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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 9, 2019 8:40:56 GMT
wish you had a mind of your own and not slavishly following steve k.
Why don't you respect this ??
He paid to watch the same game as you, he is entitled to post his own score's without explanation or the need for derogatory comments.We've been here before 😂 |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2019 8:48:04 GMT
You are entitled to your opinion but wish you had a mind of your own and not slavishly following steve k.who has an agenda against home grown players preferring journey men who demand high wages for no more ability than those who have come through the academy.why do you think that 14 and 15 year olds prefer to join southampton or Cardiff academies rather than rovers or those that do sign jump ship as soon as they can.its simple they do not get the chance or if they do they are slated by people like you For what it's worth I gave Ollie Clarke a 3! That was certainly not based on SteveK's opinion, but what I thought he was worth for his overall performance on the day. If anyone cares to check back my entire scores for every player since these ratings started, you will see I am a poster who has consistently been in the middle of Kudos's averages season on season. Before I'm told I don't know anything about football, I have watched the Rovers since I was seven years old and in the late sixties/ seventies played regular football in the Gloucester county league against the likes of Bristol St George, who were by far and away the top side in our area at that time. I for one am quite taken aback at times as to what game others watched, but would never dream of slagging them off over ratings they have given in good faith. I would point out that OC has been one of our lowest scorers in the ratings thread this season. That would suggest to me he has been, and whether a player is home grown or not, it does not add any points to ratings I post or indeed on what others post. Going on what I hear on terraces up and down the country a certain number of fans and that includes rovers have favourites and also have those they dislike for no apparent reason and no matter what that player does he will always be rubbish unfit not trying etc.i have seen this over the years at rovers and 90 per cent of those players are for some reason local ones.congratulations on reaching the dizzy heights of the county league must make you feel good.never played in that league retired before I dropped that low |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2019 8:49:41 GMT
wish you had a mind of your own and not slavishly following steve k.
Why don't you respect this ??
He paid to watch the same game as you, he is entitled to post his own score's without explanation or the need for derogatory comments.As a moderator if you object to what I post you have the option to ban me |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2019 9:01:45 GMT
For what it's worth I gave Ollie Clarke a 3! That was certainly not based on SteveK's opinion, but what I thought he was worth for his overall performance on the day. If anyone cares to check back my entire scores for every player since these ratings started, you will see I am a poster who has consistently been in the middle of Kudos's averages season on season. Before I'm told I don't know anything about football, I have watched the Rovers since I was seven years old and in the late sixties/ seventies played regular football in the Gloucester county league against the likes of Bristol St George, who were by far and away the top side in our area at that time. I for one am quite taken aback at times as to what game others watched, but would never dream of slagging them off over ratings they have given in good faith. I would point out that OC has been one of our lowest scorers in the ratings thread this season. That would suggest to me he has been, and whether a player is home grown or not, it does not add any points to ratings I post or indeed on what others post. Going on what I hear on terraces up and down the country a certain number of fans and that includes rovers have favourites and also have those they dislike for no apparent reason and no matter what that player does he will always be rubbish unfit not trying etc.i have seen this over the years at rovers and 90 per cent of those players are for some reason local ones.congratulations on reaching the dizzy heights of the county league must make you feel good.never played in that league retired before I dropped that low Quite happy to have played in the top league in Bristol and the surrounding area at that time. Was a young lad then, could not afford to travel farther to the dizzy heights of the Western league. Was all amateur then, no money changing hands for so say expenses etc. No doubt you playing at a higher level elevates you to a superior level of knowledge! |
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Post by burnthewitch on Sept 9, 2019 9:29:45 GMT
The whole point of this thread is to gauge our individual fan's opinion.
Why don't you respect this ??
He paid to watch the same game as you, he is entitled to post his own score's without explanation or the need for derogatory comments. As a moderator if you object to what I post you have the option to ban me Sadly just objecting to what padstow writes, isn't as far as I'm aware, grounds for a ban. Which is a shame. |
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Post by simonj on Sept 9, 2019 9:33:15 GMT
van Stappershoef 6
Davies 5
Craig 4
Kilgour 6
Hare 4
Rodman 6
Ogogo 5
Clarke 5
Leahy 4
Nichols 4
Clarke-Harris 8
Subs: Bennett 6
Smith
Crowd 5
Ref 4
Accrington 5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2019 10:14:38 GMT
Going on what I hear on terraces up and down the country a certain number of fans and that includes rovers have favourites and also have those they dislike for no apparent reason and no matter what that player does he will always be rubbish unfit not trying etc.i have seen this over the years at rovers and 90 per cent of those players are for some reason local ones.congratulations on reaching the dizzy heights of the county league must make you feel good.never played in that league retired before I dropped that low Quite happy to have played in the top league in Bristol and the surrounding area at that time. Was a young lad then, could not afford to travel farther to the dizzy heights of the Western league. Was all amateur then, no money changing hands for so say expenses etc. No doubt you playing at a higher level elevates you to a superior level of knowledge! Probably not so much as a player because I only made central league but my job certainly does give me a greater insight. Expecting a ban any time now |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2019 10:14:48 GMT
Going on what I hear on terraces up and down the country a certain number of fans and that includes rovers have favourites and also have those they dislike for no apparent reason and no matter what that player does he will always be rubbish unfit not trying etc.i have seen this over the years at rovers and 90 per cent of those players are for some reason local ones.congratulations on reaching the dizzy heights of the county league must make you feel good.never played in that league retired before I dropped that low Quite happy to have played in the top league in Bristol and the surrounding area at that time. Was a young lad then, could not afford to travel farther to the dizzy heights of the Western league. Was all amateur then, no money changing hands for so say expenses etc. No doubt you playing at a higher level elevates you to a superior level of knowledge! Probably not so much as a player because I only made central league but my job certainly does give me a greater insight. Expecting a ban any time now |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2019 10:32:34 GMT
Quite happy to have played in the top league in Bristol and the surrounding area at that time. Was a young lad then, could not afford to travel farther to the dizzy heights of the Western league. Was all amateur then, no money changing hands for so say expenses etc. No doubt you playing at a higher level elevates you to a superior level of knowledge! Probably not so much as a player because I only made central league but my job certainly does give me a greater insight. Expecting a ban any time now Who knows what level I would have reached. Retired at 21 after playing for four years with men in the highest level in Bristol and surrounding area.Not many of us youngsters playing at that level at that time. Left the UK to pursue a career overseas. Had a trial at Rovers at fifteen, more fool them for not taking me on. That's enough of that billy bollocks stuff, let's cut to the chase you have not got a clue as to what people on here know about football, as to having more insight, that's just your opinion. |
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Post by montygas on Sept 9, 2019 11:13:27 GMT
van Stappershoef 6
Davies 4
Craig 4
Kilgour 5
Hare 5
Rodman 5
Ogogo 6
Clarke 6
Leahy 4
Nichols 5
Clarke-Harris 9
Subs: Bennett 5
Smith 5
Crowd 4
Ref 5
Accrington 5
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Sept 9, 2019 11:57:45 GMT
Probably not so much as a player because I only made central league but my job certainly does give me a greater insight. Expecting a ban any time now Who knows what level I would have reached. Retired at 21 after playing for four years with men in the highest level in Bristol and surrounding area.Not many of us youngsters playing at that level at that time. Left the UK to pursue a career overseas. Had a trial at Rovers at fifteen, more fool them for not taking me on. That's enough of that billy bollocks stuff, let's cut to the chase you have not got a clue as to what people on here know about football, as to having more insight, that's just your opinion. |
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Sept 9, 2019 11:58:41 GMT
Ooooo come on girlies CHILL 🤫utg
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Post by lpgas on Sept 9, 2019 16:55:28 GMT
van Stappershoef 6
Davies 6
Craig 6
Kilgour 5
Hare 6
Rodman 6
Ogogo 8
Clarke 6
Leahy 6
Nichols4
Clarke-Harris 7
Subs: Bennett 4
Smith 4
Crowd 5
Ref 7
Accrington 6
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2019 17:03:52 GMT
Plus his so called pass to Rodman was a poor attempt at a shot. He started brightly but after falling over trying to cross the ball he faded out the game for long periods. Nobody has mentioned that he was the closest to their player and totally shied out of a tackle when he ran through to get the penalty.No surprise when he was booked, had already been spoken to twice by the ref for his needless shananagins with their player early in the game. Better have another look at the build up to the penalty and ollie clarke was nowhere near the player who was fouled and had no chance of causing the penalty. |
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Post by stevek192 on Sept 9, 2019 18:25:06 GMT
Nobody needs to be banned,football is a game about opinions to which EVERYONE is entitled without being personally insulted. What relevance is playing any level of football? I too had trials for Rovers at 16 but does that make my opinion any greater? Not at all Padstow. Where you are totaqlly wrong is where you say I dislike local players- that is utter crap but I honestly wish we produced a better level of player in the Academy/Development Squad. The reason very few make it is generally not down to not being given a chance and in the majority of cases down to not being good enough. When did we last produce a player who is actually built to withstand the physical side of League 1 football? The majority of players produced are just too lightweight to make the grade.
So few local players actually reach the standard that I do question whether it is worthwhile developing young players anyway when if they are any good they go to top clubs for a pittance. Of coursed I cant question someone of such high a knowledge or understanding of the game as Padstow and wouldn't want to.
Football is all about opinions and Ii would have thought that Padstow would know that!!!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2019 19:03:51 GMT
Nobody has mentioned that he was the closest to their player and totally shied out of a tackle when he ran through to get the penalty.No surprise when he was booked, had already been spoken to twice by the ref for his needless shananagins with their player early in the game. Better have another look at the build up to the penalty and ollie clarke was nowhere near the player who was fouled and had no chance of causing the penalty. Have a look out for the build up. OC shied out of a tackle, centre field on the edge of the centre circle. The player went on past two or three others. I made no mention of him being anywhere near the area, he wasn't. |
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Post by GCcrew on Sept 9, 2019 20:28:11 GMT
Hope I didn't offend anyone by posting my rates while some family friends/family are arguing away!
Van the man 6
Davies, 5 not one of his better games.
Craig, 5 as above.
Kilgore, 5 as above.
Hare, 5 as above.
Rodman 6, needs more game time.
Ogogo, 7.5 best of a poor team on Saturday.
Clarke, 4.5, think the captaincy is playing heavy on him.
Leah, 4 poor.
Nichols, 4 ah the enigma that is Tom, poor.
Clarke-Harris, 7 doesn't look fit yet scored twice, we'll miss him in the New Year but in the meantime without him we have no strike force as non of the others look up to it which is a huge worry.
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Bennett, 4 added little.
Smith, 4 as above.
GC, 3 disappointingly poor, we needed to stretch the game and use the pitch to make it difficult for them. We didn't!
Crowd 5
Ref, 5
Accrington, 6 well they were Accrington.
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Post by I Voted For Kodos on Sept 10, 2019 8:20:24 GMT
Results in and Jonson Clarke-Harris was Man of the Match with a score of 7.88.
This was Clarke-Harris' 10th MotM and he becomes the 10th player to reach that milestone. He achieved it in the joint quickest time, just 22 league games. This is a joint record with Jack Bonham and far faster than the next fastest (Gaffney in 58 games)
The starting XI average was 5.49.
Clarke-Harris' rating was 2.4 points above the team average. This is the eleventh biggest positive gap between one player and their teammates. I'll post the top ten in another post below.
van Stappershoef 5.7
Davies 5.5
Craig 5.3
Kilgour 5.8
Hare 4.8
Clarke 4.9
Ogogo 6.3
Rodman 5.1
Leahy 4.8
Nichols 4.5
Clarke-Harris 7.9
Subs: Bennett 4.8
Smith 4.5
Crowd 4.6
Ref 5.2
Accrington 6.6
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Post by I Voted For Kodos on Sept 10, 2019 8:40:15 GMT
These are the biggest differences between players and the team average for those games. As you might be able to tell, some are in games when the MotM scored particularly highly and others are because all but the one player scored lowly. | Player | Game | Season | Difference | | Mildenhall | Portsmouth (A) | 15/16 | +3.5 | | Bonham | Luton (A) | 18/19 | +3.4 | | Sinclair | Gateshead (H) | 14/15 | +3.2 | | Harrison | Shrewsbury (A) | 17/18 | +3.2 | | Harrison | Bradford (A) | 17/18 | +3.1 | | McChrystal | Wrexham (A) | 14/15 | +2.8 | | Taylor | Stevenage (H) | 15/16 | +2.8 | | Mildenhall | Altrincham (A) | 14/15 | +2.5 | | Parkes | Altrincham (H) | 14/15 | +2.5 | | Taylor | Wycombe (H) | 15/16 | +2.5 |
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Post by I Voted For Kodos on Sept 10, 2019 8:58:01 GMT
Just to address some of the discussion that has been going on in this thread.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion on these threads and no-one needs any credentials to post. Discussion is encouraged as it is often interesting to hear the reasoning behind a poster's ratings.
Also, I fully expect people to have biases towards or against some players. For example, looking over a season it is easy to notice Henbury's love for Nichols and Hugo's disdain of Craig to name just two examples.
Part of the great thing about so many more posters this season is the that these individual biases will for the most part average out. The final rating will be akin to a 'wisdom of the crowd' (or Francis Galton's ox) estimate of a player's true performance. And though I love diving into the ratings, they are just a bit of fun and shouldn't be taken too seriously.
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