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Post by lastminutewinner on Dec 20, 2019 21:17:35 GMT
He spent 4 years at Plymouth, moved back to Yorkshire and liked living back at home so much he then moved to Shrewsbury before spending years at Southend & Rovers before accepting a 2.5 years managers contract, he's talking total BS about microwave meals etc, as in another interview he said he watches 3 games a week and shared a flat with Dunne who was a good cook. As far as Rollin & Kilgour v Plymouth i haven't a clue what that means, although I assume Posh will give us an hard workout tomorrow than a mid table L1 side. Not sure what a agenda I'm supposed to have perhaps you could explain? You had a go at me, as I didn't know they were suspended against Plymouth lol. He met his wife in Plymouth, they moved to Sheffield when he signed for Wednesday. They are now at School in Sheffield. As a coach, he would have went home more, he would have worked less hours and he wouldn't have been as stressed. You do understand the difference? Have you not listened to any interviews over the last year?? You could hear that he was struggling. You could see he was stressed and you could see how much he was missing them. Do you have children?? Why not finish the job we were decent enough to give him his break at, and leave in the summer?? 5 months is little to ask when he has been living down south for the past decade. He has been around enough managers to know how much time is taken up day-to-day so should not have been so naive. Any good he has done for this football club he has undone by leaving us in the lurch during a busy and crucial part of the football season. This will affect players; new manager, new assistant, new coaches... all with new ideas and training completely changes. I'm glad he at least knows most gasheads dislike him now. |
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Post by daniel300380 on Dec 20, 2019 21:29:04 GMT
You had a go at me, as I didn't know they were suspended against Plymouth lol. He met his wife in Plymouth, they moved to Sheffield when he signed for Wednesday. They are now at School in Sheffield. As a coach, he would have went home more, he would have worked less hours and he wouldn't have been as stressed. You do understand the difference? Have you not listened to any interviews over the last year?? You could hear that he was struggling. You could see he was stressed and you could see how much he was missing them. Do you have children?? Why not finish the job we were decent enough to give him his break at, and leave in the summer?? 5 months is little to ask when he has been living down south for the past decade. He has been around enough managers to know how much time is taken up day-to-day so should not have been so naive. Any good he has done for this football club he has undone by leaving us in the lurch during a busy and crucial part of the football season. This will affect players; new manager, new assistant, new coaches... all with new ideas and training completely changes. I'm glad he at least knows most gasheads dislike him now. Would Mansfield have waited until the summer?? Doubt it. He would have still been here, if they didn't approach him. But he would have been stressed, feeling down and missing his family, when he was away from football. |
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Post by lastminutewinner on Dec 20, 2019 22:24:42 GMT
Why not finish the job we were decent enough to give him his break at, and leave in the summer?? 5 months is little to ask when he has been living down south for the past decade. He has been around enough managers to know how much time is taken up day-to-day so should not have been so naive. Any good he has done for this football club he has undone by leaving us in the lurch during a busy and crucial part of the football season. This will affect players; new manager, new assistant, new coaches... all with new ideas and training completely changes. I'm glad he at least knows most gasheads dislike him now. Would Mansfield have waited until the summer?? Doubt it. He would have still been here, if they didn't approach him. But he would have been stressed, feeling down and missing his family, when he was away from football. Cry me a river. There are plenty of teams around the Sheffield area. He went a decade living in the south, I cant understand why he couldn't just finish the season. And to go about it the way he did.... |
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Post by daniel300380 on Dec 20, 2019 23:44:28 GMT
Would Mansfield have waited until the summer?? Doubt it. He would have still been here, if they didn't approach him. But he would have been stressed, feeling down and missing his family, when he was away from football. Cry me a river. There are plenty of teams around the Sheffield area. He went a decade living in the south, I cant understand why he couldn't just finish the season. And to go about it the way he did.... Not that want him. If we went on a bad run now, we wouldn't want him. You never know what's around the corner. This could have been his best opportunity. Shows how heartless some of our fans are. |
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Post by socrates on Dec 21, 2019 0:20:49 GMT
This was all about the location and nothing more. There is no other logical reason why you would leave a club 4th in L1 for a team 18th in L2. For example, if we approached Micheal Duff at Cheltenham do you honestly think he wouldn’t want to come to us, or at least consider it? Of course he would. A club higher up the pyramid considered to be bigger than where he is. It’s a promotion of reputation and he does well there’s a chance of either championship football here if momentum is maintained or being noticed for another job higher up the pyramid. . But ask Gareth Ainsworth now if he fancies a crack at Walsall what do you think he would say? It would be No. Why? Because it’s a backwards step, he’s done league 2 and won it, why would he go back? Even if the money is decent. Football managers spend their time dedicating themselves to manage higher up the ladder with each move unless they make a total cats arse of a job (Jones at stoke for example) and have to drop back down a league to rebuild that reputation in a league they know how to operate in. I totally agree with this and this is why I respect Graham Coughlan for what he’s done. Ok some say he could have gone a better way about it but ultimately he’s gone home to his wife and kids most probably at the expense of the progress in his career at least short term. I bet he’s gutted to leave what he’s started here but he’s done it for a very good reason. People on here calling him a lady garden are out of order. Personally I love my wife and daughter and if I only saw them for a few hours once a fortnight I’d miss them and want to spend more time with them. He’s done what he felt was right for him and his family and has left us in so much a better position than when he arrived it’s unbelievable. I can’t remember a Rovers Manager turning the tide like he’s done in a year ever. People will say what about DC but he didn’t keep us up before getting us in to the top six the following year , John ward kept us up then pretty much relegated us the following year. Coggers i salute you for what you achieved here in your short time. UTG |
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Post by socrates on Dec 21, 2019 0:28:42 GMT
The absolute tosh i hear from fans on here is unreal. GC clearly didnt want to say anything on saturday after the game however when the question came about how far he could take us he was just an emotional wreck and a load of mix truth came out. That is perfectly understandable from a man who has always wore his heart on his sleeve. Thank you GC for a great year and for putting this club in the best position it has been in a decade (on the pitch). Topman and i hope you achieve great things at Mansfield. Sorry for the clueless fans who never backed your winning style of football. Exactly how I feel. If we drop down the table now towards a mid table finish which is likely considering the squad we have then It'll be interesting to see the 8-9000 at the Mem creating a great atmosphere because his boring football has gone. Stay away fans step up , I haven’t missed a home game all season and I’ve always supported our previous manager who did great things for our club. Be careful for what you wish for as the saying goes , this club is sleepwalking towards league 2 and it takes someone like Graham Coughlan to stop that happening. Here’s hoping we can find someone who can keep it going but I very much doubt a new manager will pick up from where he left off. |
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Post by socrates on Dec 21, 2019 0:34:42 GMT
Would Mansfield have waited until the summer?? Doubt it. He would have still been here, if they didn't approach him. But he would have been stressed, feeling down and missing his family, when he was away from football. Cry me a river. There are plenty of teams around the Sheffield area. He went a decade living in the south, I cant understand why he couldn't just finish the season. And to go about it the way he did.... That’s because you don’t know him personally you don’t know his wife , you’ve never met his kids and you don’t live in their house probably ? He’s made his decision , have you got kids , ever worked away ? At times he’s not seen his family for up to three weeks and after ten years it’s taken it’s toll what’s so hard to understand about that ? There’s been many a man who’s thrown himself in to his work , neglected his family and ended up alone with his family resenting him for the way he is. Three weeks without the mrs and kids probably sounds great to some but we’re all human and we’re all different. |
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Post by lastminutewinner on Dec 21, 2019 0:45:57 GMT
Cry me a river. There are plenty of teams around the Sheffield area. He went a decade living in the south, I cant understand why he couldn't just finish the season. And to go about it the way he did.... That’s because you don’t know him personally you don’t know his wife , you’ve never met his kids and you don’t live in their house probably ? He’s made his decision , have you got kids , ever worked away ? At times he’s not seen his family for up to three weeks and after ten years it’s taken it’s toll what’s so hard to understand about that ? There’s been many a man who’s thrown himself in to his work , neglected his family and ended up alone with his family resenting him for the way he is. Three weeks without the mrs and kids probably sounds great to some but we’re all human and we’re all different. 5 months....you finish the job you started. If you are missing your wife and kids so much why sign a new contract with a club 3hrs from home? I appreciate he is a long way from home but there is no excusing the way he cemented his exit from his contract. That is unforgivable in my book, its not particularly what he did, it was the way he did it. |
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Post by socrates on Dec 21, 2019 1:02:27 GMT
That’s because you don’t know him personally you don’t know his wife , you’ve never met his kids and you don’t live in their house probably ? He’s made his decision , have you got kids , ever worked away ? At times he’s not seen his family for up to three weeks and after ten years it’s taken it’s toll what’s so hard to understand about that ? There’s been many a man who’s thrown himself in to his work , neglected his family and ended up alone with his family resenting him for the way he is. Three weeks without the mrs and kids probably sounds great to some but we’re all human and we’re all different. 5 months....you finish the job you started. If you are missing your wife and kids so much why sign a new contract with a club 3hrs from home? I appreciate he is a long way from home but there is no excusing the way he cemented his exit from his contract. That is unforgivable in my book, its not particularly what he did, it was the way he did it. It’s easy to say that sat behind a keyboard with none of the details. Maybe his wife said that she couldn’t go on like this and it got to the point where it was career in the south and divorce or career in the north and keep his family perhaps the kids were upset, not doing well, maybe one of them has got ill ? Maybe it was one of those things and he got watered off with our fanbase too ? He’s clearly a man who speaks it as he thinks it and the interview after Ipswich was typical Cogs rambling away and not making much sense ,press interviews have never been his strong point. That’s it we don’t know , I’m only going on what I do know and that’s that he did brilliantly for us. Im gutted and not one of the stay away fans who couldn’t wait for us to get back to where we were before he arrived and I find it baffling that a large percentage of our fanbase couldn’t bring themselves to support a Rovers side challenging for championship football. At least now we’ll be getting a couple of thousand more on the gate every week eh. |
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Post by lastminutewinner on Dec 21, 2019 1:09:34 GMT
5 months....you finish the job you started. If you are missing your wife and kids so much why sign a new contract with a club 3hrs from home? I appreciate he is a long way from home but there is no excusing the way he cemented his exit from his contract. That is unforgivable in my book, its not particularly what he did, it was the way he did it. It’s easy to say that sat behind a keyboard with none of the details. Maybe his wife said that she couldn’t go on like this and it got to the point where it was career in the south and divorce or career in the north and keep his family perhaps the kids were upset, not doing well, maybe one of them has got ill ? Maybe it was one of those things and he got watered off with our fanbase too ? He’s clearly a man who speaks it as he thinks it and the interview after Ipswich was typical Cogs rambling away and not making much sense ,press interviews have never been his strong point. That’s it we don’t know , I’m only going on what I do know and that’s that he did brilliantly for us. Im gutted and not one of the stay away fans who couldn’t wait for us to get back to where we were before he arrived and I find it baffling that a large percentage of our fanbase couldn’t bring themselves to support a Rovers side challenging for championship football. At least now we’ll be getting a couple of thousand more on the gate every week eh. Whatever 'good' he has done for us he has completely undone over the past week in my book. I've worked in a different country away from my family for many years, my wife fully supported me because I was making money and a lot of it, enough that im now retired at 42 and financially sound with 2 young kids. GC talks of honesty and respect, but he has none of it himself. |
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Post by glengas on Dec 21, 2019 1:11:24 GMT
Let’s hope the bloke he replaced hasn’t got a family eh! Still in the job whilst GC was being lined up. Football is such an honourable business full of selfless saints
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Post by lastminutewinner on Dec 21, 2019 1:16:44 GMT
Let’s hope the bloke he replaced hasn’t got a family eh! Still in the job whilst GC was being lined up. Football is such an honourable business full of selfless saints Awful the way Mansfield dealt with this. Approaching us for permission to speak to GC on the morning of both of our games. If I were Dempsey id be livid. |
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Post by glengas on Dec 21, 2019 1:18:46 GMT
Let’s hope the bloke he replaced hasn’t got a family eh! Still in the job whilst GC was being lined up. Football is such an honourable business full of selfless saints Awful the way Mansfield dealt with this. Approaching us for permission to speak to GC on the morning of both of our games. If I were Dempsey id be livid. I’m fed up of hearing how hard done by GC was. Only one person out of a job in all this. |
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Post by warehamgas on Dec 21, 2019 9:43:21 GMT
Why not finish the job we were decent enough to give him his break at, and leave in the summer?? 5 months is little to ask when he has been living down south for the past decade. He has been around enough managers to know how much time is taken up day-to-day so should not have been so naive. Any good he has done for this football club he has undone by leaving us in the lurch during a busy and crucial part of the football season. This will affect players; new manager, new assistant, new coaches... all with new ideas and training completely changes. I'm glad he at least knows most gasheads dislike him now. ?? Doubt it. He would have still been here, if they didn't approach him. But he would have been stressed, feeling down and missing his family, when he was away from football. They’ll have probably sacked/got rid of another manager by that time looking at their track record.😉 UTG! |
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Post by Henbury Gas on Dec 21, 2019 10:19:19 GMT
The absolute tosh i hear from fans on here is unreal. GC clearly didnt want to say anything on saturday after the game however when the question came about how far he could take us he was just an emotional wreck and a load of mix truth came out. That is perfectly understandable from a man who has always wore his heart on his sleeve. Thank you GC for a great year and for putting this club in the best position it has been in a decade (on the pitch). Topman and i hope you achieve great things at Mansfield. Sorry for the clueless fans who never backed your winning style of football. Absolutely - wonder what the behind the dugout rent a mob will have to rant about to tomorrow after they got their wish I'm one of said mob you "Talk" about and i can assure you i will giving whoever is in charge the full benefit of my limited knowledge of football and DEFEND Sir Tom Nichols, just like you will when he scores the final Goal of his perfect Hat trick against his old club..... ok i will keep taking the pills  |
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Post by gashead1981 on Dec 21, 2019 10:57:28 GMT
It’s easy to say that sat behind a keyboard with none of the details. Maybe his wife said that she couldn’t go on like this and it got to the point where it was career in the south and divorce or career in the north and keep his family perhaps the kids were upset, not doing well, maybe one of them has got ill ? Maybe it was one of those things and he got watered off with our fanbase too ? He’s clearly a man who speaks it as he thinks it and the interview after Ipswich was typical Cogs rambling away and not making much sense ,press interviews have never been his strong point. That’s it we don’t know , I’m only going on what I do know and that’s that he did brilliantly for us. Im gutted and not one of the stay away fans who couldn’t wait for us to get back to where we were before he arrived and I find it baffling that a large percentage of our fanbase couldn’t bring themselves to support a Rovers side challenging for championship football. At least now we’ll be getting a couple of thousand more on the gate every week eh. Whatever 'good' he has done for us he has completely undone over the past week in my book. I've worked in a different country away from my family for many years, my wife fully supported me because I was making money and a lot of it, enough that im now retired at 42 and financially sound with 2 young kids. GC talks of honesty and respect, but he has none of it himself. Thing is LMW. People are different. Situations are different. What your wife could cope with others can’t. I work away in other countries too. Usually for no more than a week at a time. My Mrs by day 3 is crying down the phone counting the days. She hates being alone with the lad. Not that she can’t cope, she can and does. She just hates me not being around. We won’t know the full extent of his personal situation. Quite frankly, it’s none of our business and whilst I disagree with what he did a week a go in terms of announcing it, I understand his reasons and there’s no point in us abusing him for it or holding it against him. |
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Post by gashead1981 on Dec 21, 2019 11:01:26 GMT
Let’s hope the bloke he replaced hasn’t got a family eh! Still in the job whilst GC was being lined up. Football is such an honourable business full of selfless saints Awful the way Mansfield dealt with this. Approaching us for permission to speak to GC on the morning of both of our games. If I were Dempsey id be livid. Tbh, that’s the way football works. It’s rare that a club sacks a manager with no idea of who they want to replace him with or without a shortlist of candidates. We even sounded out and offered Gary Johnson a job whilst DC was manager after his poor start to the conference season. DC was 1 game from the chop. When DC was sacked GC was always the intended replacement. It was only delayed because Hamer wanted Cotts and made it all very difficult to make the appointment. Thing is we were approached on weds. Told he wasn’t interested and by Saturday he made his own announcement. It all rather caught us on the hop. |
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Post by lastminutewinner on Dec 21, 2019 22:11:49 GMT
Graham has gone up a bit in my estimation there. Appreciated he took the time to speak to 20man and try and smooth things over a bit. What shined through for me was that the decision to leave was 90% based on being close to his family. Its a shame then that in his Ipswich post match he was talking about not being able to take the club further and all that stuff. We'll soon find out if his hands had been tied in January when the window opens and we start to see the incomings and outgoings. I wouldnt be surprised if he doesn't know our score today.. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 21, 2019 22:40:00 GMT
Graham has gone up a bit in my estimation there. Appreciated he took the time to speak to 20man and try and smooth things over a bit. What shined through for me was that the decision to leave was 90% based on being close to his family. Its a shame then that in his Ipswich post match he was talking about not being able to take the club further and all that stuff. We'll soon find out if his hands had been tied in January when the window opens and we start to see the incomings and outgoings. I wouldnt be surprised if he doesn't know our score today.. If he had any real interest in our score he wouldn't have quit when we had two massive games, Plymuff & Posh, this week, I doubt we'll ever know the real truth but I sense there's more to it than just being offered a job nearer to his home, life is never that straightforward! |
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Post by aghast on Dec 21, 2019 23:23:24 GMT
I wouldnt be surprised if he doesn't know our score today.. If he had any real interest in our score he wouldn't have quit when we had two massive games, Plymuff & Posh, this week, I doubt we'll ever know the real truth but I sense there's more to it than just being offered a job nearer to his home, life is never that straightforward! Absolutely. His mysterious departure when at the top of his short managerial career, having spent a decade in the south of England, must surely be about more than moving home. There is a story there which I imagine our owners know all about, not that they'll ever tell us. It might be a mystery for ever. But I imagine DC might know more about why GC left than the rest of us ever will. |
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