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Post by heartofgas on Sept 23, 2023 22:52:39 GMT
The only thing we know from the post is we walked away from talks. I guess we will each interpret differently how likely it is one side will have a change of heart. If it is true then I think it's very unlikely the FM will happen. Rovers may have halted talks and left the meeting as they needed to examine the issues more or seek advice. It doesnt have to mean we threw a strop and stormed off saying its over. I think you have misunderstood my point. No one, including the BP have said it is officially off. The BP said we had walked away from talks. Now that could be true or not. If it is true though I would think it is unlikely we will meet agreement. As before anyone walks away I imagine there are a number of rounds of meetings where these things are attempted to be thrashed out with either sides having red lines If it is a negotiation ploy by the club then it's a big gamble that the other party would fold. But who knows if it's true or not. I would say the club's silence is probably so they don't burn any bridges. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 24, 2023 8:02:57 GMT
Let's face it, it seems likely the FM deal has probably been dead for months as given how little has been spent on the Mem since we bought the ground it always seemed odd to spend £m's building a new stand, just when the club was apparently going to announce a deal to move to a new ground.
The only hope was that the Mem capacity was being increased so we kept those fans with us when we moved to the FM, but I'm sure we could have erected cheaper new bigger "tents" than the impressive looking new stand now being built.
I sense the next thing we'll hear from the club is about further plans to develop the Mem rather than anything regarding the FM.
Was GasburnerUTG's tweets regarding interviewing TG all just a hoax in order to build up follower numbers on X/Twitter?
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Post by gasandelectricity on Sept 24, 2023 8:16:12 GMT
Let's face it, it seems likely the FM deal has probably been dead for months as given how little has been spent on the Mem since we bought the ground it always seemed odd to spend £m's building a new stand, just when the club was apparently going to announce a deal to move to a new ground. The only hope was that the Mem capacity was being increased so we kept those fans with us when we moved to the FM, but I'm sure we could have erected cheaper new bigger "tents" than the impressive looking new stand now being built. I sense the next thing we'll hear from the club is about further plans to develop the Mem rather than anything regarding the FM. Was GasburnerUTG's tweets regarding interviewing TG all just a hoax in order to build up follower numbers on X/Twitter? Not necessarily if the stand paid back in the construction period for the new stadium. Don't forget the stand was being planned back when they released the stupid video for the new stadium which months later looks like it isn't happening. |
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Post by gashead79 on Sept 24, 2023 8:25:17 GMT
I'd be happily prepared to eat sh** if they pull this one off but after everything my faith in their ability to do so is staggeringly low. Get yourself a spoon Or not.☹️ |
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Post by wallywalters on Sept 24, 2023 9:30:18 GMT
Let's face it, it seems likely the FM deal has probably been dead for months as given how little has been spent on the Mem since we bought the ground it always seemed odd to spend £m's building a new stand, just when the club was apparently going to announce a deal to move to a new ground. The only hope was that the Mem capacity was being increased so we kept those fans with us when we moved to the FM, but I'm sure we could have erected cheaper new bigger "tents" than the impressive looking new stand now being built. I sense the next thing we'll hear from the club is about further plans to develop the Mem rather than anything regarding the FM. Was GasburnerUTG's tweets regarding interviewing TG all just a hoax in order to build up follower numbers on X/Twitter? The gas burner thing is a strange one. They have been called out on x for being a hoax but have defended themselves saying they are doing things the right way and it isn't easy sitting on information that is basically gold dust to gas fans. If it isnt a hoax then they have clearly been told by the club not to release the interview until further notice so the club can release something official. But that places a lot of trust from the club in the person they gave the Interview too. Makes you wonder if gas burner is actually someone inside the club. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 24, 2023 9:35:54 GMT
If it's not a hoax I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't TG or somebody working for him, as it's odd they are constantly reposting just Rovers related tweets, doing that must be almost a full time job in itself?
If it's 100% genuine then why did TG let him interview him in the first place.
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Post by singupgas on Sept 24, 2023 10:17:20 GMT
Let's face it, it seems likely the FM deal has probably been dead for months as given how little has been spent on the Mem since we bought the ground it always seemed odd to spend £m's building a new stand, just when the club was apparently going to announce a deal to move to a new ground. The only hope was that the Mem capacity was being increased so we kept those fans with us when we moved to the FM, but I'm sure we could have erected cheaper new bigger "tents" than the impressive looking new stand now being built. I sense the next thing we'll hear from the club is about further plans to develop the Mem rather than anything regarding the FM. Was GasburnerUTG's tweets regarding interviewing TG all just a hoax in order to build up follower numbers on X/Twitter? If the FM does happen it we won't be in it for 5 years maybe?? I am looking at the squad of players being assembled, it looks to me like we are having a good go at promotion with the money spent. If we made it to the championship this year or next, with the new south stand we would have something more respectable in place, it will also boost the capacity. Promotion with all the sponsorship and increased coverage would go some way to paying for the stand aswell. Really do see it as something to see us through for next few years. |
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Post by heartofgas on Sept 24, 2023 11:28:03 GMT
Let's face it, it seems likely the FM deal has probably been dead for months as given how little has been spent on the Mem since we bought the ground it always seemed odd to spend £m's building a new stand, just when the club was apparently going to announce a deal to move to a new ground. The only hope was that the Mem capacity was being increased so we kept those fans with us when we moved to the FM, but I'm sure we could have erected cheaper new bigger "tents" than the impressive looking new stand now being built. I sense the next thing we'll hear from the club is about further plans to develop the Mem rather than anything regarding the FM. Was GasburnerUTG's tweets regarding interviewing TG all just a hoax in order to build up follower numbers on X/Twitter? The gas burner thing is a strange one. They have been called out on x for being a hoax but have defended themselves saying they are doing things the right way and it isn't easy sitting on information that is basically gold dust to gas fans. If it isnt a hoax then they have clearly been told by the club not to release the interview until further notice so the club can release something official. But that places a lot of trust from the club in the person they gave the Interview too. Makes you wonder if gas burner is actually someone inside the club. There is no way the club would give that information to someone on trust. If they have been told something in confidence then that must have come with an NDA. Seems bizzare they would say something about it in the first place though. Seems attention seeking to me |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 24, 2023 11:32:46 GMT
Let's face it, it seems likely the FM deal has probably been dead for months as given how little has been spent on the Mem since we bought the ground it always seemed odd to spend £m's building a new stand, just when the club was apparently going to announce a deal to move to a new ground. The only hope was that the Mem capacity was being increased so we kept those fans with us when we moved to the FM, but I'm sure we could have erected cheaper new bigger "tents" than the impressive looking new stand now being built. I sense the next thing we'll hear from the club is about further plans to develop the Mem rather than anything regarding the FM. Was GasburnerUTG's tweets regarding interviewing TG all just a hoax in order to build up follower numbers on X/Twitter? If the FM does happen it we won't be in it for 5 years maybe?? I am looking at the squad of players being assembled, it looks to me like we are having a good go at promotion with the money spent. If we made it to the championship this year or next, with the new south stand we would have something more respectable in place, it will also boost the capacity. Promotion with all the sponsorship and increased coverage would go some way to paying for the stand aswell. Really do see it as something to see us through for next few years. Can't see it myself, I would have thought if we just wanted to increase capacity we could have done it a lot cheaper, the impressive looking stand looks like it could last for decades not just for 5 or so years. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 24, 2023 11:35:09 GMT
The gas burner thing is a strange one. They have been called out on x for being a hoax but have defended themselves saying they are doing things the right way and it isn't easy sitting on information that is basically gold dust to gas fans. If it isnt a hoax then they have clearly been told by the club not to release the interview until further notice so the club can release something official. But that places a lot of trust from the club in the person they gave the Interview too. Makes you wonder if gas burner is actually someone inside the club. There is no way the club would give that information to someone on trust. If they have been told something in confidence then that must have come with an NDA. Seems bizzare they would say something about it in the first place though. Seems attention seeking to me I doubt an NDA would hold much weight with a random twitter account holder, the club couldn't really do a lot if they broke the NDA. |
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Post by gasandelectricity on Sept 24, 2023 12:40:08 GMT
If we’re serious about getting to championship we’ll need to have facilities ready in the next three years. If we don’t have solid plans for moving elsewhere we need a back up plan either way to ensure that the Mem is all seater in time.
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Post by seanclevedongas on Sept 24, 2023 13:07:45 GMT
The gas burner thing is a strange one. They have been called out on x for being a hoax but have defended themselves saying they are doing things the right way and it isn't easy sitting on information that is basically gold dust to gas fans. If it isnt a hoax then they have clearly been told by the club not to release the interview until further notice so the club can release something official. But that places a lot of trust from the club in the person they gave the Interview too. Makes you wonder if gas burner is actually someone inside the club. There is no way the club would give that information to someone on trust. If they have been told something in confidence then that must have come with an NDA. Seems bizzare they would say something about it in the first place though. Seems attention seeking to me My thoughts on this are:- Gas Burner did have the interview Tom asked them not to publish because a statement from the club is due The club are currently drawing up the plans for the Mem refurbishment and want to include them in the statement It's quite clear looking at the structure and vastness of the new stand that it is pretty permanent I'm expecting the East stand to be next followed by the Thatchers end |
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Post by percy on Sept 24, 2023 13:16:50 GMT
There is no way the club would give that information to someone on trust. If they have been told something in confidence then that must have come with an NDA. Seems bizzare they would say something about it in the first place though. Seems attention seeking to me My thoughts on this are:- Gas Burner did have the interview Tom asked them not to publish because a statement from the club is due The club are currently drawing up the plans for the Mem refurbishment and want to include them in the statement It's quite clear looking at the structure and vastness of the new stand that it is pretty permanent I'm expecting the East stand to be next followed by the Thatchers end Don’t disagree but the plans were in for the south stand BEFORE we released the FM video (i believe) Thatchers almost certainly will be next as we don’t lose any seating whilst that is being rebuilt. East stand will be the biggest build and need a good 5-6k north end before we can start. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 24, 2023 14:28:48 GMT
There is no way the club would give that information to someone on trust. If they have been told something in confidence then that must have come with an NDA. Seems bizzare they would say something about it in the first place though. Seems attention seeking to me My thoughts on this are:- Gas Burner did have the interview Tom asked them not to publish because a statement from the club is due The club are currently drawing up the plans for the Mem refurbishment and want to include them in the statement It's quite clear looking at the structure and vastness of the new stand that it is pretty permanent I'm expecting the East stand to be next followed by the Thatchers end Then why give the interview in the first place and let GB tweet the fact they'd done it? I doubt TG's told GB of the club's future stadium plans, so the interview, if it's even taken place, is already out of date. Although if GB is TG or a member of his team perhaps they do know the future stadium plans! |
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Post by singupgas on Sept 24, 2023 16:35:39 GMT
If the FM does happen it we won't be in it for 5 years maybe?? I am looking at the squad of players being assembled, it looks to me like we are having a good go at promotion with the money spent. If we made it to the championship this year or next, with the new south stand we would have something more respectable in place, it will also boost the capacity. Promotion with all the sponsorship and increased coverage would go some way to paying for the stand aswell. Really do see it as something to see us through for next few years. Can't see it myself, I would have thought if we just wanted to increase capacity we could have done it a lot cheaper, the impressive looking stand looks like it could last for decades not just for 5 or so years. It's impressive because it hell of a lot better than the tents. You can see how small and poxy the tents were yesterday as they were small enough to fit in between the framework. A stand with no real concourse is good, but where do Rovers want to be. Most modern grounds dont have these open back Stands. I thinks its a great step forward for the club as the Mem doesn't seem so shambolic. But the south stand being built hardly a modern structure with all the facilities you would expect today. |
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Post by wallywalters on Sept 24, 2023 17:03:50 GMT
My thoughts on this are:- Gas Burner did have the interview Tom asked them not to publish because a statement from the club is due The club are currently drawing up the plans for the Mem refurbishment and want to include them in the statement It's quite clear looking at the structure and vastness of the new stand that it is pretty permanent I'm expecting the East stand to be next followed by the Thatchers end Then why give the interview in the first place and let GB tweet the fact they'd done it? I doubt TG's told GB of the club's future stadium plans, so the interview, if it's even taken place, is already out of date. Although if GB is TG or a member of his team perhaps they do know the future stadium plans! I definitely think GB is someone inside the club now. If GB was an outsider and just a fan then releasing this info would put their followers up by thousands instantly. They have nothing to gain by saying what they did then saying we can't post it yet. And like you say they would have no legal reason to abide by an NDA. However if the club controls that account they have delayed our whinging by a bit by it seeming the club have spoke to a Bristol rovers social media account to release the Information. Hopefully more people challenge this account on x this week. |
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Post by supergas on Sept 25, 2023 3:52:35 GMT
Can't see it myself, I would have thought if we just wanted to increase capacity we could have done it a lot cheaper, the impressive looking stand looks like it could last for decades not just for 5 or so years. It's impressive because it hell of a lot better than the tents. You can see how small and poxy the tents were yesterday as they were small enough to fit in between the framework. A stand with no real concourse is good, but where do Rovers want to be. Most modern grounds dont have these open back Stands. I thinks its a great step forward for the club as the Mem doesn't seem so shambolic. But the south stand being built hardly a modern structure with all the facilities you would expect today. ...what makes you think the back of the stand will be open? That's not what the planning documents say.... |
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Post by supergas on Sept 25, 2023 5:06:10 GMT
My thoughts on this are:- Gas Burner did have the interview Tom asked them not to publish because a statement from the club is due The club are currently drawing up the plans for the Mem refurbishment and want to include them in the statement It's quite clear looking at the structure and vastness of the new stand that it is pretty permanent I'm expecting the East stand to be next followed by the Thatchers end Don’t disagree but the plans were in for the south stand BEFORE we released the FM video (i believe) Correct, the South Stand plans were 'validated' by the council a couple of days after the Fruit Market announcement/video in early April, but Gorringe had announced work/planning for the new stand was happening in programme notes in mid-February (and so it seems logical to assume work was started several weeks before that...) ...as for the GasBurner "interview", if they did actually get one it's been handled very badly by them (if you can't leak any details, why leak anything at all?!?) - which then leads me to ask why Gorringe would do an interview with a random and relatively new twitter account? If they want to avoid their own official socials and local media there are well established bloggers and podcasters who he could have gone to.... |
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Post by RD on Sept 25, 2023 6:00:25 GMT
Don’t disagree but the plans were in for the south stand BEFORE we released the FM video (i believe) Correct, the South Stand plans were 'validated' by the council a couple of days after the Fruit Market announcement/video in early April, but Gorringe had announced work/planning for the new stand was happening in programme notes in mid-February (and so it seems logical to assume work was started several weeks before that...) ...as for the GasBurner "interview", if they did actually get one it's been handled very badly by them (if you can't leak any details, why leak anything at all?!?) - which then leads me to ask why Gorringe would do an interview with a random and relatively new twitter account? If they want to avoid their own official socials and local media there are well established bloggers and podcasters who he could have gone to.... Yep. Most likely logical conclusion to arrive at is that GasBurner is full of sh*t and it's all a lie - it's the only scenario that makes sense. I mean, why do the interview and then say "but please don't share this" - surely you just politely decline for now but say you will give him one a little further down the line when the time is right. |
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Post by heartofgas on Sept 25, 2023 7:39:48 GMT
My thoughts on this are:- Gas Burner did have the interview Tom asked them not to publish because a statement from the club is due The club are currently drawing up the plans for the Mem refurbishment and want to include them in the statement It's quite clear looking at the structure and vastness of the new stand that it is pretty permanent I'm expecting the East stand to be next followed by the Thatchers end Then why give the interview in the first place and let GB tweet the fact they'd done it? I doubt TG's told GB of the club's future stadium plans, so the interview, if it's even taken place, is already out of date. Although if GB is TG or a member of his team perhaps they do know the future stadium plans! It does all seem a load of BS. |
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