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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2019 10:57:30 GMT
You've got to love Labour.........no, stop laughing, you really do! They bang on constantly about protecting worker's rights, and the first thing they do after losing the election is to sack most of the worker's in their HQ!
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Dec 19, 2019 11:00:48 GMT
He is not 'anti-gay'. He does not agree with gay marriage, which is a different thing. I think you'll find Oldie, looking at your past religion, that there are also a few billion followers of Mohamed who are in fact anti-gay, and not just marriage. In some parts of the Muslim world it will get you thrown off the top of a building. In others, you'll get canned by a gert big bamboo stick in public. In Iran, it used to get you hung from a crane. Looking at all that it hardly makes JRM the devil incarnate just because he disapproves of gay marriage. Christ, (excuse the irony) it's all a bit desperate isn't it? What on earth has pathetic religious belief and practice got to do with it? I believe he is a devout Catholic but that's only relevant if he brings his religious beliefs into play in his role in Parliament, I never claimed he did. I wont bore people with circumstances I found myself iunder back in 1975, I think it's obvious I am an atheist in belief and practice. So, ad Hugo states, he is a twat. He is also thick, lacks empathy and has contributed nothing, But he does bring his religious beliefs into parliament. It's his devout Catholicism that led him to vote against equal rights. |
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Post by peterparker on Dec 19, 2019 11:12:44 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2019 11:13:58 GMT
Christ, (excuse the irony) it's all a bit desperate isn't it? What on earth has pathetic religious belief and practice got to do with it? I believe he is a devout Catholic but that's only relevant if he brings his religious beliefs into play in his role in Parliament, I never claimed he did. I wont bore people with circumstances I found myself iunder back in 1975, I think it's obvious I am an atheist in belief and practice. So, ad Hugo states, he is a twat. He is also thick, lacks empathy and has contributed nothing, But he does bring his religious beliefs into parliament. It's his devout Catholicism that led him to vote against equal rights. I dont doubt it. But I, personally, never heard him say that as a basis for his decision. If he has said that, then he is even worse. Add religious fanatic to his charge sheet. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2019 11:17:29 GMT
Leftie Loonies voted for Corbyn, Right Wing, racist xenophobes voted for Johnson. Great innit. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2019 11:17:32 GMT
Christ, (excuse the irony) it's all a bit desperate isn't it? What on earth has pathetic religious belief and practice got to do with it? I believe he is a devout Catholic but that's only relevant if he brings his religious beliefs into play in his role in Parliament, I never claimed he did. I wont bore people with circumstances I found myself iunder back in 1975, I think it's obvious I am an atheist in belief and practice. So, ad Hugo states, he is a twat. He is also thick, lacks empathy and has contributed nothing, But he does bring his religious beliefs into parliament. It's his devout Catholicism that led him to vote against equal rights. What are you saying Hugo. No Roman Catholics in Parliament? No Muslims either? There are probably some other religions that shouldn't be in there as well. St Tony Blair of Blair was also a Catholic. |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Dec 19, 2019 11:20:32 GMT
But he does bring his religious beliefs into parliament. It's his devout Catholicism that led him to vote against equal rights. What are you saying Hugo. No Roman Catholics in Parliament? No Muslims either? There are probably some other religions that shouldn't be in there as well. St Tony Blair of Blair was also a Catholic. I'm advocating for the separation of Church and state. MPs are supposed to represent their constituents, not themselves or a 2000 year old desert wizard. The bible is an immoral old story book and has no place in modern law making. |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Dec 19, 2019 11:21:39 GMT
And nor does any other religion I might add.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2019 11:22:05 GMT
What are you saying Hugo. No Roman Catholics in Parliament? No Muslims either? There are probably some other religions that shouldn't be in there as well. St Tony Blair of Blair was also a Catholic. I'm advocating for the separation of Church and state. MPs are supposed to represent their constituents, not themselves or a 2000 year old desert wizard. The bible is an immoral old story book and has no place in modern law making. Absolutely sir. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2019 11:26:09 GMT
So the PM has the full support of Tommy Robinson? Says it all really. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2019 11:28:29 GMT
I'm advocating for the separation of Church and state. MPs are supposed to represent their constituents, not themselves or a 2000 year old desert wizard. The bible is an immoral old story book and has no place in modern law making. Absolutely sir. So you are both saying it was wrong for MP's in a Leave constituency to vote to Remain in Parliament? I'm lost now Oldie. This is not what you were arguing earlier in the Brexit campaign? You are being just a tad hypocritical here, just so that it suits your current argument. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2019 11:28:56 GMT
Leftie Loonies voted for Corbyn, Right Wing, racist xenophobes voted for Johnson. Great innit. What a time to be alive |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2019 11:29:00 GMT
So the PM has the full support of Tommy Robinson? Says it all really. It actually say nothing does it. |
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Post by trevorgas on Dec 19, 2019 11:29:05 GMT
I'm advocating for the separation of Church and state. MPs are supposed to represent their constituents, not themselves or a 2000 year old desert wizard. The bible is an immoral old story book and has no place in modern law making. Absolutely sir. Henry V111th began the process of separating the Church from the States and other than the perfunctory Bishops in the Lords it's more or less complate. There has to be room in Parliament for all and I can't really think of a decision in recent times that has been driven by Religion. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2019 11:32:47 GMT
So you are both saying it was wrong for MP's in a Leave constituency to vote to Remain in Parliament? I'm lost now Oldie. This is not what you were arguing earlier in the Brexit campaign? You are being just a tad hypocritical here, just so that it suits your current argument. No sir. An MP has to consider what's best for their constituents, it's both their moral and constitutional duty. If their constituents are unhappy with their MP's then they vote them out. Which is what happened. That's democracy at work. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2019 11:34:30 GMT
So the PM has the full support of Tommy Robinson? Says it all really. It actually say nothing does it. Oh but it does. It tells us that the hard right, racist and xenophobic members of our society feel entirely at home in the Conservative Party. That's what it tells us. |
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Post by William Wilson on Dec 19, 2019 11:38:55 GMT
nobby playing semantics again. Mogg is anti gay-rights, simple as that. What makes me smile is how, despite claims made against me for being rude and arrogant, Nobby and William resort to invoking my personal life either as justification for their views, or attempts at rather pathetic 5th form humour. The reason I have occasionally in the past invoked your personal life, is because of the never ending dichotomy of what you say, and what you do. Contrary to the assertion that you " wont bore people with circumstances I found myself under back in 1975", it`s a bit late for that; you`ve already told us. It was for pecuniary gain. You converted to a faith that has the most anti gay views possible. Then you criticise JRM for holding views that aren`t in the same ballpark as your adopted brethren. Hypocrisy, thy name is Fry. Anyone who looks at your posts, and is then persuaded as a result to follow your left of centre credo, must be easily swayed. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2019 11:41:28 GMT
Henry V111th began the process of separating the Church from the States and other than the perfunctory Bishops in the Lords it's more or less complate. There has to be room in Parliament for all and I can't really think of a decision in recent times that has been driven by Religion. I think, in reality, it was the 1960s' was when religion was finally squeezed from our legislative considerations. To revoke the law under which one's choice of sexual partner was illegal, to pass a law which allowed women to determine their own life choices, these changed things, finally. But disease lives on in people like Rees-Mogg. |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Dec 19, 2019 11:42:25 GMT
So you are both saying it was wrong for MP's in a Leave constituency to vote to Remain in Parliament? I'm lost now Oldie. This is not what you were arguing earlier in the Brexit campaign? You are being just a tad hypocritical here, just so that it suits your current argument. Where have I mentioned brexit? For the record, if a constancy voted leave, then yes their MP should honor that. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2019 11:46:25 GMT
It actually say nothing does it. Oh but it does. It tells us that the hard right, racist and xenophobic members of our society feel entirely at home in the Conservative Party. That's what it tells us. Does it also tell us that the hard left, communist supporting murderers of over 200 million people are entirely at home in the Labour Party? Of course it doesn't and this is just nonsense talk. |
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