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Post by Officer Barbrady on Dec 9, 2019 20:41:10 GMT
Well given he was under the care of a GP and either deteriorated or didnt improve they likely sent him in to the nearest place that has a paediatrician and most likely for a septic screen. Stuff you send children in to A&E for basically. So his GP sent him to A&E when all he had was the flu?.....on a Saturday night. His GP sent him to A and E with a suspected pneumonia to see a paediatrician. The hospital gave him oxygen. Nobby, appreciate you're not a medical professional, but humour me. Why do you think medical tests and specialisms exist? Oh and just a little trade secret for you. Day of the week doesnt normally contribute to a working diagnosis for children. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 20:43:46 GMT
So his GP sent him to A&E when all he had was the flu?.....on a Saturday night. His GP sent him to A and E with a suspected pneumonia to see a paediatrician. The hospital gave him oxygen. Nobby, appreciate you're not a medical professional, but humour me. Why do you think medical tests and specialisms exist? Oh and just a little trade secret for you. Day of the week doesnt normally contribute to a working diagnosis for children. I am humouring you. Why does anyone think this is the PM's responsibility when that falls on the Trust? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 20:46:36 GMT
You are right there is one rule for one and one rule for the other. Deliberate cheating and fraudulent claiming of benefit funded by hardworking taxpayers is ILLEGAL. Avoiding paying more tax than you otherwise would have done by using by existing, legitimate tax laws is LEGAL. So bizarrely two different sets of circumstances are viewed differently. Funny old world. In other news a low income individual commits an armed robbery and gets five years in prison. A wealthy banker forgets to pay his tv license and gets a small fine. What a disgusting society. Two criminals sentenced according to their class. One rule for rich, one rule for the poor. But if it were fraudulent Eric they would surely be getting prosecuted wouldnt they? Are you talking benefit cheats or tax evaders? Either way both illegal and require prosecution to act as deterrents. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Dec 9, 2019 20:46:41 GMT
His GP sent him to A and E with a suspected pneumonia to see a paediatrician. The hospital gave him oxygen. Nobby, appreciate you're not a medical professional, but humour me. Why do you think medical tests and specialisms exist? Oh and just a little trade secret for you. Day of the week doesnt normally contribute to a working diagnosis for children. I am humouring you. Why does anyone think this is the PM's responsibility when that falls on the Trust? As someone who has been in that situation more times than I care to remember, and most likely will again this winter, it is not something to be humouring someone about. |
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Dec 9, 2019 20:48:11 GMT
His GP sent him to A and E with a suspected pneumonia to see a paediatrician. The hospital gave him oxygen. Nobby, appreciate you're not a medical professional, but humour me. Why do you think medical tests and specialisms exist? Oh and just a little trade secret for you. Day of the week doesnt normally contribute to a working diagnosis for children. I am humouring you. Why does anyone think this is the PM's responsibility when that falls on the Trust? There I was thinking I was humouring you, what with you providing your expert medical opinion ... Do you think NHS trusts are independent? As in have no accountability or responsibility to act under the DoH? Funding, strategy? No? All completely independent and self funded. |
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Dec 9, 2019 20:48:56 GMT
But if it were fraudulent Eric they would surely be getting prosecuted wouldnt they? Are you talking benefit cheats or tax evaders? Either way both illegal and require prosecution to act as deterrents. benefits cheats. You seem to think the country is riddled with it so how many get prosecuted? |
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Dec 9, 2019 20:51:17 GMT
I am humouring you. Why does anyone think this is the PM's responsibility when that falls on the Trust? As someone who has been in that situation more times than I care to remember, and most likely will again this winter, it is not something to be humouring someone about. Nobby is desperately trying to discredit reports of the sad state of that NHS children's hospital, even questioning the clinical decision making from behind an accountancy desk in Germany. I wouldnt pay much attention to it Stuart. We know the truth. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 20:56:27 GMT
Inviting IRA members into parliament a couple of weeks after they tried to murder the whole government and wipeout any innocent bystanders. No sympathy. No Empathy. No Humanity. Maria Gatland The conservative counsellor? Never heard of her so just had a quick look and seems she had been the partner of a leading IRA member and so by association a member herself. Twenty odd years later I presume she had “rehabilitated” and went into politics. I have no power to accept or reject people to the Conservative party. If I did then she wouldn’t be touched with a barge pole - no second chances for the likes of her. Anyway, doesn’t really compare to the man now being touted as the saviour of the UK inviting an IRA member into the House weeks after the bombing when many were still grieving, receiving treatment or fighting for their lives. No amount of passing time can excuse his vile actions and should always be held against him. Some might be able to brush this off as shenanigans or high jinx in different times but I’m certainly not. It would be the biggest embarrassment in this country’s history were he to be elected to lead us and represent us around the world. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 21:00:09 GMT
Well given he was under the care of a GP and either deteriorated or didnt improve they likely sent him in to the nearest place that has a paediatrician and most likely for a septic screen. Stuff you send children in to A&E for basically. So his GP sent him to A&E when all he had was the flu?.....on a Saturday night. And if the GP had not and the child subsequently died of Sepsis, or actually Meningitis was the risk? Are you actually suggesting the GP should have risked it? Or even more unbelievably, suggest we cannot take care of our kids on a Saturday night?? FFS |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 21:03:26 GMT
As someone who has been in that situation more times than I care to remember, and most likely will again this winter, it is not something to be humouring someone about. Nobby is desperately trying to discredit reports of the sad state of that NHS children's hospital, even questioning the clinical decision making from behind an accountancy desk in Germany. I wouldnt pay much attention to it Stuart. We know the truth. It's hard to believe isn't it. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 21:05:54 GMT
Are you talking benefit cheats or tax evaders? Either way both illegal and require prosecution to act as deterrents. benefits cheats. You seem to think the country is riddled with it so how many get prosecuted? If the post on here was correct and £2billion is lost then we clearly have a problem. You will know better than me how many medical professionals could be trained and employed with that amount of money or how many vital pieces of equipment could be purchased so we shouldn’t make light of it. We keep getting told about NHS under funding by the Tories but little gets mentioned by the left in respect of how much money we waste that could be redirected to the NHS. That £2bn figure would presumably only take into account those caught, many thousands of others will be getting away with disability benefit fraud and thousands more making a lifestyle choices not to work. On a slight tangent, out of interest as a member of the NHS do you have any idea how much money disappears out of the NHS with compensation claims. I hate seeing ambulance chasing lawyers with their tv adverts encouraging people to sue the NHS. |
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Dec 9, 2019 21:11:44 GMT
benefits cheats. You seem to think the country is riddled with it so how many get prosecuted? If the post on here was correct and £2billion is lost then we clearly have a problem. You will know better than me how many medical professionals could be trained and employed with that amount of money or how many vital pieces of equipment could be purchased so we shouldn’t make light of it. We keep getting told about NHS under funding by the Tories but little gets mentioned by the left in respect of how much money we waste that could be redirected to the NHS. That £2bn figure would presumably only take into account those caught, many thousands of others will be getting away with disability benefit fraud and thousands more making a lifestyle choices not to work. On a slight tangent, out of interest as a member of the NHS do you have any idea how much money disappears out of the NHS with compensation claims. I hate seeing ambulance chasing lawyers with their tv adverts encouraging people to sue the NHS. Yes I know a little of that. It's big. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 21:51:28 GMT
The conservative counsellor? Never heard of her so just had a quick look and seems she had been the partner of a leading IRA member and so by association a member herself. Twenty odd years later I presume she had “rehabilitated” and went into politics. I have no power to accept or reject people to the Conservative party. If I did then she wouldn’t be touched with a barge pole - no second chances for the likes of her. Anyway, doesn’t really compare to the man now being touted as the saviour of the UK inviting an IRA member into the House weeks after the bombing when many were still grieving, receiving treatment or fighting for their lives. No amount of passing time can excuse his vile actions and should always be held against him. Some might be able to brush this off as shenanigans or high jinx in different times but I’m certainly not. It would be the biggest embarrassment in this country’s history were he to be elected to lead us and represent us around the world. Yes, for you- but not for the Tory party which is happy to count her amongst their ranks as a councillor. So Tories throwing stones at Corbyn is undermined somewhat when their party is happy to still have someone associated with all of that as an employee of theirs. What we need now is for Guido Fawkes to do a video where he tells Tories that Corbyn said “I agree with the shooting of British soldiers and believe that the more who are killed the better” and then do the shock reveal where you tell them it was actually one of their councillors. I wonder how they would react? |
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Post by stuart1974 on Dec 9, 2019 22:36:29 GMT
As someone who has been in that situation more times than I care to remember, and most likely will again this winter, it is not something to be humouring someone about. Nobby is desperately trying to discredit reports of the sad state of that NHS children's hospital, even questioning the clinical decision making from behind an accountancy desk in Germany. I wouldnt pay much attention to it Stuart. We know the truth. I know and I usually just roll my eyes, but I've seen similar myself and also the dangers of flu and pneumonia. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Dec 9, 2019 22:44:42 GMT
Nobby is desperately trying to discredit reports of the sad state of that NHS children's hospital, even questioning the clinical decision making from behind an accountancy desk in Germany. I wouldnt pay much attention to it Stuart. We know the truth. It's hard to believe isn't it. I see Peston has had to apologise for tweeting info fed to him by 'Tory sources'. This campaign is awful in the distraction and disinformation, George Orwell was ahead of his time. @peston It is completely clear from video footage that @matthancock's adviser was not whacked by a protestor, as I was told by senior Tories, but that he inadvertently walked into a protestor's hand. I apologise for getting this wrong. 6:06 pm · 9 Dec 2019 |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 22:48:54 GMT
The conservative counsellor? Never heard of her so just had a quick look and seems she had been the partner of a leading IRA member and so by association a member herself. Twenty odd years later I presume she had “rehabilitated” and went into politics. I have no power to accept or reject people to the Conservative party. If I did then she wouldn’t be touched with a barge pole - no second chances for the likes of her. Anyway, doesn’t really compare to the man now being touted as the saviour of the UK inviting an IRA member into the House weeks after the bombing when many were still grieving, receiving treatment or fighting for their lives. No amount of passing time can excuse his vile actions and should always be held against him. Some might be able to brush this off as shenanigans or high jinx in different times but I’m certainly not. It would be the biggest embarrassment in this country’s history were he to be elected to lead us and represent us around the world. Yes, for you- but not for the Tory party which is happy to count her amongst their ranks as a councillor. So Tories throwing stones at Corbyn is undermined somewhat when their party is happy to still have someone associated with all of that as an employee of theirs. What we need now is for Guido Fawkes to do a video where he tells Tories that Corbyn said “I agree with the shooting of British soldiers and believe that the more who are killed the better” and then do the shock reveal where you tell them it was actually one of their councillors. I wonder how they would react? Same reaction as me I’d imagine - wouldn’t want anyone like that in the party. Just a good job she hasn’t worked her way up to party leadership and potential to become pm, now that would be embarrassing. Luckily the party has more class than to allow a terrorist sympathiser to become their leader - unlike certain others!!! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 22:57:52 GMT
It's hard to believe isn't it. I see Peston has had to apologise for tweeting info fed to him by 'Tory sources'. This campaign is awful in the distraction and disinformation, George Orwell was ahead of his time. @peston It is completely clear from video footage that @matthancock's adviser was not whacked by a protestor, as I was told by senior Tories, but that he inadvertently walked into a protestor's hand. I apologise for getting this wrong. 6:06 pm · 9 Dec 2019 It's truly depressing. |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Dec 9, 2019 23:17:50 GMT
Easy decision for me. Have to vote Tories as they are blue.
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Dec 9, 2019 23:54:33 GMT
Yes, for you- but not for the Tory party which is happy to count her amongst their ranks as a councillor. So Tories throwing stones at Corbyn is undermined somewhat when their party is happy to still have someone associated with all of that as an employee of theirs. What we need now is for Guido Fawkes to do a video where he tells Tories that Corbyn said “I agree with the shooting of British soldiers and believe that the more who are killed the better” and then do the shock reveal where you tell them it was actually one of their councillors. I wonder how they would react? Same reaction as me I’d imagine - wouldn’t want anyone like that in the party. Just a good job she hasn’t worked her way up to party leadership and potential to become pm, now that would be embarrassing. Luckily the party has more class than to allow a terrorist sympathiser to become their leader - unlike certain others!!! |
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Dec 9, 2019 23:55:42 GMT
The Tory party has class - oh please . 🤣😂😅🤣😂😀
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