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Post by Jester on Aug 19, 2019 15:53:34 GMT
Jakkola Davies Kilgour Craig Hare Tomlinson Clarke Ogogo Leahy Smith JCH That's about the best we can do with what we've got available, although I'd play Sercs in place of OC if he's available. Playing a back 3 would take a bit of pressure off Hare and Leahy. |
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Post by giff on Aug 19, 2019 16:02:39 GMT
Anyone thinking , shall I go or should I stay at home , had it answered by GC because according to him it's not going to be pretty, we will have to dig in, what are we becoming and how are we good enough to be in with all these fantastic teams in league 1 . Every team we play are fantastic teams , God knows what we will do next week against Brighton. Maybe just get GC to tell them to take it easy on us
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Post by Jester on Aug 19, 2019 16:17:50 GMT
Just listened myself and am now wondering if GC has morphed into T-Bone's DC and become the 'clueless one'?
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Post by twertonboy on Aug 19, 2019 16:27:37 GMT
Cogs must find it frustrating that the best budget in years has been blown on average league 2 standard players and their all on too much money to get anyone else in due to the wage bill
DC has filled the squad with crap and now left so until we can give them all away on free like we always do we’re stuck with them.
Nichols/ upson/ Bennett/ Craig/ Smith/ slocombe/ Mathews/ mensah that was a lot of bang average players to bring in and no wonder we’re in a state now... love to know what wages combined their on...
Smith and slocombe gone on frees and the rest will all go frees too.
Sercombe is a good player but lost the plot and probably needs to be moved on.
Personally I’m jealous of taylor going to oxford as I would have him back in a heartbeat.
We won’t be getting anyone else as our wage bill is too high...depressing season ahead
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Post by gashead1981 on Aug 19, 2019 20:58:02 GMT
Cogs must find it frustrating that the best budget in years has been blown on average league 2 standard players and their all on too much money to get anyone else in due to the wage bill DC has filled the squad with crap and now left so until we can give them all away on free like we always do we’re stuck with them. Nichols/ upson/ Bennett/ Craig/ Smith/ slocombe/ Mathews/ mensah that was a lot of bang average players to bring in and no wonder we’re in a state now... love to know what wages combined their on... Smith and slocombe gone on frees and the rest will all go frees too. Sercombe is a good player but lost the plot and probably needs to be moved on. Personally I’m jealous of taylor going to oxford as I would have him back in a heartbeat. We won’t be getting anyone else as our wage bill is too high...depressing season ahead Thing is tho Sercombe, Nichols and Upson have rarely been played in their strongest positions or with the correct personnel around them. Sercs, who is right footed, has played the majority of his games on the left wing. Upson, who one Yeovil fan I know who watched him through L1 and in the championship as the best midfielder they have ever had in the middle of a 4 has often played an anchoring role in front of the back 4 in the middle of a midfield 3. Nichols, who really needs a big man to play off and who needs it into feet has played alongside such giants as Gavin Reilly often as the lone front man at 5ft 8 at the tip of a forward 3. Now I’m not defending his goals to appearances ratio but we have hardly played to his strengths. Cogs has now put Ollie playing as a CAM. JCH as a target man for long ball where his strength is the give and go with another striker ahead of him or to use the wingers for him to either create space or get on the end of something. DC started this madness and GC seems to be carrying it on. Play players in their right positions in a formation to their strengths. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2019 2:23:50 GMT
Cogs must find it frustrating that the best budget in years has been blown on average league 2 standard players and their all on too much money to get anyone else in due to the wage bill DC has filled the squad with crap and now left so until we can give them all away on free like we always do we’re stuck with them. Nichols/ upson/ Bennett/ Craig/ Smith/ slocombe/ Mathews/ mensah that was a lot of bang average players to bring in and no wonder we’re in a state now... love to know what wages combined their on... Smith and slocombe gone on frees and the rest will all go frees too. Sercombe is a good player but lost the plot and probably needs to be moved on. Personally I’m jealous of taylor going to oxford as I would have him back in a heartbeat. We won’t be getting anyone else as our wage bill is too high...depressing season ahead Coughlan signed 8 players i thought? Or did i just imagine that? Taylor would struggle with an ultra defensive manager,he thrived with an attack minded manager. |
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Post by Gassy on Aug 20, 2019 7:09:02 GMT
Cogs must find it frustrating that the best budget in years has been blown on average league 2 standard players and their all on too much money to get anyone else in due to the wage bill DC has filled the squad with crap and now left so until we can give them all away on free like we always do we’re stuck with them. Nichols/ upson/ Bennett/ Craig/ Smith/ slocombe/ Mathews/ mensah that was a lot of bang average players to bring in and no wonder we’re in a state now... love to know what wages combined their on... Smith and slocombe gone on frees and the rest will all go frees too. Sercombe is a good player but lost the plot and probably needs to be moved on. Personally I’m jealous of taylor going to oxford as I would have him back in a heartbeat. We won’t be getting anyone else as our wage bill is too high...depressing season ahead Thing is tho Sercombe, Nichols and Upson have rarely been played in their strongest positions or with the correct personnel around them. Sercs, who is right footed, has played the majority of his games on the left wing. Upson, who one Yeovil fan I know who watched him through L1 and in the championship as the best midfielder they have ever had in the middle of a 4 has often played an anchoring role in front of the back 4 in the middle of a midfield 3. Nichols, who really needs a big man to play off and who needs it into feet has played alongside such giants as Gavin Reilly often as the lone front man at 5ft 8 at the tip of a forward 3. Now I’m not defending his goals to appearances ratio but we have hardly played to his strengths. Cogs has now put Ollie playing as a CAM. JCH as a target man for long ball where his strength is the give and go with another striker ahead of him or to use the wingers for him to either create space or get on the end of something. DC started this madness and GC seems to be carrying it on. Play players in their right positions in a formation to their strengths. Completely agree on Sercombe. Not quite sure I can agree on Nichols & Upson though. Nichols had 1 season up front with Harrison & half a season up front with JCH. In the time playing with them he scored 1 league goal. To further this, Nichols has had plenty of opportunities to score, especially his first season - but his finishing was absolutely abysmal. Upson did also play in a midfield 4 under DC quite a few times. He's also played a few times the CDM in a 3 man midfield. But honestly, if a CM can only suit one specific formation then what is even the point of having him? It's not as if Upson is a player who we can tell has quality but it just isn't working. The bloke can't pass to save his life. If he even tries to ankor any play, he ends up going back to the GK or knocking it out for a throw in. His set piece delivery is also absolutely dreadful. Tbh, Upson for me is probably the worst player in our squad. I genuinely don't know what the bloke has to offer. |
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Post by socrates on Aug 20, 2019 7:18:38 GMT
Will be interesting to see what happens over the next two home games.
If Coughlan sticks with the diamond and it doesn’t work and we don’t pick up st least one win then for me he should probably go because it will show he has no plan B for when plan A is clearly not working.
If he mixes it up and goes for much needed width then fair enough whether we win any or not because maybe the players just aren’t good enough.
Personally I think they are and it’s the turgid style of play that killing us.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 20, 2019 7:22:39 GMT
Thing is tho Sercombe, Nichols and Upson have rarely been played in their strongest positions or with the correct personnel around them. Sercs, who is right footed, has played the majority of his games on the left wing. Upson, who one Yeovil fan I know who watched him through L1 and in the championship as the best midfielder they have ever had in the middle of a 4 has often played an anchoring role in front of the back 4 in the middle of a midfield 3. Nichols, who really needs a big man to play off and who needs it into feet has played alongside such giants as Gavin Reilly often as the lone front man at 5ft 8 at the tip of a forward 3. Now I’m not defending his goals to appearances ratio but we have hardly played to his strengths. Cogs has now put Ollie playing as a CAM. JCH as a target man for long ball where his strength is the give and go with another striker ahead of him or to use the wingers for him to either create space or get on the end of something. DC started this madness and GC seems to be carrying it on. Play players in their right positions in a formation to their strengths. Completely agree on Sercombe. Not quite sure I can agree on Nichols & Upson though. Nichols had 1 season up front with Harrison & half a season up front with JCH. In the time playing with them he scored 1 league goal. To further this, Nichols has had plenty of opportunities to score, especially his first season - but his finishing was absolutely abysmal. Upson did also play in a midfield 4 under DC quite a few times. He's also played a few times the CDM in a 3 man midfield. But honestly, if a CM can only suit one specific formation then what is even the point of having him? It's not as if Upson is a player who we can tell has quality but it just isn't working. The bloke can't pass to save his life. If he even tries to ankor any play, he ends up going back to the GK or knocking it out for a throw in. His set piece delivery is also absolutely dreadful. Tbh, Upson for me is probably the worst player in our squad. I genuinely don't know what the bloke has to offer. I can't understand why GC doesn't give Hargreaves or Russe (I know he's now at Gloucester) a chance as surely they can't be any worse than Upson & Sercs in central mid? I also can't understand why Upson can't pass the ball more than 10m, as he seems to have a shot on him and also take the set piece deliveries. It sounds like Sercs might be out injured for a few games, unless GC was just playing mind games, if so, lets hope he keeps some creativity in midfield. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2019 7:22:49 GMT
It’ll start turning toxic if we lose this, especially if we lose again on Saturday. The sooner this PE teacher is sacked the better.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 20, 2019 7:25:51 GMT
Will be interesting to see what happens over the next two home games. If Coughlan sticks with the diamond and it doesn’t work and we don’t pick up st least one win then for me he should probably go because it will show he has no plan B for when plan A is clearly not working. If he mixes it up and goes for much needed width then fair enough whether we win any or not because maybe the players just aren’t good enough. Personally I think they are and it’s the turgid style of play that killing us. With Sercs probably missing at least the next two home games and from past experience "sick note" Rodman unlikely to start even if he's fit he's pretty restricted when it come to wide players. Unless he tries Nichols or Leahy out wide. GC was talking up Tranmere yesterday but prior to playing Bolton's youth team they'd lost all 3 games whilst conceding 8 goals! |
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Post by rememberhalifax on Aug 20, 2019 7:35:57 GMT
Good club Tranmere, nice to see them back, got good memories of that win there on a Friday night, I think it was, they got there own back at Wembley and there was a lot of mutual respect about, BUT, we need the win tonight and I fully expect us to come flying out the blocks and secure a good win 3-1 ,hope for a couple of changes in midfield and that fans get behind GC and the team, if Payne plays best not to give constant stick ,the villain nearly always scores so lay off till points secured! up the Rovers!
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Post by Gassy on Aug 20, 2019 7:39:42 GMT
Completely agree on Sercombe. Not quite sure I can agree on Nichols & Upson though. Nichols had 1 season up front with Harrison & half a season up front with JCH. In the time playing with them he scored 1 league goal. To further this, Nichols has had plenty of opportunities to score, especially his first season - but his finishing was absolutely abysmal. Upson did also play in a midfield 4 under DC quite a few times. He's also played a few times the CDM in a 3 man midfield. But honestly, if a CM can only suit one specific formation then what is even the point of having him? It's not as if Upson is a player who we can tell has quality but it just isn't working. The bloke can't pass to save his life. If he even tries to ankor any play, he ends up going back to the GK or knocking it out for a throw in. His set piece delivery is also absolutely dreadful. Tbh, Upson for me is probably the worst player in our squad. I genuinely don't know what the bloke has to offer. I can't understand why GC doesn't give Hargreaves or Russe (I know he's now at Gloucester) a chance as surely they can't be any worse than Upson & Sercs in central mid? I also can't understand why Upson can't pass the ball more than 10m, as he seems to have a shot on him and also take the set piece deliveries. It sounds like Sercs might be out injured for a few games, unless GC was just playing mind games, if so, lets hope he keeps some creativity in midfield. From what I saw of Mehew in pre-season he looked good as well. Tbh I have no hope for tonight. I'm not GC out yet, but lose the next 2 and I might be close |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2019 9:20:19 GMT
Thing is tho Sercombe, Nichols and Upson have rarely been played in their strongest positions or with the correct personnel around them. Sercs, who is right footed, has played the majority of his games on the left wing. Upson, who one Yeovil fan I know who watched him through L1 and in the championship as the best midfielder they have ever had in the middle of a 4 has often played an anchoring role in front of the back 4 in the middle of a midfield 3. Nichols, who really needs a big man to play off and who needs it into feet has played alongside such giants as Gavin Reilly often as the lone front man at 5ft 8 at the tip of a forward 3. Now I’m not defending his goals to appearances ratio but we have hardly played to his strengths. Cogs has now put Ollie playing as a CAM. JCH as a target man for long ball where his strength is the give and go with another striker ahead of him or to use the wingers for him to either create space or get on the end of something. DC started this madness and GC seems to be carrying it on. Play players in their right positions in a formation to their strengths. Completely agree on Sercombe. Not quite sure I can agree on Nichols & Upson though. Nichols had 1 season up front with Harrison & half a season up front with JCH. In the time playing with them he scored 1 league goal. To further this, Nichols has had plenty of opportunities to score, especially his first season - but his finishing was absolutely abysmal. Upson did also play in a midfield 4 under DC quite a few times. He's also played a few times the CDM in a 3 man midfield. But honestly, if a CM can only suit one specific formation then what is even the point of having him? It's not as if Upson is a player who we can tell has quality but it just isn't working. The bloke can't pass to save his life. If he even tries to ankor any play, he ends up going back to the GK or knocking it out for a throw in. His set piece delivery is also absolutely dreadful. Tbh, Upson for me is probably the worst player in our squad. I genuinely don't know what the bloke has to offer. Oi! I thought it was a killer through ball to set up Nichols for his only goal from open play. If only he could do that when he’s actually wearing a Rovers shirt.... |
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Post by Colyton Gas on Aug 20, 2019 9:31:40 GMT
Upson is simply too slow.
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Post by Icegas on Aug 20, 2019 9:38:55 GMT
Will be interesting to see what happens over the next two home games. If Coughlan sticks with the diamond and it doesn’t work and we don’t pick up st least one win then for me he should probably go because it will show he has no plan B for when plan A is clearly not working. If he mixes it up and goes for much needed width then fair enough whether we win any or not because maybe the players just aren’t good enough. Personally I think they are and it’s the turgid style of play that killing us. From his interview saturday he believe's that he has gone to gung - ho to soon thus far this season!! 😱😲 WTF.. So I doubt it will be pretty and I think it will be a draw or a Tranny win.😤 |
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Post by simonj on Aug 20, 2019 9:40:23 GMT
The atmosphere will be quiet again and I can’t see that changing for a while...Cogs sounded dejected in interview and basically said we’ll be lucky to get any more players in... Sercs won’t be in the line up and GC will play a defensive line up again... Shame as I was hoping for a great atmosphere and payne to get so much sh** off us but the way everyone seems to be so low they probably can’t be arsed Is it too much to try and get the team going with some support? I do know what you mean though. |
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Post by Icegas on Aug 20, 2019 9:41:44 GMT
Upson is simply too slow. I blame his hair. Something about it bugs me, and makes me think that Im watching a shampoo commercial in the slow motion part when he trys to tackle. |
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Post by simonj on Aug 20, 2019 9:46:01 GMT
I can't understand why GC doesn't give Hargreaves or Russe (I know he's now at Gloucester) a chance as surely they can't be any worse than Upson & Sercs in central mid? I also can't understand why Upson can't pass the ball more than 10m, as he seems to have a shot on him and also take the set piece deliveries. It sounds like Sercs might be out injured for a few games, unless GC was just playing mind games, if so, lets hope he keeps some creativity in midfield. From what I saw of Mehew in pre-season he looked good as well. Tbh I have no hope for tonight. I'm not GC out yet, but lose the next 2 and I might be close Surely if you have no hope for tonight, at home, to a team that may end up mid table if lucky, you have to be GC out now.
I may want him to go if he hasnt gotten us playing with results by end of Sept, but I genuinely think we should win tonight.
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