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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2019 7:35:42 GMT
Watson steps down. A moderate bites the dust. Only a moderate when compared to the extreme left that control Labour. Watson is not one of the good guys. Good riddance I say. |
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Post by William Wilson on Nov 7, 2019 7:54:37 GMT
Watson steps down. A moderate bites the dust. It`s like Deja Vu, all over again. Now it`s Momentum. Then it was Militant Tendency. The problem that the hard left have, is that the different factions hate each other as much as they hate the right. A bit like the Judean Peoples Front etc. |
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Post by peterparker on Nov 7, 2019 8:27:37 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2019 8:44:58 GMT
The amazing thing is that yesterday the Labour NEC dropped three candidates from standing. Apparently, and this is quite extraordinary, they are still discussing whether to allow the Keith Vaz aka Jim the washing machine salesman, from standing! This surely is a no-brainer? He should be hounded out from ever holding a public office ever again !
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2019 8:53:56 GMT
Holy sh1t! These were the words of Corbyn yesterday...
""Think of the young people who are given the subliminal message to look after your own education and look after your own health forget about council housing, make your own way in the world.
"It’s depressing, it’s unnecessary and it’s all part of the contraction of the public realm and the public state. It’s within our grasp to do something different in this election, and that’s what we are absolutely determined to achieve."
So, the message to the young is not to work hard, don't worry about your health, we'll give you a council home, don't worry about anything because a Labour government will provide everything you need.
This really is depressing.
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Nov 7, 2019 9:05:21 GMT
Holy sh1t! These were the words of Corbyn yesterday... ""Think of the young people who are given the subliminal message to look after your own education and look after your own health forget about council housing, make your own way in the world. "It’s depressing, it’s unnecessary and it’s all part of the contraction of the public realm and the public state. It’s within our grasp to do something different in this election, and that’s what we are absolutely determined to achieve." So, the message to the young is not to work hard, don't worry about your health, we'll give you a council home, don't worry about anything because a Labour government will provide everything you need. This really is depressing. Yes, looking after those who would otherwise end up homeless is super depressing. Expecting a decent level of education is depressing too. Nobody aspires to live on the poverty line but for those who get there through luck or chemistry shouldn't be abandoned. What is depressing is walking through the streets of England at the moment and seeing the incredible amount of homelessness. Or having letters sent home from school begging for money for supplies. How long have you lived in Germany now? Do you get to come back and spend much time here in this country? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2019 9:09:05 GMT
Holy sh1t! These were the words of Corbyn yesterday... ""Think of the young people who are given the subliminal message to look after your own education and look after your own health forget about council housing, make your own way in the world. "It’s depressing, it’s unnecessary and it’s all part of the contraction of the public realm and the public state. It’s within our grasp to do something different in this election, and that’s what we are absolutely determined to achieve." So, the message to the young is not to work hard, don't worry about your health, we'll give you a council home, don't worry about anything because a Labour government will provide everything you need. This really is depressing. Yes, looking after those who would otherwise end up homeless is super depressing. Expecting a decent level of education is depressing too. Nobody aspires to live on the poverty line but for those who get there through luck or chemistry shouldn't be abandoned. What is depressing is walking through the streets of England at the moment and seeing the incredible amount of homelessness. Or having letters sent home from school begging for money for supplies. How long have you lived in Germany now? Do you get to come back and spend much time here in this country? Yes, I do. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2019 9:12:42 GMT
Multi-millionaire Corbyn has done alright out of the state over the past 30 years
Is he really gonna give a feck when he retires on his £1.6 million pension
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2019 9:16:54 GMT
Multi-millionaire Corbyn has done alright out of the state over the past 30 years Is he really gonna give a feck when he retires on his £1.6 million pension Apparently, he owns two homes - Labour going after owners of more than one home. Inherited most of his 3m quid from his parents - Labour raising inheritance tax. Sent his three kids to private school - Labour want to do away with private schools. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2019 9:17:45 GMT
Holy sh1t! These were the words of Corbyn yesterday... ""Think of the young people who are given the subliminal message to look after your own education and look after your own health forget about council housing, make your own way in the world. "It’s depressing, it’s unnecessary and it’s all part of the contraction of the public realm and the public state. It’s within our grasp to do something different in this election, and that’s what we are absolutely determined to achieve." So, the message to the young is not to work hard, don't worry about your health, we'll give you a council home, don't worry about anything because a Labour government will provide everything you need. This really is depressing. You really are a nasty piece of work. Have you never heard of human rights? Why shouldn’t people be able to make a lifestyle choice to never work and expect the rest of us to subsidise their benefits, housing and health needs. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2019 9:36:34 GMT
Holy sh1t! These were the words of Corbyn yesterday... ""Think of the young people who are given the subliminal message to look after your own education and look after your own health forget about council housing, make your own way in the world. "It’s depressing, it’s unnecessary and it’s all part of the contraction of the public realm and the public state. It’s within our grasp to do something different in this election, and that’s what we are absolutely determined to achieve." So, the message to the young is not to work hard, don't worry about your health, we'll give you a council home, don't worry about anything because a Labour government will provide everything you need. This really is depressing. Yes, looking after those who would otherwise end up homeless is super depressing. Expecting a decent level of education is depressing too. Nobody aspires to live on the poverty line but for those who get there through luck or chemistry shouldn't be abandoned. What is depressing is walking through the streets of England at the moment and seeing the incredible amount of homelessness. Or having letters sent home from school begging for money for supplies. How long have you lived in Germany now? Do you get to come back and spend much time here in this country? Is it a worthy aspiration to have to use food banks, do you think? Is it an aspiration to be in work and barely afford to pay the rent? Is it an aspiration to cut 20,000 police officers, do you think? Is it an aspiration cut the budget for training nurses, is it an aspiration to have local authority budgets cut so much that they can no longer deliver services to their local communities? Is it an aspiration to vote for a party that delivers all of that and manages to double the national debt at the same time?? Some aspiration that. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2019 9:36:45 GMT
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Nov 7, 2019 9:39:12 GMT
British people are so depressing. Absolutely no compassion for anyone and would sooner see people made homeless than make sure the very wealthiest get taxed as they should. Would any of you make a 'lifestyle choice'to live on the poverty line? No I dont think so. Frankly, theres an argument there to say that we deserve sh** education and health services. We keep voting for it. Jesus wept.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2019 9:41:01 GMT
Holy sh1t! These were the words of Corbyn yesterday... ""Think of the young people who are given the subliminal message to look after your own education and look after your own health forget about council housing, make your own way in the world. "It’s depressing, it’s unnecessary and it’s all part of the contraction of the public realm and the public state. It’s within our grasp to do something different in this election, and that’s what we are absolutely determined to achieve." So, the message to the young is not to work hard, don't worry about your health, we'll give you a council home, don't worry about anything because a Labour government will provide everything you need. This really is depressing. I see a former labour minister has called on people to vote Boris as Corbyn is not fit to run the country. Pretty damning. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2019 9:43:19 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2019 9:49:52 GMT
British people are so depressing. Absolutely no compassion for anyone and would sooner see people made homeless than make sure the very wealthiest get taxed as they should. Would any of you make a 'lifestyle choice'to live on the poverty line? No I dont think so. Frankly, theres an argument there to say that we deserve sh** education and health services. We keep voting for it. Jesus wept. There are huge numbers who choose the benefit lifestyle. It’s become family tradition with several generations now following the same path and I don’t think the mindset will change. Anyone fit and healthy should not be allowed to be housed and paid in cash for doing nothing. I was bought up in a council house for the first two years of my life. My parents were extremely grateful, took pride in the property and worked their socks off to then move into a place of their own. Nobody seems to have that mindset these days. I’m all in favour of a decent benefit system that houses and affords those truly physically or mentally incapable of working and they should be paid far more than they receive at the moment. With regard to food banks I’d love some proper analysis to be undertaken. Of those using them how many smoke, how many of them drink, how many have chosen to have loads of kids they knew they couldn’t support, how many have satellite tv, how many run a car, how many take foreign holidays? Benefit should be paid in vouchers that can only be used for essentials. |
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Post by peterparker on Nov 7, 2019 9:52:23 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2019 9:55:40 GMT
British people are so depressing. Absolutely no compassion for anyone and would sooner see people made homeless than make sure the very wealthiest get taxed as they should. Would any of you make a 'lifestyle choice'to live on the poverty line? No I dont think so. Frankly, theres an argument there to say that we deserve sh** education and health services. We keep voting for it. Jesus wept. Why does it have to be so polarised? Seems like you either have to be like Mother Theresa or some sort of Hitler character. Why can there not be any understanding of a middle ground? There is plenty of compassion for those who suffer misfortune so such as ill health but life for those who work hard and pay ever more in taxes is becoming more frustrating when you see life’s wasters abusing the benefit system. A system that was once a temporary, last resort for those in difficulty but has been allowed to become a lifestyle choice for so many. |
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Post by trevorgas on Nov 7, 2019 9:57:05 GMT
British people are so depressing. Absolutely no compassion for anyone and would sooner see people made homeless than make sure the very wealthiest get taxed as they should. Would any of you make a 'lifestyle choice'to live on the poverty line? No I dont think so. Frankly, theres an argument there to say that we deserve sh** education and health services. We keep voting for it. Jesus wept. I think it's a lot more complex than that ,no political party since the Second War and probably before has delivered an underlying economy that is sustainable and benefits everyone in Society,the bitter truth is that all party's are so short term that Sustainable Public Services that are economically viable and deliver excellence are not achievable without a change in strategy. How about they all work together to develop a 25 year plan for the NHS and have a grown up conversation with us about how to fund it, won't happen because of their own ego's and political dogma. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2019 9:58:24 GMT
Yes, looking after those who would otherwise end up homeless is super depressing. Expecting a decent level of education is depressing too. Nobody aspires to live on the poverty line but for those who get there through luck or chemistry shouldn't be abandoned. What is depressing is walking through the streets of England at the moment and seeing the incredible amount of homelessness. Or having letters sent home from school begging for money for supplies. How long have you lived in Germany now? Do you get to come back and spend much time here in this country? Is it a worthy aspiration to have to use food banks, do you think? Is it an aspiration to be in work and barely afford to pay the rent? Is it an aspiration to cut 20,000 police officers, do you think? Is it an aspiration cut the budget for training nurses, is it an aspiration to have local authority budgets cut so much that they can no longer deliver services to their local communities? Is it an aspiration to vote for a party that delivers all of that and manages to double the national debt at the same time?? Some aspiration that. I think you'll find that it is Corbyn who does 'aspiration'. After saying he would get rid of student debt at the last election, he had to backtrack and claimed it was just 'an aspiration'. You are also behind the times. The Tories have already started to recruit 20,000 Police Officers. Labour has promised 10,000 Police Officers. You and Officer Brady are also missing the point (yet again). Corbyn is saying that young people do not need to work hard. They need council houses. They don't need to look after their health. They need bigger State. The State will provide. If people stopped working hard and paying taxes, then I don't know where the money will come from to pay for all of this. |
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