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Post by markczgas on Dec 20, 2019 9:55:13 GMT
Graham has gone up a bit in my estimation there. Appreciated he took the time to speak to 20man and try and smooth things over a bit. What shined through for me was that the decision to leave was 90% based on being close to his family. Its a shame then that in his Ipswich post match he was talking about not being able to take the club further and all that stuff. We'll soon find out if his hands had been tied in January when the window opens and we start to see the incomings and outgoings. I don't. I just think 20man didn't press him on his other reasons for leaving - maybe he thought GC wouldn't say anything - ex-managers have clauses put in their contracts that they cannot criticise the running of their club on leaving it. We shall see the whole truth by 31st Jan.
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Post by South Stand Ultra on Dec 20, 2019 9:59:05 GMT
Graham has gone up a bit in my estimation there. Appreciated he took the time to speak to 20man and try and smooth things over a bit. What shined through for me was that the decision to leave was 90% based on being close to his family. Its a shame then that in his Ipswich post match he was talking about not being able to take the club further and all that stuff. We'll soon find out if his hands had been tied in January when the window opens and we start to see the incomings and outgoings. Was the show pre-recorded or, was it live?
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Post by Marshy on Dec 20, 2019 10:00:09 GMT
Graham has gone up a bit in my estimation there. Appreciated he took the time to speak to 20man and try and smooth things over a bit. What shined through for me was that the decision to leave was 90% based on being close to his family. Its a shame then that in his Ipswich post match he was talking about not being able to take the club further and all that stuff. We'll soon find out if his hands had been tied in January when the window opens and we start to see the incomings and outgoings. Was the show pre-recorded or, was it live? Yes it was.
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Post by South Stand Ultra on Dec 20, 2019 10:01:10 GMT
Was the show pre-recorded or, was it live? Yes it was. 😀 OK cheers mate...
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Post by Marshy on Dec 20, 2019 10:02:18 GMT
No problem, happy to help.
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Post by gashead1981 on Dec 20, 2019 10:07:29 GMT
This was all about the location and nothing more. There is no other logical reason why you would leave a club 4th in L1 for a team 18th in L2.
For example, if we approached Micheal Duff at Cheltenham do you honestly think he wouldn’t want to come to us, or at least consider it? Of course he would. A club higher up the pyramid considered to be bigger than where he is. It’s a promotion of reputation and he does well there’s a chance of either championship football here if momentum is maintained or being noticed for another job higher up the pyramid. .
But ask Gareth Ainsworth now if he fancies a crack at Walsall what do you think he would say? It would be No. Why? Because it’s a backwards step, he’s done league 2 and won it, why would he go back? Even if the money is decent.
Football managers spend their time dedicating themselves to manage higher up the ladder with each move unless they make a total cats arse of a job (Jones at stoke for example) and have to drop back down a league to rebuild that reputation in a league they know how to operate in.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2019 10:19:06 GMT
This was all about the location and nothing more. There is no other logical reason why you would leave a club 4th in L1 for a team 18th in L2. For example, if we approached Micheal Duff at Cheltenham do you honestly think he wouldn’t want to come to us, or at least consider it? Of course he would. A club higher up the pyramid considered to be bigger than where he is. It’s a promotion of reputation and he does well there’s a chance of either championship football here if momentum is maintained or being noticed for another job higher up the pyramid. . But ask Gareth Ainsworth now if he fancies a crack at Walsall what do you think he would say? It would be No. Why? Because it’s a backwards step, he’s done league 2 and won it, why would he go back? Even if the money is decent. Football managers spend their time dedicating themselves to manage higher up the ladder with each move unless they make a total cats arse of a job (Jones at stoke for example) and have to drop back down a league to rebuild that reputation in a league they know how to operate in. To be honest I’d like to see what salary he was offered from Mansfield, compared to his Rovers salary before saying it was only about the location. If they trebled his salary, that’s a logical reason?
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Post by tommym9 on Dec 20, 2019 11:05:37 GMT
Graham has gone up a bit in my estimation there. Appreciated he took the time to speak to 20man and try and smooth things over a bit. What shined through for me was that the decision to leave was 90% based on being close to his family. Its a shame then that in his Ipswich post match he was talking about not being able to take the club further and all that stuff. We'll soon find out if his hands had been tied in January when the window opens and we start to see the incomings and outgoings. Was the show pre-recorded or, was it live? Think it was live
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2019 11:41:04 GMT
However he spins it, he made one of the biggest days for the club in recent times all about him and took the gloss of it. Even if he had said nowt and it all came out on Monday that would have been a saving grace. As it was he absolutely used that interview knowingly to sabotage his position at the club and force his own way. Inexcusable Dont get me wrong. That's where my head is. But several people are blaming the board and I'd suggest his interview suggests otherwise. This is all about Coughlan. His behaviour was water poor.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2019 11:44:53 GMT
This was all about the location and nothing more. There is no other logical reason why you would leave a club 4th in L1 for a team 18th in L2. For example, if we approached Micheal Duff at Cheltenham do you honestly think he wouldn’t want to come to us, or at least consider it? Of course he would. A club higher up the pyramid considered to be bigger than where he is. It’s a promotion of reputation and he does well there’s a chance of either championship football here if momentum is maintained or being noticed for another job higher up the pyramid. . But ask Gareth Ainsworth now if he fancies a crack at Walsall what do you think he would say? It would be No. Why? Because it’s a backwards step, he’s done league 2 and won it, why would he go back? Even if the money is decent. Football managers spend their time dedicating themselves to manage higher up the ladder with each move unless they make a total cats arse of a job (Jones at stoke for example) and have to drop back down a league to rebuild that reputation in a league they know how to operate in. To be honest I’d like to see what salary he was offered from Mansfield, compared to his Rovers salary before saying it was only about the location. If they trebled his salary, that’s a logical reason? Exactly, he moaned about being away at Christmas but he’s been working away from home for the last 10 years, he should be used to it. At least enough so he can see the season out and leave on good terms. Also, he is putting his head on a chopping block because if it fails at Mansfield he isn’t getting a job in league one again for a long while. So for me money was the big factor because it offsets the risk. What he meant by job security was that if we sacked him he would walk away with little. If Mansfield sack him in two weeks time he’s going to be set up for the next 5 years if not longer.
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Post by endicotton on Dec 20, 2019 11:56:55 GMT
Good riddance as far as I'm concerned. Showed himself to be the biggest hypocrit I've ever known manage Rovers in recent times. Also shown here he was basically trying to make himself look less of a prick in the post match press conference by saying he didn't know where he could take the club etc when he states in this interview it was mostly just to do with his family. I respect the fact he's rang in to tell us fans more but just seems too little too late for me tbh. Most fans said if he would of just come out and said straight away it's for personal reasons and to see his family more then it would have been understood and accepted, but what he did was make excuses and blame resources etc to force the move through and then AFTER he's signed for them told us all a different story. Tada GC.
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Post by stuartcampbell on Dec 20, 2019 12:08:25 GMT
Why are people bringing up Dunne and Maher as if that means the family excuse isn’t true? Dunne and Maher were specifically brought in by Coughlan, probably due to Coughlan rating them highly, they were both brought in recently. If the main reason they came was because of GC then why wouldn’t they go with him if he leaves?
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Post by oldgas on Dec 20, 2019 12:22:09 GMT
Coughlin is so self absorbed I'm surprised he didn't disappear up his own arse during that interview.
He was quite obviously approached by Mansfield and offered whatever to go there. He then said great, approach Rovers. This they did and got knocked back. He had a problem then, did he kick up a fuss, or accept our decision. Mansfield contacted Rovers again on the Saturday and told Coughlin what they intended doing. He then brought the issue into the open with that load of crap after the Ipswich game and the rest is history.
Some people are saying they have more sympathy with him now, and that he's gone up in their estimation. As far as I'm concerned he's even more of a two-faced Trecherous Banned word than I originally thought, going on the radio and spouting that crap. You've gone now, you arsehole, your whining and lying hasn't fooled anyone, enjoy life in L2, and I hope Walsall, one of your Derby matches, stuff you out of sight.
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Post by warehamgas on Dec 20, 2019 13:58:06 GMT
Graham has gone up a bit in my estimation there. Appreciated he took the time to speak to 20man and try and smooth things over a bit. What shined through for me was that the decision to leave was 90% based on being close to his family. Its a shame then that in his Ipswich post match he was talking about not being able to take the club further and all that stuff. We'll soon find out if his hands had been tied in January when the window opens and we start to see the incomings and outgoings. I don't. I just think 20man didn't press him on his other reasons for leaving - maybe he thought GC wouldn't say anything - ex-managers have clauses put in their contracts that they cannot criticise the running of their club on leaving it. We shall see the whole truth by 31st Jan.No we won’t. We will get an interpretation of something. It might not be the truth of why GC left us. UTG!
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 20, 2019 14:10:09 GMT
Coughlin is so self absorbed I'm surprised he didn't disappear up his own arse during that interview. He was quite obviously approached by Mansfield and offered whatever to go there. He then said great, approach Rovers. This they did and got knocked back. He had a problem then, did he kick up a fuss, or accept our decision. Mansfield contacted Rovers again on the Saturday and told Coughlin what they intended doing. He then brought the issue into the open with that load of crap after the Ipswich game and the rest is history. Some people are saying they have more sympathy with him now, and that he's gone up in their estimation. As far as I'm concerned he's even more of a two-faced Trecherous Banned word than I originally thought, going on the radio and spouting that crap. You've gone now, you arsehole, your whining and lying hasn't fooled anyone, enjoy life in L2, and I hope Walsall, one of your Derby matches, stuff you out of sight. Sums up things nicely, failing which GC must be one of the luckiest blokes around that an employee just down the road from his house happens to offer him a job just as he starts missing home after a decade away!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2019 14:22:19 GMT
The truth about if he has taken the club as far as possible will clearly be resolved in the near future. We are 4th with a decent middling playing budget so the rest of this season and next season we will know the truth.
I believe he knew he was facing budget cuts for next season and no real help in january. In fact we already know the budget is likely to be cut because the poor crowds will make it essential to comply with SCMP rules.
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Post by peterhooper57 on Dec 20, 2019 14:32:00 GMT
The truth about if he has taken the club as far as possible will clearly be resolved in the near future. We are 4th with a decent middling playing budget so the rest of this season and next season we will know the truth. I believe he knew he was facing budget cuts for next season and no real help in january. In fact we already know the budget is likely to be cut because the poor crowds will make it essential to comply with SCMP rules. Totally agree, GC should have at least grown a pair and stayed until the end of the season; bottom line, every thing was about him, he was obviously tap up and he walk out the door, forget him, the Gas moves on, again !
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Post by lympstonegas on Dec 20, 2019 14:45:29 GMT
The truth about if he has taken the club as far as possible will clearly be resolved in the near future. We are 4th with a decent middling playing budget so the rest of this season and next season we will know the truth. I believe he knew he was facing budget cuts for next season and no real help in january. In fact we already know the budget is likely to be cut because the poor crowds will make it essential to comply with SCMP rules. Totally agree, GC should have at least grown a pair and stayed until the end of the season; bottom line, every thing was about him, he was obviously tap up and he walk out the door, forget him, the Gas moves on, again ! Be wrong to not thank him for all he did whilst here - we do could be floundering in L2 alongside Mansfield if it wasn’t for him
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Post by lympstonegas on Dec 20, 2019 14:45:54 GMT
Totally agree, GC should have at least grown a pair and stayed until the end of the season; bottom line, every thing was about him, he was obviously tap up and he walk out the door, forget him, the Gas moves on, again ! Be wrong to not thank him for all he did whilst here - we so could be floundering in L2 alongside Mansfield if it wasn’t for him
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Post by Hudson1883 on Dec 20, 2019 14:51:34 GMT
The very earliest Mansfield Town FC will be playing league One football is August 2021, so we can 110% scrap the ‘ambition’ aspect of his move back North.
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