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Post by tomylil on Nov 19, 2019 14:11:15 GMT
Where's Dwane registered again remind me and how much do the AQ's pay the UK government in tax ?I think Lansdown's a smug f**ker but like it or not his business employed over 1,000 tax payers some of whom are no doubt gas, paid millions in business rates and I daresay he paid a few bob to HMRC himself. He should complain as should Bristol ratepayers if Rees spunks millions to help out what is supposed to be a commercial enterprise that is patently not supported by many Bristolians. We have hundreds of people sleeping rough and the worst public transport system of any major UK city. We also need more police on the streets and he could divert money in that direction. Redevelop St Philips by all means but blinkers off, what would 90% of Bristolians actually gain from a football stadium occupied by Rovers ? As for the Duke of Guernsey, also remember that everyone BUT BRFC was behind the world cup bid so he's hardly likely to feel warm towards us is he ? A few nimby's scuppered a perfectly reasonable stadium plan in Ashton Vale funded by private money so what do you think will happen in this instance? As for the comment before by HG about Rees electioneering, this is politiical suicide and he will be swept out of office anyway and may actually lose many of the new Bristolians who love him but hate football. Sorry and all that but its a f**king disgrace if it goes as some think it will. You only pay tax though if you make a profit. And we don't, far from it. So why operate offshore ? I don't have a problem with Dwane being where they are just the double standards when we point at Lansdown being offshore. To be honest, if I was fabulously wealthy, had paid millions in income tax for 40 years and then had the choice of spending a big chunk of my wedge on Rovers or hand it to whatever government is in power to give it away to other countries, I would possibly go the same way.
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Post by tomylil on Nov 19, 2019 14:15:52 GMT
This holier than thou stuff make me laugh . Have you ever seen OTIB? Haha I have seen it and some of the names they have been calling me. Shocking stuff...!
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Post by Henbury Gas on Nov 19, 2019 14:17:51 GMT
Haha I have seen it and some of the names they have been calling me. Shocking stuff...! people on OTIB just love me
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Post by tomylil on Nov 19, 2019 14:19:29 GMT
Out of interest how much profit have BRFC made under the Dwane banner so far in your estimation? Hmmm.. I would estimate approximately Jackshit give or take a sh**. Not the point though. We can't point at Lansdown being offshore when our own holding company is doing exactly the same thing.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Nov 19, 2019 14:20:53 GMT
Haha I have seen it and some of the names they have been calling me. Shocking stuff...! people on OTIB just love me Exactly the same here, too.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Nov 19, 2019 15:17:07 GMT
Out of interest how much profit have BRFC made under the Dwane banner so far in your estimation? Hmmm.. I would estimate approximately Jackshit give or take a sh**. Not the point though. We can't point at Lansdown being offshore when our own holding company is doing exactly the same thing. It can also be argued that Wael tried too do things by employing experts only to see them leave. The guy who is behind the Wembley build, I’m told, told the family the project was not feasible and fairly quickly. Wasn’t his name Dubey or am I getting mixed up as there was a revolving door of experts coming then going. The biggest hurdle is not the council as they have been supportive of both clubs but the NIMBY masses have put pay to so much. It does anger me that most are not born and bred here but seem to be the ones who mobilise and actually do things. I’m afraid we have always had an apathetic fanbase and we have not taken the initiative in seeing the complaints and petitions coming. We, me included, are good at having a moan but actually doing something has shown to be poorly backed. We really do need either a revamped SC or for someone such as the FFSC to get us united and all going in the same direction but I won’t hold my breath as this forum has thousands of users and many, me included again, have asked for help but don’t join the FFSC. I can at least say I’ve been a member since it’s inception and think it would be a great vehicle to use as an alternative to the defunct SC
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 19, 2019 16:25:54 GMT
Hmmm.. I would estimate approximately Jackshit give or take a sh**. Not the point though. We can't point at Lansdown being offshore when our own holding company is doing exactly the same thing. It can also be argued that Wael tried too do things by employing experts only to see them leave. The guy who is behind the Wembley build, I’m told, told the family the project was not feasible and fairly quickly. Wasn’t his name Dubey or am I getting mixed up as there was a revolving door of experts coming then going. The biggest hurdle is not the council as they have been supportive of both clubs but the NIMBY masses have put pay to so much. It does anger me that most are not born and bred here but seem to be the ones who mobilise and actually do things. I’m afraid we have always had an apathetic fanbase and we have not taken the initiative in seeing the complaints and petitions coming. We, me included, are good at having a moan but actually doing something has shown to be poorly backed. We really do need either a revamped SC or for someone such as the FFSC to get us united and all going in the same direction but I won’t hold my breath as this forum has thousands of users and many, me included again, have asked for help but don’t join the FFSC. I can at least say I’ve been a member since it’s inception and think it would be a great vehicle to use as an alternative to the defunct SC Will Dubey is the analyst, the Wembley stadium man was Michael Cunnah. As I understand it, which isn't much, planning won't be a significant problem. It is all dependant on buying the Fruit Market first and perhaps if what has been suggested by others on Gasheads, the purchase of the club from DS.
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Post by faggotygas on Nov 19, 2019 19:55:55 GMT
Ok, well ignoring the tents, the club did purchase a number of stands - a whole stadium's worth, in fact. What's the difference bwetween buying a ready-made stadium, and buiding one yourself? Yes, well done to the previous board for doing so. However, they can be criticised for not seizing the opportunity that fell into their lap and helping drive the club forward. Instead we spunked a load of money on wages and a promotion bid that never came to fruition and tumbled down the league ending up scrapping against relegation to the Conference for a 4/5 year period. So, that was fun. Can't argue with that
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Post by Captain Jayho on Nov 19, 2019 19:57:25 GMT
Out of interest how much profit have BRFC made under the Dwane banner so far in your estimation? Hmmm.. I would estimate approximately Jackshit give or take a sh**. Not the point though. We can't point at Lansdown being offshore when our own holding company is doing exactly the same thing. I'm sure someone with greater understanding of this area can set me straight on this but it seems like exactly the point. Lansdown would be withholding millions in tax from the UK each year by being offshore. BRFC are withholding diddly-squat in tax from the UK. I'm not trying to point out that we are holier than though, I'm sure we're far from it, but to the untrained eye the two positions don't seem that comparable at the moment.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Nov 20, 2019 11:36:18 GMT
It can also be argued that Wael tried too do things by employing experts only to see them leave. The guy who is behind the Wembley build, I’m told, told the family the project was not feasible and fairly quickly. Wasn’t his name Dubey or am I getting mixed up as there was a revolving door of experts coming then going. The biggest hurdle is not the council as they have been supportive of both clubs but the NIMBY masses have put pay to so much. It does anger me that most are not born and bred here but seem to be the ones who mobilise and actually do things. I’m afraid we have always had an apathetic fanbase and we have not taken the initiative in seeing the complaints and petitions coming. We, me included, are good at having a moan but actually doing something has shown to be poorly backed. We really do need either a revamped SC or for someone such as the FFSC to get us united and all going in the same direction but I won’t hold my breath as this forum has thousands of users and many, me included again, have asked for help but don’t join the FFSC. I can at least say I’ve been a member since it’s inception and think it would be a great vehicle to use as an alternative to the defunct SC Will Dubey is the analyst, the Wembley stadium man was Michael Cunnah. As I understand it, which isn't much, planning won't be a significant problem. It is all dependant on buying the Fruit Market first and perhaps if what has been suggested by others on Gasheads, the purchase of the club from DS. Thanks for that, I knew it was wrong but we did have a lot of people come and go. I think Dubey was made an executive director if memory serves ? I have no idea on the plans of what and how we will get this stadium as I just lost interest once the UWE was done. As usual, I’m back to hoping for the best but prepared for nothing to happen. I just don’t feel the need to do the digging anymore. None of us chose to support Rovers for glory and top class services but it’s been very difficult for those around my age and older, when you have seen so many plans go to dust.
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Post by gas2 on Nov 28, 2019 20:18:50 GMT
Just saying Portsmouth area asking their council for money to help rebuilding fratton park
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Post by aghast on Nov 28, 2019 21:04:33 GMT
Just saying Portsmouth area asking their council for money to help rebuilding fratton park It's a tricky one for a council with two sides in a city. I would think that most football fans (and others) might see the benefit of investing in the local side in Portsmouth, Southampton and Leeds. Not the case in Bristol, Sheffield and Nottingham.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 28, 2019 21:25:33 GMT
Just saying Portsmouth area asking their council for money to help rebuilding fratton park It's a tricky one for a council with two sides in a city. I would think that most football fans (and others) might see the benefit of investing in the local side in Portsmouth, Southampton and Leeds. Not the case in Bristol, Sheffield and Nottingham. But Liverpool are giving Everton an interest free loan, I assume on the similar bases to us, a stadium will help redevelop an area in need of development/investment. Man City even got a stadium for free!
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