity at the mem be when Joey gets us in the championship next season?
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Post by skin01 on Nov 22, 2022 16:37:25 GMT
Drove past the UWE site this morning.
Still empty
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Post by percy on Nov 22, 2022 16:47:07 GMT
Joey keeps talking about what he is building, the legacy, Sinclair scoring a hatrick to get us into the Prem!
No way he believes this without at least an expansion to the mem, or (more likely) a new ground
Shirley?
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Post by ashlinggas on Nov 22, 2022 16:54:13 GMT
If you read the Stadium Grant criteria to the bottom it says you have to be lower league Step 1 (National League) to Step 6 (County Leagues?) Is there a different source for EFL teams or have I misunderstood?
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Post by harlaxtonblue on Nov 28, 2022 10:42:42 GMT
I was just looking at some photos of Boston Utd ground , a localish team to me , I do struggle to understand how they can build something like they have , small town , crowds, yet we can’t ,
Hopefully one day
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Post by ifollowgas on Nov 28, 2022 11:50:08 GMT
Drove past the UWE site this morning. Still empty £30m + money from the sale of the Memorial Ground would buy a decent stadium on the excellent UWE plot that would secure Rovers' future as a tier 2-3 club for the next 100 years or more. It should have happened 5 years ago. It's still the most feasible opportunity by far that the club has ever had or likely to have. But it won't happen because the Al Qadi's would probably not see a return on their investment when they sell the club. Alternative plans? Investors? They don't have any, just infeasible fantasies to pacify the long-suffering fans. |
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Post by baggins on Nov 28, 2022 11:57:00 GMT
Drove past the UWE site this morning. Still empty £30m + money from the sale of the Memorial Ground would buy a decent stadium on the excellent UWE plot that would secure Rovers' future as a tier 2-3 club for the next 100 years or more. It should have happened 5 years ago. It's still the most feasible opportunity by far that the club has ever had or likely to have. But it won't happen because the Al Qadi's would probably not see a return on their investment when they sell the club. Alternative plans? Investors? They don't have any, just infeasible fantasies to pacify the long-suffering fans. Ok. |
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Post by eric on Nov 28, 2022 13:53:11 GMT
Drove past the UWE site this morning. Still empty £30m + money from the sale of the Memorial Ground would buy a decent stadium on the excellent UWE plot that would secure Rovers' future as a tier 2-3 club for the next 100 years or more. It should have happened 5 years ago. It's still the most feasible opportunity by far that the club has ever had or likely to have. But it won't happen because the Al Qadi's would probably not see a return on their investment when they sell the club. Alternative plans? Investors? They don't have any, just infeasible fantasies to pacify the long-suffering fans. How do you know it was a feasible opportunity? Issues with the unrealistic UWE demands on the non matchday revenue streams as far as I recall. Not sure a future as a tier 2-3 club could have been guaranteed if we were getting too small a share of total revenues. |
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Post by baggins on Nov 28, 2022 13:55:05 GMT
£30m + money from the sale of the Memorial Ground would buy a decent stadium on the excellent UWE plot that would secure Rovers' future as a tier 2-3 club for the next 100 years or more. It should have happened 5 years ago. It's still the most feasible opportunity by far that the club has ever had or likely to have. But it won't happen because the Al Qadi's would probably not see a return on their investment when they sell the club. Alternative plans? Investors? They don't have any, just infeasible fantasies to pacify the long-suffering fans. How do you know it was a feasible opportunity? Issues with the unrealistic UWE demands on the non matchday revenue streams as far as I recall. Not sure a future as a tier 2-3 club could have been guaranteed if we were getting too small a share of total revenues. Ignore him. |
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Post by baggins on Nov 28, 2022 14:59:30 GMT
4 or 5 new Posters in the last 24 hours, anyone else find this a bit odd?
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Post by daniel300380 on Nov 28, 2022 15:08:51 GMT
£30m + money from the sale of the Memorial Ground would buy a decent stadium on the excellent UWE plot that would secure Rovers' future as a tier 2-3 club for the next 100 years or more. It should have happened 5 years ago. It's still the most feasible opportunity by far that the club has ever had or likely to have. But it won't happen because the Al Qadi's would probably not see a return on their investment when they sell the club. Alternative plans? Investors? They don't have any, just infeasible fantasies to pacify the long-suffering fans. How do you know it was a feasible opportunity? Issues with the unrealistic UWE demands on the non matchday revenue streams as far as I recall. Not sure a future as a tier 2-3 club could have been guaranteed if we were getting too small a share of total revenues. Everyone knows a football club wants lecture halls, a jogging track, uni bar, uni gym and to give away naming rights🤣. The uni were not interested in any of that stuff. The plans were basically a uni building with a football pitch in the middle. Those that don't like Wael make out it was a great deal for the club, they say where is your proof that it wasn't a good deal etc. Anyone that could read the plans and listened to the interviews could see that uwe were getting the better end of the deal. If it was good for the club, the club would have been worth more, if they sold it anyway. Don't get their logic, that it was great for the club, but not for the owners. |
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Post by darkbluegas on Nov 28, 2022 15:18:02 GMT
4 or 5 new Posters in the last 24 hours, anyone else find this a bit odd? It's probably just dawned on another 5 fans that we play in one of the worst stadiums in the league and the embarrassment has become too much for them |
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