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Post by stuart1974 on Dec 1, 2019 12:39:35 GMT
Less harm than has been inflicted since 2010? Well, if you think he`ll do more harm to this country than JC, you know what to do. If BJ gets a decent majority he'll be here for 4 years at least. If not, JC will be in a shakey coalition for 18 months tops. |
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Post by peterparker on Dec 1, 2019 13:00:39 GMT
Well, if you think he`ll do more harm to this country than JC, you know what to do. If BJ gets a decent majority he'll be here for 4 years at least. If not, JC will be in a shakey coalition for 18 months tops. yeah. Hung Paliament prob means an election in 2 years, prob with a change if Labour leader |
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Post by stuart1974 on Dec 1, 2019 13:16:14 GMT
If BJ gets a decent majority he'll be here for 4 years at least. If not, JC will be in a shakey coalition for 18 months tops. yeah. Hung Paliament prob means an election in 2 years, prob with a change if Labour leader Not convinced yet that it will happen, but JC stepping down could be the price exacted by coalition (or confidence and supply) partners. Hypothetically, I would expect JC stepping down, STV version of PR and votes for 16 and 17 year olds (Lib Dems demands) and IndyRef2 legislation delegated to the Scottish Parliament (SNP). |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2019 13:52:01 GMT
yeah. Hung Paliament prob means an election in 2 years, prob with a change if Labour leader Not convinced yet that it will happen, but JC stepping down could be the price exacted by coalition (or confidence and supply) partners. Hypothetically, I would expect JC stepping down, STV version of PR and votes for 16 and 17 year olds (Lib Dems demands) and IndyRef2 legislation delegated to the Scottish Parliament (SNP). That could be quite a result then for those against a Johnson Tory government? Surely the price for a Labour coalition government would be no Corbyn and less radical policies? Sturgeon seemed to be making noises about trying to keep Labour in check as part of a collation. Recent polling suggests this election won’t even be close though so it’s about as hypothetical as you can get. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2019 14:39:28 GMT
I actually dont think Johnson has the intellect to do much at all. However its who and what he represents as the "useful" buffoon that bothers me. Bothers you more than his only credible opponent? You keep on about the damage done to this country since 2010. I ask myself, if JC had been in charge for those years ( or even for five of them ) would this country be in better shape, or worse? I know what I think, and I`ll vote accordingly. You will vote on a hypothetical, historical, assertion? Interesting There is only one fact on the table, the running down of public services since 2010. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2019 14:42:27 GMT
Pienaar: PM distancing himself from years of Tory rule flip.it/E71VjzSo He is running away from analytical interviews, now he trying to run away from his Pary's past!! Buffoon. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2019 15:31:31 GMT
Bothers you more than his only credible opponent? You keep on about the damage done to this country since 2010. I ask myself, if JC had been in charge for those years ( or even for five of them ) would this country be in better shape, or worse? I know what I think, and I`ll vote accordingly. You will vote on a hypothetical, historical, assertion? Interesting There is only one fact on the table, the running down of public services since 2010. And who would put money on an improvement in the next 5 years under Johnson? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2019 15:57:19 GMT
If for a change polls are correct and Boris wins will Corbyn be standing down? If he does, which direction will labour take? Will it be a more moderate type taking over or have the likes of Len McClusky got the party in such a stranglehold that another far left extremist will take control?
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Post by aghast on Dec 1, 2019 18:44:42 GMT
I have a feeling, based on nothing, that Boris will do very badly in the real opinion poll - the General Election.
He's a chancer and a comedian and he entertains people. But no-one takes him seriously. No-one who followed his career ever did, but the 'I'd rather be dead in a ditch' comment, and the identikit Theresa May deal he said he would never support but has, are not going to get Brexit votes.
I don't think many take Jezza seriously either, although his new referendum offer will entice a few.
I think it'll be a minority Tory government. Short-lived, with another GE inside a year.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2019 21:13:48 GMT
I have a feeling, based on nothing, that Boris will do very badly in the real opinion poll - the General Election. He's a chancer and a comedian and he entertains people. But no-one takes him seriously. No-one who followed his career ever did, but the 'I'd rather be dead in a ditch' comment, and the identikit Theresa May deal he said he would never support but has, are not going to get Brexit votes. I don't think many take Jezza seriously either, although his new referendum offer will entice a few. I think it'll be a minority Tory government. Short-lived, with another GE inside a year. I hope you’re right but (imo) he has performed poorly in the debates and interviews I’ve seen (not that anyone else has fared much better) yet just when you think he’s had a really bad showing his approval rating increases. So it seems to me there would have to be a serious change of intent for him not to win at least a slim majority. |
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Post by peterparker on Dec 1, 2019 21:17:02 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2019 22:15:29 GMT
Liar General Election 2019: Boris Johnson's interview with Andrew Marr fact-checked flip.it/3SF7j4 |
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Post by aghast on Dec 1, 2019 23:03:06 GMT
Liar General Election 2019: Boris Johnson's interview with Andrew Marr fact-checked flip.it/3SF7j4The weird thing about Boris is that he actually answers some difficult questions in political interviews, unlike other leaders here. It doesn't matter if the answers are misleading or complete lies. He doesn't care. He's seen how Trump can get away with anything, and Boris has been doing this for his whole career. A very dangerous man if ever faced with a serious political/military situation. How anyone, regardless of their views, could support him is beyond me. |
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Post by William Wilson on Dec 2, 2019 8:00:31 GMT
Liar General Election 2019: Boris Johnson's interview with Andrew Marr fact-checked flip.it/3SF7j4The weird thing about Boris is that he actually answers some difficult questions in political interviews, unlike other leaders here. It doesn't matter if the answers are misleading or complete lies. He doesn't care. He's seen how Trump can get away with anything, and Boris has been doing this for his whole career. A very dangerous man if ever faced with a serious political/military situation. How anyone, regardless of their views, could support him is beyond me. Not sure too many people do support him. They just think the alternative is worse. Who gets your vote then? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2019 8:30:38 GMT
The weird thing about Boris is that he actually answers some difficult questions in political interviews, unlike other leaders here. It doesn't matter if the answers are misleading or complete lies. He doesn't care. He's seen how Trump can get away with anything, and Boris has been doing this for his whole career. A very dangerous man if ever faced with a serious political/military situation. How anyone, regardless of their views, could support him is beyond me. Not sure too many people do support him. They just think the alternative is worse. Who gets your vote then? Let's take the two leaders (cough) out of it. Which POLICIES would you support? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2019 9:54:49 GMT
"The father of victim Jack Merritt shared a post calling the PM’s response “beyond disgusting” and pleaded: “Don’t use my son’s death.”
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Post by aghast on Dec 2, 2019 9:59:18 GMT
The weird thing about Boris is that he actually answers some difficult questions in political interviews, unlike other leaders here. It doesn't matter if the answers are misleading or complete lies. He doesn't care. He's seen how Trump can get away with anything, and Boris has been doing this for his whole career. A very dangerous man if ever faced with a serious political/military situation. How anyone, regardless of their views, could support him is beyond me. Not sure too many people do support him. They just think the alternative is worse. Who gets your vote then? I honestly haven't decided yet, but it won't be Boris. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2019 10:27:31 GMT
Not sure too many people do support him. They just think the alternative is worse. Who gets your vote then? Let's take the two leaders (cough) out of it. Which POLICIES would you support? It has to be Tory as I cannot see how the economic destruction of the UK will ever help 'our NHS' or the poor. |
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Post by peterparker on Dec 2, 2019 10:31:22 GMT
something to brighten up a cold Monday morning
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2019 11:07:26 GMT
Let's take the two leaders (cough) out of it. Which POLICIES would you support? It has to be Tory as I cannot see how the economic destruction of the UK will ever help 'our NHS' or the poor. But which specific policy or policies? |
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