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Post by gasandelectricity on Nov 27, 2019 15:09:48 GMT
You may have seen on the news that documents have been released of trade talks between the UK and US. It mentions sport. "The UK (Connolly) presented. There is a significant UK appetite for US sports franchises. American Football has begun exhibition matches and a formal franchise is under consideration. Additional US sports would be welcome." It there a "UK appetite for US sports franchises"? There is. Ample people go and watch NFL ‘football’ at Wembley. I think I’d rather watch cricket... and I really don’t like watching cricket. |
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Post by lpgas on Nov 27, 2019 17:23:48 GMT
is to legislate for accredited football supporters’ trusts to be able to appoint and remove at least two club directors and purchase shares when clubs change hands. I'd love to see that at Liverpool and Chelsea. it isn't going to happen, is it  |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Nov 27, 2019 17:29:25 GMT
Marxist lefty clap trap that will result in the end of football in this country and will collapse the economy. As opposed to the mad Australian now US resident who is and has been ruining the game & clubs year upon year eh |
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Post by lpgas on Nov 27, 2019 17:31:11 GMT
Give 5% of Premier League money to the Grassroots? Labour clearly know nothing about business - the premier league clubs will simply move to another country where they don't have to give 5%. Anti-bot legislation? I simply won't vote for a government that is clearly prejudice towards robots. Disgrace in this day and age. Ban zero hours contracts - £10 per hour? More Labour fantasy economics. We'd go bankrupt! We should pay all staff in pasty coupons, plus they should be proud and passionate to work for us. Give power to fans? What do we know? Let the execs keep the power, they're clearly doing a great job. Marxist rubbish! Yeah, you know good old Man Utd, from Beijing. Because that's likely to happen  I don't really care about bots chatting - the more people in work the better, but each to their own. We'd be bankrupt? I assume you're an economist with that claim, can you show me your workings as to how and why we'd be bankrupt? Which is funny, because the Tories want to raise minimum wage it to £10.50 - I assume you're saying the same thing about them? It's funny how the same message can be viewed completely differently: And no, not give power to fans - give more power to fans. It's a big difference. More power is good, all power? Who knows? But actually, if you look at it on a meta-analysis type view, how many clubs are fan owned in the EFL? Wycombe (1st in L1), Exeter (5th in L2), Wimbledon (20th in L1) & Newport (9th in L1). So that's 4/72 EFL clubs that are fan owned and financially are doing fine, as well as doing well in their leagues/since they were reborn. So then 68/72 are privately owned, including ourselves. How many of those do you think are in debt and struggling? Yeah - let's keep the execs in, just like we did with Bolton & Bury - even ourselves - we're doing amazingly financially. Firstly as we can see the second highest placed fan owned team is Wimbledon, which suggests to me that they don't have the money to go on and get any higher. Meanwhile we have just read the thread on their stadium, which is being funded by building flats around it is £11 million short. As for Wycombe they are there because of their type of football, and I would say the have richer fans than any of others |
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Post by brads213 on Nov 27, 2019 18:06:46 GMT
No problem what they want to do they ain’t gettin* into power
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Post by Gassy on Nov 27, 2019 19:13:41 GMT
Yeah, you know good old Man Utd, from Beijing. Because that's likely to happen I don't really care about bots chatting - the more people in work the better, but each to their own. We'd be bankrupt? I assume you're an economist with that claim, can you show me your workings as to how and why we'd be bankrupt? Which is funny, because the Tories want to raise minimum wage it to £10.50 - I assume you're saying the same thing about them? It's funny how the same message can be viewed completely differently: And no, not give power to fans - give more power to fans. It's a big difference. More power is good, all power? Who knows? But actually, if you look at it on a meta-analysis type view, how many clubs are fan owned in the EFL? Wycombe (1st in L1), Exeter (5th in L2), Wimbledon (20th in L1) & Newport (9th in L1). So that's 4/72 EFL clubs that are fan owned and financially are doing fine, as well as doing well in their leagues/since they were reborn. So then 68/72 are privately owned, including ourselves. How many of those do you think are in debt and struggling? Yeah - let's keep the execs in, just like we did with Bolton & Bury - even ourselves - we're doing amazingly financially. Firstly as we can see the second highest placed fan owned team is Wimbledon, which suggests to me that they don't have the money to go on and get any higher. Meanwhile we have just read the thread on their stadium, which is being funded by building flats around it is £11 million short. As for Wycombe they are there because of their type of football, and I would say the have richer fans than any of others Yet in equivalent of their club size/attendances they're doing pretty well.. They're overachieving, so can't be that bad.. Wimbledon formed in 2002 and are a million times closer to a new stadium than we are. We moved in 96 to the Mem! Didn't Exeter build a new stand as well? Wycombe 5 points clear at the top of L1 and you've found a way to put that down? Yes, they're there because of their winning football. I'm not trying to argue that fan ownership is the best idea, just putting the argument out there that it isn't as bad as anyone desperate to put down Labour's policies at any given time people seem to think more fan power is a bad thing. |
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Post by gasandelectricity on Nov 27, 2019 19:19:35 GMT
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 27, 2019 19:21:40 GMT
Firstly as we can see the second highest placed fan owned team is Wimbledon, which suggests to me that they don't have the money to go on and get any higher. Meanwhile we have just read the thread on their stadium, which is being funded by building flats around it is £11 million short. As for Wycombe they are there because of their type of football, and I would say the have richer fans than any of others Yet in equivalent of their club size/attendances they're doing pretty well.. They're overachieving, so can't be that bad.. Wimbledon formed in 2002 and are a million times closer to a new stadium than we are. We moved in 96 to the Mem! Didn't Exeter build a new stand as well? Wycombe 5 points clear at the top of L1 and you've found a way to put that down? Yes, they're there because of their winning football. I'm not trying to argue that fan ownership is the best idea, just putting the argument out there that it isn't as bad as anyone desperate to put down Labour's policies at any given time people seem to think more fan power is a bad thing. Wimbledon doing well you say? www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/fans-fear-for-future-of-afc-wimbledon-as-club-face-11m-shortfall-to-build-new-stadium-a4296711.htmlWycombe also seem on the verge of being taken over: www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/prospective-new-wycombe-owner-hopes-17092633 |
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Nov 27, 2019 19:26:50 GMT
We would need to built a safe stand first. So no. Definitely not. |
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Post by Gassy on Nov 27, 2019 19:27:22 GMT
Yes, they’re building a new stadium and came to a lack of funds. They’ll get round it. Still closer to a stadium than we are. Who cares whether Wycombe are close to a takeover, doesn’t mean anything about what they’re doing now. Unless the takeover has been secretly funding them the last few years 😂 |
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Post by Gassy on Nov 27, 2019 19:28:44 GMT
Interesting, I wonder if the Tory supporters who say politics should stay out of football would suddenly change their minds... Haven’t the Tory government been saying no to this for years though? Suddenly an election comes along and they’ve changed their minds? |
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Post by gasandelectricity on Nov 27, 2019 19:46:37 GMT
Interesting, I wonder if the Tory supporters who say politics should stay out of football would suddenly change their minds... Haven’t the Tory government been saying no to this for years though? Suddenly an election comes along and they’ve changed their minds? Bit different. They’re winding down regulation instead of increasing it. They’re also working with football instead of beating it with a stick with their other policies. Much more palatable. Influence, rather than regulate. |
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Post by Gassy on Nov 27, 2019 20:03:45 GMT
Interesting, I wonder if the Tory supporters who say politics should stay out of football would suddenly change their minds... Haven’t the Tory government been saying no to this for years though? Suddenly an election comes along and they’ve changed their minds? Bit different. They’re winding down regulation instead of increasing it. They’re also working with football instead of beating it with a stick with their other policies. Much more palatable. Influence, rather than regulate. Whilst my comment was tongue in cheek and I understand what you’re saying, the Tories have turned this down for years. Suddenly with 2/3 weeks to go until a GE they bring this out? Why vote is down in the first place? |
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 27, 2019 20:25:15 GMT
Yes, they’re building a new stadium and came to a lack of funds. They’ll get round it. Still closer to a stadium than we are. Who cares whether Wycombe are close to a takeover, doesn’t mean anything about what they’re doing now. Unless the takeover has been secretly funding them the last few years 😂 One of the way's to get around it is sell out to private investors! Wycombe new owner has been funding them since the summer, as far as "who cares" surely the fact the only two clubs owned by fans trust seem to be about to sell up to private investors suggest it doesn't work in the long term. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 27, 2019 20:29:54 GMT
Bit different. They’re winding down regulation instead of increasing it. They’re also working with football instead of beating it with a stick with their other policies. Much more palatable. Influence, rather than regulate. Whilst my comment was tongue in cheek and I understand what you’re saying, the Tories have turned this down for years. Suddenly with 2/3 weeks to go until a GE they bring this out? Why vote is down in the first place? That's the way politics works? |
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Post by badengas on Nov 27, 2019 20:36:59 GMT
Breaking news. Monster Raving Loonies manifesto supports the Sh!t playing on Thursdays only and with home games on the Planet Uranus.
Vote Loony.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Nov 27, 2019 20:41:10 GMT
Breaking news. Monster Raving Loonies manifesto supports the Sh!t playing on Thursdays only and with home games on the Planet Uranus. Vote Loony. And they're gonna build us a stadium. |
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Post by gasheadontour on Nov 27, 2019 21:03:16 GMT
I can remember when the Tories wanted to ban anyone from going to watch football matches unless they had an ID card registered on a national database. Tories were also against UK clubs competing in Europe. Thatcher would have been happy to see the end of football as she thought it was for the working class.
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Post by Gassy on Nov 27, 2019 21:10:50 GMT
Yes, they’re building a new stadium and came to a lack of funds. They’ll get round it. Still closer to a stadium than we are. Who cares whether Wycombe are close to a takeover, doesn’t mean anything about what they’re doing now. Unless the takeover has been secretly funding them the last few years 😂 One of the way's to get around it is sell out to private investors! Wycombe new owner has been funding them since the summer, as far as "who cares" surely the fact the only two clubs owned by fans trust seem to be about to sell up to private investors suggest it doesn't work in the long term. Sell out or sell a %? Very big difference. Wimbledon have 3 options and now you’re saying they’re about to sell out? Are you ITK? Newport & Exeter are also fan owned, so not the only two... It also doesn’t prove it doesn’t work long term. Both are punching well above their weight and could be sold to take them to another level. We can barely keep up with our natural level. Considering they’ve all been fan owned for quite a while, make profit & bulld stadiums/stands and punch above their weight - in what way isn’t that ‘not working in the long term’? There are many more clubs struggling in a worse position than us - how long term are they? How long term is our current model? 1 year? 3 years? |
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Post by lpgas on Nov 27, 2019 22:03:18 GMT
Firstly as we can see the second highest placed fan owned team is Wimbledon, which suggests to me that they don't have the money to go on and get any higher. Meanwhile we have just read the thread on their stadium, which is being funded by building flats around it is £11 million short. As for Wycombe they are there because of their type of football, and I would say the have richer fans than any of others Yet in equivalent of their club size/attendances they're doing pretty well.. They're overachieving, so can't be that bad.. Wimbledon formed in 2002 and are a million times closer to a new stadium than we are. We moved in 96 to the Mem! Didn't Exeter build a new stand as well? Wycombe 5 points clear at the top of L1 and you've found a way to put that down? Yes, they're there because of their winning football. I'm not trying to argue that fan ownership is the best idea, just putting the argument out there that it isn't as bad as anyone desperate to put down Labour's policies at any given time people seem to think more fan power is a bad thing. I just don't think it is a good idea, unless of course you have a few millionaires amongst fanbase. And given on here we cannot come to many conclusions, what would a board meeting be like! |
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