Nationalism

It's great to be proud of our country again and proud of ourselves once more.
Many countries are so why shouldn't we?
Have you seen for example how proud Jamacains are of their country?
Hopefully gone are the days when we get kicked around again.
The press like to get hold of the loonies behaviour it's what sells papers, but real pride, confidence and self esteem doesn't breed violence.
One thing it does breed is self assertion, totally proved at the GE.

Of course Oldie.
I get the feeling you don't actually get out, talk and listen to all types of people,just an observation not a criticism,you just read papers and copy and paste.
If politicians did this during their term in office or opposition they wouldn't be so dreadfully out of touch.

And then, as if by magic, this is revealed.

Britain First says 5,000 of its members have joined Tories

flip.it/LdFQ8l

None, I have not gone there.

Far more interesting is the dropping of the inquiry into Islamophobia. Pretty brazen stuff to make such a pledge on TV and then usher it out the back door. But then why should we expect anything else? The current Tory party are accountable to no-one but themselves and act as such.

On the wider topic of nationalism itself is it too much of a leap to say that Europe seems to be back under the cloud that spawned National Socialism in the 1930s? Far right governments are springing up in places like the Uk and Hungary and there is a real appetite to blame all the troubles of the world on Johnny Foreigner. Note that I am not for one minute suggesting that this is going to end in extermination and gas chambers. It’s certainly interesting though how cyclical politics is and having moved on from the Second World War into a more enlightened era we find foreigners once again being turned into straw men to explain the failings of previous governments.

It seems parallel with economics in that that Keynes guy argued that total cross border freedom of movement for finance was actually harmful and dangerous in the long run and everyone at the time seemed to agree. Yet no sooner was he in his grave than the financial centre in London had forgotten his teachings and an era of bloated financial excess resulted in 2008 and the proles bearing the brunt of mistakes made the rich elite.

As a species we never seem to truly learn from our mistakes and the rise of nationalism is just history repeating.

And, ignore the question.

Or, most of us can view that as abject surrender to the counter argument put to you, because you, amongst others, have zero basis for your viewpoints that you can possibly quantify.

One thing you say has a ring of truth for the centre left.

There is zero point in making the case to you as you are absolutely not interested in detail.

Which is why, I personally, fear nationalism will prevail.

You too, Al.  All the best for 2020.

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Just start a thread if there is something you wish to discuss.