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Post by RD on Jan 8, 2020 21:58:03 GMT
And for all those kicking off, you just wait until the new manager bounce wears off.
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Post by gaelgas on Jan 8, 2020 21:58:13 GMT
When Garner got appointed I thought two words, Ian Cathro, I really hope I'm wrong
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Post by gasandelectricity on Jan 8, 2020 21:58:44 GMT
f**king hell I can't believe what I'm reading, fair enough if you said this after 17 or 18 games, but we've played five games! Coventry we could've easily won and today we played our second team in an awful cup. Get some perspective Ah yes, not allowed an opinion until they've played [Insert games here]. It's called an opinion. My inclination has ofter been right previously FWIW. Sadly I think it will be again. IT'S A FORUM. PEOPLE ARE ENTITLED TO AN OPINION FFS. We don't all have to be happy clappers basing everything entirely on blind faith or benefit of the doubt. For what it's worth, I'm normally about 75-80% happy clapper and I was extremely concerned with the appointment and I am still very concerned. I don't expect I, or Roverdrive will be wrong, but I hope nothing more than to be wrong. Luckily we can get away with it, but this year the cost will be the opportunity rather than the end result (i.e. relegation) |
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Post by RD on Jan 8, 2020 21:59:57 GMT
Ah yes, not allowed an opinion until they've played [Insert games here]. It's called an opinion. My inclination has ofter been right previously FWIW. Sadly I think it will be again. IT'S A FORUM. PEOPLE ARE ENTITLED TO AN OPINION FFS. We don't all have to be happy clappers basing everything entirely on blind faith or benefit of the doubt. For what it's worth, I'm normally about 75-80% happy clapper and I was extremely concerned with the appointment and I am still very concerned. I don't expect I, or Roverdrive will be wrong, but I hope nothing more than to be wrong. Luckily we can get away with it, but this year the cost will be the opportunity rather than the end result (i.e. relegation) Same - I'm never negative for crying out loud. One time I voice an opinion that doesn't tow the party line and surprise, surprise - get sh*t for it. |
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Post by socrates on Jan 8, 2020 22:00:16 GMT
£40K for a win, £500K+ for reaching the final hardly makes it a friendly? Plus it's the same cr@p we've seen in every other game BG's looking totally out of his depth, whats is record so far LDLDL?? 5 games ago we were top of the current form. Coughlan's first 4 games this season were LDLW, and he'd been manager for 8 months and 7 of the starting XI players were players he'd signed. Give him time, it's clear we were papering over cracks, first team to lose to Bolton and got dominated by Southend Papering over cracks or playing to our strengths? If Man City had played hoofball in the last two seasons they wouldn’t have won the league so they didn’t , their manager has built a side that are capable of pressing high and playing very intricate passing moves , he had a style in mind , brought the players in to do it and has been very successful. Coughlan had a style in his mind brought the players in to do it and got it bang on and was very good at making it work. Now it’s garners turn, poor time to do it mid season but if this is the wY he wants to go then he needs many more players in and out before the end of the month but all we can do is prey he gets it right because if he gets it wrong and gets sacked we could end up with a squad full of players that either aren’t good enough or don’t suit the next managers style stuck on 2 year deals and around it goes again. Troubling times. |
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Post by clockendgas on Jan 8, 2020 22:00:50 GMT
Pathetic performance against a team in their postion, but oh so typically rovers.
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Post by neilv93 on Jan 8, 2020 22:00:54 GMT
I take Upson is suspended for Saturday now then? Big blow... Not sure if a sending off in the EFL Trophy counts in the league. Exeter had a player sent off in the league and a 3 match ban but he was free to play in the next game in the EFL Trophy. That's why I was asking because I'm confused - logically if it's only EFL Trophy then does that just mean he's banned for the next available EFLT game? And if it's league, then that's sh*te. |
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Post by neilv93 on Jan 8, 2020 22:01:52 GMT
When Garner got appointed I thought two words, Ian Cathro, I really hope I'm wrong Damn, that's actually a really accurate and interesting comparison. Effectively lower level Paul Clement's. We'll see. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2020 22:02:27 GMT
Gonna call it - Garner will prove to be the worst appointment in our history - move over Dobson. Haters gon hate. Is it possible to bookmark this post for future review. |
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Post by stuartcampbell on Jan 8, 2020 22:02:55 GMT
It's not like this squad clearly doesn't have issues, Coughlan's Banned word football just hid that. He hid the fact we were a sh** football team by winning lots of games. His tactics were so reliant on JCH it was unbelievable, not sustainable long-term whatsoever, which is why from his first 5 games at Mansfield he has 5 points despite having one of the best teams in the league |
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Post by socrates on Jan 8, 2020 22:04:24 GMT
When Garner got appointed I thought two words, Ian Cathro, I really hope I'm wrong Damn, that's actually a really accurate and interesting comparison. Effectively lower level Paul Clement's. We'll see. I thought David Furnish. |
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Post by RD on Jan 8, 2020 22:05:38 GMT
Gonna call it - Garner will prove to be the worst appointment in our history - move over Dobson. Haters gon hate. Is it possible to bookmark this post for future review. Thankfully as mods we can edit posts as required. This can quite easily become "best appointment in our history" if we win the next 10 games on the bounce  |
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Post by stuartcampbell on Jan 8, 2020 22:05:54 GMT
f**king hell I can't believe what I'm reading, fair enough if you said this after 17 or 18 games, but we've played five games! Coventry we could've easily won and today we played our second team in an awful cup. Get some perspective Ah yes, not allowed an opinion until they've played [Insert games here]. It's called an opinion. My inclination has ofter been right previously FWIW. Sadly I think it will be again. IT'S A FORUM. PEOPLE ARE ENTITLED TO AN OPINION FFS. We don't all have to be happy clappers basing everything entirely on blind faith or benefit of the doubt. What exactly was your opinion? Because as I recall, you asked a question to people who had excuses, I think I answered pretty clearly, it has not been long enough to discredit those excuses. Hope this helps. |
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Post by gasandelectricity on Jan 8, 2020 22:05:57 GMT
He hid the fact we were a sh** football team by winning lots of games. His tactics were so reliant on JCH it was unbelievable, not sustainable long-term whatsoever, which is why from his first 5 games at Mansfield he has 5 points despite having one of the best teams in the league But it worked. Even when JCH wasn't playing. Garner has chucked everything that worked about our squad and tactics under the bus because Mourinho wouldn't approve it in a coaching course. |
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Post by neilv93 on Jan 8, 2020 22:07:35 GMT
Is it possible to bookmark this post for future review. Thankfully as mods we can edit posts as required. This can quite easily become "best appointment in our history" if we win the next 10 games on the bounce Maybe we could win one game on the bounce first? |
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Post by stuartcampbell on Jan 8, 2020 22:08:28 GMT
Coughlan's first 4 games this season were LDLW, and he'd been manager for 8 months and 7 of the starting XI players were players he'd signed. Give him time, it's clear we were papering over cracks, first team to lose to Bolton and got dominated by Southend Papering over cracks or playing to our strengths? If Man City had played hoofball in the last two seasons they wouldn’t have won the league so they didn’t , their manager has built a side that are capable of pressing high and playing very intricate passing moves , he had a style in mind , brought the players in to do it and has been very successful. Coughlan had a style in his mind brought the players in to do it and got it bang on and was very good at making it work. Now it’s garners turn, poor time to do it mid season but if this is the wY he wants to go then he needs many more players in and out before the end of the month but all we can do is prey he gets it right because if he gets it wrong and gets sacked we could end up with a squad full of players that either aren’t good enough or don’t suit the next managers style stuck on 2 year deals and around it goes again. Troubling times. Our strength was Jonson Clarke-Harris. What happens if our strength is sold? |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jan 8, 2020 22:08:44 GMT
He hid the fact we were a sh** football team by winning lots of games. His tactics were so reliant on JCH it was unbelievable, not sustainable long-term whatsoever, which is why from his first 5 games at Mansfield he has 5 points despite having one of the best teams in the league He took over a team near the bottom of L2 and has 5 points from 5 games. BG has taken over a team 4th in L1 and has 2 points in 4 games. |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jan 8, 2020 22:09:41 GMT
Coughlan's first 4 games this season were LDLW, and he'd been manager for 8 months and 7 of the starting XI players were players he'd signed. Give him time, it's clear we were papering over cracks, first team to lose to Bolton and got dominated by Southend Papering over cracks or playing to our strengths? If Man City had played hoofball in the last two seasons they wouldn’t have won the league so they didn’t , their manager has built a side that are capable of pressing high and playing very intricate passing moves , he had a style in mind , brought the players in to do it and has been very successful. Coughlan had a style in his mind brought the players in to do it and got it bang on and was very good at making it work. Now it’s garners turn, poor time to do it mid season but if this is the wY he wants to go then he needs many more players in and out before the end of the month but all we can do is prey he gets it right because if he gets it wrong and gets sacked we could end up with a squad full of players that either aren’t good enough or don’t suit the next managers style stuck on 2 year deals and around it goes again. Troubling times. Yep, I don't imagine the board thought that Coughlan was the sort of manager that would evolve the team the way DC had planned it to go, but you couldn't argue with his results. It caused us to play against the 'ethos' that we were touted to be working towards. It felt like we were just about getting rid of DC's less effective players and getting towards GC's sort of team. That project would have been finished in the summer. Now, it seems with the contrasting aspirations of GC and BG we're in the confused position of building BG's team before GC's team has been finished and before DC's team has even been disbanded. It's concerning coz if Garner's appointment doesn't work out we will need a miracle worker to sort through the remaining detritus. |
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Post by Colyton Gas on Jan 8, 2020 22:11:42 GMT
Thankfully as mods we can edit posts as required. This can quite easily become "best appointment in our history" if we win the next 10 games on the bounce Maybe we could win one game on the bounce first? Maybe we could score some goals first? |
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Post by neilv93 on Jan 8, 2020 22:12:14 GMT
Maybe we could win one game on the bounce first? Maybe we could score some goals first? Maybe we could have a shot on target first? |
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