yattongas
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Post by yattongas on Dec 21, 2022 15:36:33 GMT
Suited people at the Club? Care to expand on that? I think if the club had said it was dead in the water when it was two years ago it would have quite a demoralising effect. When I knew it was not happening it certainly effected my views. Better to let it drift on as a possible rather than bring the issue to a head when the owner didn't feel he was in a financial position to make the next move Have you any actual evidence for this ? |
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Post by Jomo on Dec 21, 2022 15:49:39 GMT
I think if the club had said it was dead in the water when it was two years ago it would have quite a demoralising effect. When I knew it was not happening it certainly effected my views. Better to let it drift on as a possible rather than bring the issue to a head when the owner didn't feel he was in a financial position to make the next move Have you any actual evidence for this ? Evidence schmevidence! |
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 21, 2022 15:59:39 GMT
I don't feel that JB would be making statements about trying to be the first bristol team in the premier league if he didnt have faith we would have a stadium up to standard. As thats not just getting league one promotion thats not just staying up in the championship. Its getting promoted . Thats a massive distance from a league two club in a 1980s stadium. Where we were last season. Something is happening , we just dont know where ,when and how ! If we were in talks with developers do you really think JB is planning on still being our manager when we've gone through planning, financing the build and then building the stadium, all of which could take up to a decade even without too many major issues such as JR's? |
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Post by baggins on Dec 21, 2022 16:23:59 GMT
Suited people at the Club? Care to expand on that? I think if the club had said it was dead in the water when it was two years ago it would have quite a demoralising effect. When I knew it was not happening it certainly effected my views. Better to let it drift on as a possible rather than bring the issue to a head when the owner didn't feel he was in a financial position to make the next move You knww it wasn't happening 2 years ago? Really. And I'll ask again, how did it suit the Club? |
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Post by aghast on Dec 21, 2022 16:56:37 GMT
I think if the club had said it was dead in the water when it was two years ago it would have quite a demoralising effect. When I knew it was not happening it certainly effected my views. Better to let it drift on as a possible rather than bring the issue to a head when the owner didn't feel he was in a financial position to make the next move You knww it wasn't happening 2 years ago? Really. And I'll ask again, how did it suit the Club? You honestly can't see how it would be convenient for Wael to just keep schtum rather than release some rather unfortunate news? |
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Post by Wembley_Gas on Dec 21, 2022 17:08:30 GMT
On Christmas Eve Wael will be visited by the spirit of his first partner in the takeover of the club. Hamer will employ landing lights to introduce to WAQ the Spirits of Stadiums past, the spirit of the tent Stadium of the Present and the Spirit of stadiums yet to come. The first spirit will arrive one o clock Christmas Day, the second will arrive at 2 and the third will arrive at 3 on Christmas Day …2105 claiming he had to wait until the future stadium was within 100 years of being built!
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Post by eric on Dec 21, 2022 17:12:27 GMT
You knww it wasn't happening 2 years ago? Really. And I'll ask again, how did it suit the Club? You honestly can't see how it would be convenient for Wael to just keep schtum rather than release some rather unfortunate news? Regardless of the convenience debate, it would be nice to know how darkbluegas knew it wasn’t happening two years ago. Where did he get that info? Unless there is something to back it up I’m inclined to think that bit was made up. |
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Post by baggins on Dec 21, 2022 17:25:46 GMT
You knww it wasn't happening 2 years ago? Really. And I'll ask again, how did it suit the Club? You honestly can't see how it would be convenient for Wael to just keep schtum rather than release some rather unfortunate news? What news? You've heard news? Go on then. |
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Post by playtowin on Dec 21, 2022 17:49:59 GMT
I don't feel that JB would be making statements about trying to be the first bristol team in the premier league if he didnt have faith we would have a stadium up to standard. As thats not just getting league one promotion thats not just staying up in the championship. Its getting promoted . Thats a massive distance from a league two club in a 1980s stadium. Where we were last season. Something is happening , we just dont know where ,when and how ! If we were in talks with developers do you really think JB is planning on still being our manager when we've gone through planning, financing the build and then building the stadium, all of which could take up to a decade even without too many major issues such as JR's? Just for arguments sake. If JB has his eyes on the prem ,how long do you think that would take ? If everything went to plan...maybe five years minimum. Depending on how far down the road the club already are is quite feasible. For example. Wael announces on jan 1st that rovers have agreed a deal to purchase land at Lyde green. Plans have been drawn up and will go on public display for consultation from 5th january. The financong of the stadium is in place. Planning permission will be applied for before the end of the month. Construction companies have been appointed and will comence work once permission is granted. Should everything go to schedule works should begin on july 1st 2023. With completion being in time for the 2024/25 season. |
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Post by gasandelectricity on Dec 21, 2022 17:54:34 GMT
I think we’re looking at 5 years from planning going in, particularly if the Fruit Market is the site.
Somewhere else maybe a little quicker especially if somewhere like Lyde Green.
I expect if we’re to get a new stadium it’ll be at the FM though.
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Post by daniel300380 on Dec 21, 2022 18:10:08 GMT
Suited people at the Club? Care to expand on that? I think if the club had said it was dead in the water when it was two years ago it would have quite a demoralising effect. When I knew it was not happening it certainly effected my views. Better to let it drift on as a possible rather than bring the issue to a head when the owner didn't feel he was in a financial position to make the next move Who said it was dead 2 years ago and how did they know? The company were still looking into going ahead with the project in July of this year, although we don't know if that included a stadium or not. How do you know what the project includes??! |
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Post by womble on Dec 23, 2022 13:26:52 GMT
In the New Year the council will be consulting on a development framework for the Temple Meads Enterprise Zone. Below is the St Phillips Marsh area.  As can be seen, area 2 which includes the Fruit Market, is zoned to include a potential new sports stadium. Will the cash strapped council be building one? Absolutely not, especially in a two club city. We can probably conclude that informal talks have taken place, and any developer wishing to provide a stadium will be pushing at an open door. However, this is where we get to our perennial problem. We need both land and finance. We have never managed to achieve both, as the partner providing one or the other, has always failed to deliver. |
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Post by gasheadbatesy on Dec 23, 2022 13:32:37 GMT
In the New Year the council will be consulting on a development framework for the Temple Meads Enterprise Zone. Below is the St Phillips Marsh area. As can be seen, area 2 which includes the Fruit Market, is zoned to include a potential new sports stadium. Will the cash strapped council be building one? Absolutely not, especially in a two club city. We can probably conclude that informal talks have taken place, and any developer wishing to provide a stadium will be pushing at an open door. However, this is where we get to our perennial problem. We need both land and finance. We have never managed to achieve both, as the partner providing one or the other, has always failed to deliver. So something might be happening? |
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Post by womble on Dec 23, 2022 13:43:52 GMT
So something might be happening? Your guess is as good as mine. The potential is there, as ever money is likely to be our problem. |
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Post by baggins on Dec 23, 2022 13:53:59 GMT
So something might be happening? Your guess is as good as mine. The potential is there, as ever money is likely to be our problem. I thought money was the least of our problems? Somewhere to build it and planning permission is though. |
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Post by womble on Dec 23, 2022 13:59:56 GMT
Your guess is as good as mine. The potential is there, as ever money is likely to be our problem. I thought money was the least of our problems? Somewhere to build it and planning permission is though. Somewhere might be a problem, but as I've said before, neither City or Rovers have ever had a planning application turned down by BCC. |
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Post by baggins on Dec 23, 2022 14:09:49 GMT
I thought money was the least of our problems? Somewhere to build it and planning permission is though. Somewhere might be a problem, but as I've said before, neither City or Rovers have ever had a planning application turned down by BCC. True. Lyde Green would do us just fine, but that's GCC isn't it? |
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Post by stuart1974 on Dec 23, 2022 14:19:58 GMT
Don't think land is an issue at least not yet. I think BCC and Rovers are still looking at the Fruit Market as Plan A. It's still glacial progress though, whatever the complexities are.
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Post by gashead4ever on Dec 23, 2022 14:24:12 GMT
incoming anti climax and Premature ejaculation
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Post by gasandelectricity on Dec 23, 2022 14:37:59 GMT
How can you turn something like that into a negative of we don’t have no cash and we don’t have no land.
We’ve been talking about the Fruit Market site for years and now there’s proof it’s still on as it’s in the master plan, at the very site we’ve been discussing for years.
Do we need planning if this master plan has a potential new stadium in it?
Whilst it’s worded anti climatically I’m sure it needs to be as otherwise the council will receive flack if it doesn’t make it to fruition (excuse the non deliberate pun)
It’s happening people.
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