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Post by wallywalters on Oct 5, 2023 16:29:21 GMT
The elusive gas burner tweeted this out today....
Morning Gasheads.
You might get a little upset at this but we can now definitively tell you that there will be no release of our interview with Mr Gorringe. Elements at the club have decided they do not wish for any direct quotes to be published.
Either a massive bullshi*Ter then or the club have blocked it which makes no sense at all why give the interview ?
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Post by yattongas on Oct 5, 2023 16:34:42 GMT
The elusive gas burner tweeted this out today.... Morning Gasheads. You might get a little upset at this but we can now definitively tell you that there will be no release of our interview with Mr Gorringe. Elements at the club have decided they do not wish for any direct quotes to be published. Either a massive bullshi*Ter then or the club have blocked it which makes no sense at all why give the interview ? I’ll go for the former |
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Post by bidefordgas on Oct 5, 2023 16:40:19 GMT
The elusive gas burner tweeted this out today.... Morning Gasheads. You might get a little upset at this but we can now definitively tell you that there will be no release of our interview with Mr Gorringe. Elements at the club have decided they do not wish for any direct quotes to be published. Either a massive bullshi*Ter then or the club have blocked it which makes no sense at all why give the interview ? I’ll go for the former Ditto!!! |
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Post by gasandelectricity on Oct 5, 2023 17:41:03 GMT
Wouldn’t give the gas burner the time of day.
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 5, 2023 18:28:47 GMT
The elusive gas burner tweeted this out today.... Morning Gasheads. You might get a little upset at this but we can now definitively tell you that there will be no release of our interview with Mr Gorringe. Elements at the club have decided they do not wish for any direct quotes to be published. Either a massive bullshi*Ter then or the club have blocked it which makes no sense at all why give the interview ? TG gave the interview before then seeking permission from the new owners to release it and they refused? Who knows, it is Rovers after all! |
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Post by wallywalters on Oct 7, 2023 9:29:17 GMT
I put this in the new owners thread but probably best on here from our friend gasburner.....
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Gas Burner
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Together We Are Our Strength
There are some seriously good people at Bristol Rovers. Working hard for the club and hard for the fans.
In recent times Rovers have been dreaming big and attempting to reach far with their ambition. We’ve seen positive moves off the pitch with a new and evolving training ground and we can currently see the development of a new South and South East Stand gathering pace. We’ve seen Rovers grow their commercial offering with the introduction of the ever-growing fanzone, additional sponsorship bands, and enhanced hospitality offerings. We’ve seen the Community Trust continue to flourish and provide invaluable support to the communities of Bristol and beyond. We’ve seen the Gas Girls also grow and flourish. And along with the academy grow more vibrant and confident at every turn with opportunities to break through and build on past success.
On the pitch the Men’s team has seen 3 promotions since 2015, we’ve mostly seen a brand of exciting, attacking football, and this year we’ve possibly compiled one of the most exciting squads in recent years with clear potential to reach heights Rovers haven’t seen for generations.
Much of this has been down to the love and money Wael Al Qadi has poured into Rovers. Supported by a young, ambitious and commercially intelligent CEO Tom Gorringe, the club has grown it’s stature and it’s reach. And we now have a new majority owner in Mr Hussain Al Saeed who we are as yet unable to make any informed judgement on.
Of course we do also find ourselves with a stubbornly recurring issue of a new stadium, or at least a stadium with realistic prospects for significant growth.
There’s a sense of deja vu with a new owner arriving, looking at what’s being negotiated and simply saying it’s not good enough!
It’s important to stress that at time of writing the club has still not publicly confirmed or denied the reports which emerged via Bristol Live that the Fruit Market deal is on verge of collapse. In fact they have remained strikingly silent on the matter. Some would say this is wise and perhaps suggests that the club will continue to explore their options until such a time comes when you need to definitively pull the plug or sign those lines.
Lest we forget we also have the no small mess that is the planning process for the new stand which continues to be a thorn in the match ball.
One thing is for sure - you can bet that the club and/or the ownership is leaking money on consultants and lawyers which may turn out to be a waste of resource on yet another failed stadium dream.
Unfortunately the club continues to come under criticism for it’s perceived lack of communication to fans and the wider public. The club are seen as allowing others to control the narrative with no proactive attempts to create the narrative. In many cases these narratives are wrong.
We reached out to the club for their perspective on all the burning issues of recent weeks. The ultimate response wont have helped the situation.
If you follow us on X/Twitter then you’ll know we said the club granted us an interview and answered all of our questions. Unfortunately, for reasons not entirely clear, the club later requested that we didn’t publish any of that interview. We have decided to comply with that request out of respect for the clubs wishes - Even though we did everything we could not to publish any sensitive information.
Gasburner is not a news outlet, nor an extension of the club, just a free extra source of information, fan engagement and opinions on all things Rovers. We do however believe in accountability and appropriate openness.
Its important to acknowledge that it’s not smart business in any case to give a public running commentary on negotiations and legal processes; and that our CEO has offered up some insight through his matchday programme notes as well as directly responding to feedback from fans. But it must also be acknowledged that fans have a right and some may even say an entitlement to know what is going on at the club they spend a large proportion of their earnings on. To fans it is an investment of not simply their earnings, in some cases their entire disposable income, but an investment of the heart and soul.
It’s a difficult balance for the ownership to strike. Wael Al Qadi has been one of the best at communicating and interacting with fans. However, with a new owner may arrive a new trend. As said earlier though It’s too early to make an informed judgement but we can express our wish to the new ownership that they are visible to fans and that they do communicate with fans to answer their questions where appropriate. Or they risk quickly losing the good faith of the hard-liners and fermenting a negative perception across the fan base. And while Rovers are responding to some of the feedback with actions, fans have genuine concerns about prices, about communication, about the running of the club, and about their matchday experience which should never be dismissed or ignored.
Generally though, lets remember that we are in a strong position as a club. The new owners have strengthened Rovers financial position with what is believed to be a strong investment, and as mentioned in the opening ramble, there is a big transformation taking place at Rovers. We keep being told its a long term project, so strap-in because the next few years look set to be exciting, and frustrating, it will hurt and it will create ecstasy. And who knows, it might just lead us to the promise land.
Up The Gas
Jump on the Gasburner...
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Post by gasheadontour on Oct 7, 2023 10:08:57 GMT
The rumours of it all gone pear-shaped are simply bananas. I hope there will be some berry good news and the cost of a new stadium is within our range. I look forward to the open date and a bunch of plum ties. All will be pine an pull large attendances.
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Post by darkbluegas on Oct 7, 2023 10:30:21 GMT
I put this in the new owners thread but probably best on here from our friend gasburner..... Join us on theapp GasBurner Post Writer's picture Gas Burner 18 hours ago 4 min Together We Are Our Strength There are some seriously good people at Bristol Rovers. Working hard for the club and hard for the fans. In recent times Rovers have been dreaming big and attempting to reach far with their ambition. We’ve seen positive moves off the pitch with a new and evolving training ground and we can currently see the development of a new South and South East Stand gathering pace. We’ve seen Rovers grow their commercial offering with the introduction of the ever-growing fanzone, additional sponsorship bands, and enhanced hospitality offerings. We’ve seen the Community Trust continue to flourish and provide invaluable support to the communities of Bristol and beyond. We’ve seen the Gas Girls also grow and flourish. And along with the academy grow more vibrant and confident at every turn with opportunities to break through and build on past success. On the pitch the Men’s team has seen 3 promotions since 2015, we’ve mostly seen a brand of exciting, attacking football, and this year we’ve possibly compiled one of the most exciting squads in recent years with clear potential to reach heights Rovers haven’t seen for generations. Much of this has been down to the love and money Wael Al Qadi has poured into Rovers. Supported by a young, ambitious and commercially intelligent CEO Tom Gorringe, the club has grown it’s stature and it’s reach. And we now have a new majority owner in Mr Hussain Al Saeed who we are as yet unable to make any informed judgement on. Of course we do also find ourselves with a stubbornly recurring issue of a new stadium, or at least a stadium with realistic prospects for significant growth. There’s a sense of deja vu with a new owner arriving, looking at what’s being negotiated and simply saying it’s not good enough! It’s important to stress that at time of writing the club has still not publicly confirmed or denied the reports which emerged via Bristol Live that the Fruit Market deal is on verge of collapse. In fact they have remained strikingly silent on the matter. Some would say this is wise and perhaps suggests that the club will continue to explore their options until such a time comes when you need to definitively pull the plug or sign those lines. Lest we forget we also have the no small mess that is the planning process for the new stand which continues to be a thorn in the match ball. One thing is for sure - you can bet that the club and/or the ownership is leaking money on consultants and lawyers which may turn out to be a waste of resource on yet another failed stadium dream. Unfortunately the club continues to come under criticism for it’s perceived lack of communication to fans and the wider public. The club are seen as allowing others to control the narrative with no proactive attempts to create the narrative. In many cases these narratives are wrong. We reached out to the club for their perspective on all the burning issues of recent weeks. The ultimate response wont have helped the situation. If you follow us on X/Twitter then you’ll know we said the club granted us an interview and answered all of our questions. Unfortunately, for reasons not entirely clear, the club later requested that we didn’t publish any of that interview. We have decided to comply with that request out of respect for the clubs wishes - Even though we did everything we could not to publish any sensitive information. Gasburner is not a news outlet, nor an extension of the club, just a free extra source of information, fan engagement and opinions on all things Rovers. We do however believe in accountability and appropriate openness. Its important to acknowledge that it’s not smart business in any case to give a public running commentary on negotiations and legal processes; and that our CEO has offered up some insight through his matchday programme notes as well as directly responding to feedback from fans. But it must also be acknowledged that fans have a right and some may even say an entitlement to know what is going on at the club they spend a large proportion of their earnings on. To fans it is an investment of not simply their earnings, in some cases their entire disposable income, but an investment of the heart and soul. It’s a difficult balance for the ownership to strike. Wael Al Qadi has been one of the best at communicating and interacting with fans. However, with a new owner may arrive a new trend. As said earlier though It’s too early to make an informed judgement but we can express our wish to the new ownership that they are visible to fans and that they do communicate with fans to answer their questions where appropriate. Or they risk quickly losing the good faith of the hard-liners and fermenting a negative perception across the fan base. And while Rovers are responding to some of the feedback with actions, fans have genuine concerns about prices, about communication, about the running of the club, and about their matchday experience which should never be dismissed or ignored. Generally though, lets remember that we are in a strong position as a club. The new owners have strengthened Rovers financial position with what is believed to be a strong investment, and as mentioned in the opening ramble, there is a big transformation taking place at Rovers. We keep being told its a long term project, so strap-in because the next few years look set to be exciting, and frustrating, it will hurt and it will create ecstasy. And who knows, it might just lead us to the promise land. Up The Gas Jump on the Gasburner... Think I should have spent the 4 mins it took me to read that listening to this www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DIobNcpiwpSc&ved=2ahUKEwjbztGR3eOBAxVMXUEAHY5YAVIQ78AJegQIFhAB&usg=AOvVaw3-zxjo_gccWMlXmlNOhyAM |
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Post by gasify on Oct 7, 2023 11:40:25 GMT
There is no way the club would give that information to someone on trust. If they have been told something in confidence then that must have come with an NDA. Seems bizzare they would say something about it in the first place though. Seems attention seeking to me I doubt an NDA would hold much weight with a random twitter account holder, the club couldn't really do a lot if they broke the NDA. You are correct with a Random twitter user. However the suggestion is that TG did give an interview. So, you could infer that TG knows who he gave an interview with and put in place an NDA. In which case, if it was broken TG and the club would know who to litigate against. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 7, 2023 14:57:45 GMT
I doubt an NDA would hold much weight with a random twitter account holder, the club couldn't really do a lot if they broke the NDA. You are correct with a Random twitter user. However the suggestion is that TG did give an interview. So, you could infer that TG knows who he gave an interview with and put in place an NDA. In which case, if it was broken TG and the club would know who to litigate against. What would they gain ligating against a Twitter account holder, if not like they are suing The Sun or Mail online etc? Although it does now seem GB as access to the club's email data base so is unlikely to be just a Twitter account holder, unless TG's handed also the db over when he gave his interview! |
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Post by gasify on Oct 7, 2023 15:07:10 GMT
You are correct with a Random twitter user. However the suggestion is that TG did give an interview. So, you could infer that TG knows who he gave an interview with and put in place an NDA. In which case, if it was broken TG and the club would know who to litigate against. What would they gain ligating against a Twitter account holder, if not like they are suing The Sun or Mail online etc? Although it does now seem GB as access to the club's email data base so is unlikely to be just a Twitter account holder, unless TG's handed also the db over when he gave his interview! I think you missed the point *again* You said: "I doubt an NDA would hold much weight with a random twitter account holder, the club couldn't really do a lot if they broke the NDA." My response was about the fact it could be enough to shut the twitter owner up. "Although it does now seem GB as access to the club's email data base so is unlikely to be just a Twitter account holder" I haven't received anything, as a season ticket holder I am on the Rovers database. Just as possible that GB could be a Mod on here, with access to email addresses. However, again I'm on that list but not been emailed. The list I am probably not on is the supporters club database. Maybe that has something to do with it...? |
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Post by gasheadontour on Oct 7, 2023 15:08:40 GMT
I would be surprised if the club allowed a 3rd party access to fans personal email address details unless those fans had given consent.
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 7, 2023 15:19:06 GMT
I would be surprised if the club allowed a 3rd party access to fans personal email address details unless those fans had given consent. It's all a bit odd, they've clearly got contact emails from somewhere, I can't see the Gaschat mods doing it as GB doesn't seem to be linked in anyway to this forum, it's also a lengthy piece (saying nothing at all!) just to be from a regular Rovers supporter who's now decided to set up a Twitter account in their spare time. What's this line supposed to mean: "Lest we forget we also have the no small mess that is the planning process for the new stand which continues to be a thorn in the match ball" |
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Post by supergas on Oct 8, 2023 10:19:07 GMT
I doubt an NDA would hold much weight with a random twitter account holder, the club couldn't really do a lot if they broke the NDA. You are correct with a Random twitter user. However the suggestion is that TG did give an interview. So, you could infer that TG knows who he gave an interview with and put in place an NDA. In which case, if it was broken TG and the club would know who to litigate against. ...other than Gasburner, who have not (and now will not) release any details of the "...interview...", have we heard it from anywhere else? So it's not so much a suggestion, more a claim from a random person on Twitter... ...and whilst *sometimes* random people on Twitter are telling the truth, I need to see more evidence. Same for the "emails" - the post is available to be copy and pasted from their website/socials. So far one or two people 'claim' it was sent to them via email but far more people (who would be on the club's mailing list) say they haven't received it...so it's more likely the emails were never sent/were sent to people who's details were given/found online somewhere... ...finally NDAs...irrelevant as far as I can see, because *in the incredibly unlikely event* that TG gave an interview to some random person from Twitter, where he talked about significant unreleased details regarding the Fruit Market stadium, he's on dodgy ground whether they publish it or not as that information is confidential and could lead to insider-trading. Which is why he wouldn't have done it, even to a fully accredited journalist - at least not if he ever want's to hold a similar job with similar responsibilities ever again.... |
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Post by gasify on Oct 8, 2023 10:41:12 GMT
You are correct with a Random twitter user. However the suggestion is that TG did give an interview. So, you could infer that TG knows who he gave an interview with and put in place an NDA. In which case, if it was broken TG and the club would know who to litigate against. ...other than Gasburner, who have not (and now will not) release any details of the "...interview...", have we heard it from anywhere else? So it's not so much a suggestion, more a claim from a random person on Twitter... ...and whilst *sometimes* random people on Twitter are telling the truth, I need to see more evidence. Same for the "emails" - the post is available to be copy and pasted from their website/socials. So far one or two people 'claim' it was sent to them via email but far more people (who would be on the club's mailing list) say they haven't received it...so it's more likely the emails were never sent/were sent to people who's details were given/found online somewhere... ...finally NDAs...irrelevant as far as I can see, because *in the incredibly unlikely event* that TG gave an interview to some random person from Twitter, where he talked about significant unreleased details regarding the Fruit Market stadium, he's on dodgy ground whether they publish it or not as that information is confidential and could lead to insider-trading. Which is why he wouldn't have done it, even to a fully accredited journalist - at least not if he ever want's to hold a similar job with similar responsibilities ever again.... Agree with everything, apart from NDAs being irrelevant. The legal system doesn't really work like that. You would have two legal cases, one against TG and one against Gasburner. The one against TG wouldn't negate any case against Gasburner. All completely hypothetical. I was just pointing out that if the story was to believed that an NDA might be the reason that Gasburner is holding back. It's all a bit weird really. One of the things that I am finding interesting is that people are talking about loss of revenue due to the South stand being built and accepting that as factual. Yet, when mentioned on the actual south stand thread there was a different response. |
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Post by supergas on Oct 8, 2023 10:48:58 GMT
...other than Gasburner, who have not (and now will not) release any details of the "...interview...", have we heard it from anywhere else? So it's not so much a suggestion, more a claim from a random person on Twitter... ...and whilst *sometimes* random people on Twitter are telling the truth, I need to see more evidence. Same for the "emails" - the post is available to be copy and pasted from their website/socials. So far one or two people 'claim' it was sent to them via email but far more people (who would be on the club's mailing list) say they haven't received it...so it's more likely the emails were never sent/were sent to people who's details were given/found online somewhere... ...finally NDAs...irrelevant as far as I can see, because *in the incredibly unlikely event* that TG gave an interview to some random person from Twitter, where he talked about significant unreleased details regarding the Fruit Market stadium, he's on dodgy ground whether they publish it or not as that information is confidential and could lead to insider-trading. Which is why he wouldn't have done it, even to a fully accredited journalist - at least not if he ever want's to hold a similar job with similar responsibilities ever again.... Agree with everything, apart from NDAs being irrelevant. The legal system doesn't really work like that. You would have two legal cases, one against TG and one against Gasburner. The one against TG wouldn't negate any case against Gasburner. All completely hypothetical. I was just pointing out that if the story was to believed that an NDA might be the reason that Gasburner is holding back. It's all a bit weird really. One of the things that I am finding interesting is that people are talking about loss of revenue due to the South stand being built and accepting that as factual. Yet, when mentioned on the actual south stand thread there was a different response. ...and my point is that the information is confidential - not just for Rovers, but for Conygar and the people who buy/sell their shares. Which is why TG would be *incredibly* unlikely to talk about it with any journalist, let alone a random person from Twitter.... ...it's not weird, it's just made up.... |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2023 11:19:04 GMT
I would be surprised if the club allowed a 3rd party access to fans personal email address details unless those fans had given consent. Me too, if this is non compliancy of GDPR then big fines are applicable. |
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Post by gasify on Oct 8, 2023 11:22:17 GMT
Agree with everything, apart from NDAs being irrelevant. The legal system doesn't really work like that. You would have two legal cases, one against TG and one against Gasburner. The one against TG wouldn't negate any case against Gasburner. All completely hypothetical. I was just pointing out that if the story was to believed that an NDA might be the reason that Gasburner is holding back. It's all a bit weird really. One of the things that I am finding interesting is that people are talking about loss of revenue due to the South stand being built and accepting that as factual. Yet, when mentioned on the actual south stand thread there was a different response. ...and my point is that the information is confidential - not just for Rovers, but for Conygar and the people who buy/sell their shares. Which is why TG would be *incredibly* unlikely to talk about it with any journalist, let alone a random person from Twitter.... ...it's not weird, it's just made up.... That is the only logical conclusion at the moment. |
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Post by gasify on Oct 8, 2023 11:24:14 GMT
I would be surprised if the club allowed a 3rd party access to fans personal email address details unless those fans had given consent. Me too, if this is non compliancy of GDPR then big fines are applicable. Just hypothetically, there is normally an option for data to be shared with partners. In which case it could not be a GDPR issue. My money is on the supporters club, rather than the football club. |
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Post by seanclevedongas on Oct 8, 2023 11:42:17 GMT
Just a thought regarding emails, way back before forums were a thing, there was a group called the "Gas list" which was a group of Gasheads that communicated via emails. (BRFC board members included)
If Gasburner was part of the "Gas List" he would possibly still have access to the email addresses of those members and if you still have the same email address as back then, that might be why you received an email.
Like I said, just a thought......
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