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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2020 20:29:05 GMT
In effect he was supporting your blatant slagging off of garner. You know the bloke given leave for a serious family health issue. The issue is unlike a normal employee he's not on full leave, he's trying to look after his family whilst also trying to run a football club, you have to admire him for trying but it's simply not working. Something as got to give, either BG returns to coaching full time or he takes a complete break and lets Maher get on and run the team is way. The line up today with Barrett and Reilly playing behind JCH was clearly BG's preferred formation not Maher's. Perhaps another issue is will BG's preferred formation ever work with the present sqaud of players but that's something for hom to wrry about if he ever returns, from Barrett's interview even that might not be certain. Maybe it would be better to refrain from attacking garner full stop. The club have stated that maher will manage the team in his absence. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2020 20:29:09 GMT
So he asked you a question to provide evidence of a statement, which is exactly what you asked. And by asking you that, he’s therefore slagging off Garner? But by that idiotic logic, so are you.. Still ignoring the questions though I see. Where’s the evidence of your claims? Not the sharpest tool in the box, eh? Well its obvious to anyone that he cannot manage a team while on leave. So why imply he is? its disrespectful imo. Your vile sneering comments about garner just because we lost a poxy football match stink frankly. “Vile sneering comments” - belt up snowflake ffs. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2020 20:32:49 GMT
The issue is unlike a normal employee he's not on full leave, he's trying to look after his family whilst also trying to run a football club, you have to admire him for trying but it's simply not working. Something as got to give, either BG returns to coaching full time or he takes a complete break and lets Maher get on and run the team is way. The line up today with Barrett and Reilly playing behind JCH was clearly BG's preferred formation not Maher's. Perhaps another issue is will BG's preferred formation ever work with the present sqaud of players but that's something for hom to wrry about if he ever returns, from Barrett's interview even that might not be certain. Maybe it would be better to refrain from attacking garner full stop. The club have stated that maher will manage the team in his absence. Bloody hell, if that.’s attacking then there are no words quite frankly. Just because he is going through a tough time personally there is nothing to preclude discussion about the team’s performance and his role in that on an Internet forum. People seem to think the whole bloody world should stop and we all just stay schtum and watch respectfully as this absolute wreck of a transition period continues to lumber from crisis to crisis. Fans aren’t happy with the direction of the club and the lack of clearly defined leadership and the defeats, that isn’t to be conflated with personal abuse of Garner and a lack of compassion for his personal situation. It’s you and you only reading that into it and it’s ridiculous quite frankly. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2020 20:35:08 GMT
Well its obvious to anyone that he cannot manage a team while on leave. So why imply he is? its disrespectful imo. Your vile sneering comments about garner just because we lost a poxy football match stink frankly. “Vile sneering comments” - belt up snowflake ffs. A snowflake is someone offended on another persons behalf. But im ashamed and embarrassed by posters slagging off a bloke with a serious issue to deal with on my own behalf. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2020 20:37:43 GMT
“Vile sneering comments” - belt up snowflake ffs. A snowflake is someone offended on another persons behalf. But im ashamed and embarrassed by posters slagging off a bloke with a serious issue to deal with on my own behalf. Who is slagging him off? Can you post actual examples of what you find so offensive? I’ve certainly seen no personal abuse, just criticism of his results. Are we not allowed to talk about that now or something? |
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Post by onedaygas83 on Jan 18, 2020 20:45:06 GMT
A snowflake is someone offended on another persons behalf. But im ashamed and embarrassed by posters slagging off a bloke with a serious issue to deal with on my own behalf. Who is slagging him off? Can you post actual examples of what you find so offensive? I’ve certainly seen no personal abuse, just criticism of his results. Are we not allowed to talk about that now or something? A fair few are still blaming BG for recent results yet the last two games which he hasn't been able to attend we have lost 3 nil so that's not exactly his fault. I think the players ought to be ashamed by the way they have played recently and they certainly haven't gone out to play for him during this difficult period in his personal life. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 18, 2020 20:49:47 GMT
So he asked you a question to provide evidence of a statement, which is exactly what you asked. And by asking you that, he’s therefore slagging off Garner? But by that idiotic logic, so are you.. Still ignoring the questions though I see. Where’s the evidence of your claims? Not the sharpest tool in the box, eh? Well its obvious to anyone that he cannot manage a team while on leave. So why imply he is? its disrespectful imo. Your vile sneering comments about garner just because we lost a poxy football match stink frankly. Why do you always have to take this anti forum users stance, when we wanted DC out you supported him, when GC was doing well, results wise, you continually slagged off his playing style, now we're questioning how BG can managed the team via phone calls you're off again, everybody from MS downwards suggests BG is still heavily involved in team selection etc, just accept it instead of looking for an argument with every poster. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2020 20:52:24 GMT
Who is slagging him off? Can you post actual examples of what you find so offensive? I’ve certainly seen no personal abuse, just criticism of his results. Are we not allowed to talk about that now or something? A fair few are still blaming BG for recent results yet the last two games which he hasn't been able to attend we have lost 3 nil so that's not exactly his fault. I think the players ought to be ashamed by the way they have played recently and they certainly haven't gone out to play for him during this difficult period in his personal life. I’m sure the players have got loads of sympathy for his position- but they are human and have their own problems too. They we’re shafted by the manager who had them in 4th and their security is now up in the air. Does the new manager want them? He’s already told some of the squad that he doesn’t. They probably don’t know whether they are coming or going with the new manager here one minute gone the next but continuing to have daily contact and even meeting new signings. If I was a player under those conditions I don’t expect I would be too enthusiastic about giving my all, especially when they know as soon as we go a goal down we’ve basically lost. |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jan 18, 2020 20:54:04 GMT
You might want to delete your post mate, because it's either: 1) not correct 2) correct but BG wanted it to remain private. nothing for me to delete mate as I was told by a club representative so he would be liable for leaking such sensitive information dont you think? Thought I would let people know the severity of the situation as most on here are continuing to slag the guy off. We are all responsible for our own actions. It was already posted on here but the mods sensibly decided to delete it. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 18, 2020 20:54:56 GMT
Who is slagging him off? Can you post actual examples of what you find so offensive? I’ve certainly seen no personal abuse, just criticism of his results. Are we not allowed to talk about that now or something? A fair few are still blaming BG for recent results yet the last two games which he hasn't been able to attend we have lost 3 nil so that's not exactly his fault. I think the players ought to be ashamed by the way they have played recently and they certainly haven't gone out to play for him during this difficult period in his personal life. So you can't see they are trying to play a formation which is totally alien to them, when did Reilly ever play as a deep No 10, what is Barrett's preferred position, and when was Sercs ever a defensive CM? BG should do the right thing for his family and take a complete break from running the team until he's able to return full time, and you should do the right thing and not publish personal info the club doesn't want in the public domain. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 18, 2020 20:58:35 GMT
You might want to delete your post mate, because it's either: 1) not correct 2) correct but BG wanted it to remain private. nothing for me to delete mate as I was told by a club representative so he would be liable for leaking such sensitive information dont you think? Thought I would let people know the severity of the situation as most on here are continuing to slag the guy off. Suggest you use Google to search "compassionate leave" if you don't think posters are already aware of the severity of the situation. |
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Post by onedaygas83 on Jan 18, 2020 20:59:18 GMT
nothing for me to delete mate as I was told by a club representative so he would be liable for leaking such sensitive information dont you think? Thought I would let people know the severity of the situation as most on here are continuing to slag the guy off. We are all responsible for our own actions. It was already posted on here but the mods sensibly decided to delete it. what's been deleted? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2020 21:10:45 GMT
We are all responsible for our own actions. It was already posted on here but the mods sensibly decided to delete it. what's been deleted? The reason why BG is on compassionate leave |
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Post by onedaygas83 on Jan 18, 2020 21:11:54 GMT
A fair few are still blaming BG for recent results yet the last two games which he hasn't been able to attend we have lost 3 nil so that's not exactly his fault. I think the players ought to be ashamed by the way they have played recently and they certainly haven't gone out to play for him during this difficult period in his personal life. So you can't see they are trying to play a formation which is totally alien to them, when did Reilly ever play as a deep No 10, what is Barrett's preferred position, and when was Sercs ever a defensive CM? BG should do the right thing for his family and take a complete break from running the team until he's able to return full time, and you should do the right thing and not publish personal info the club doesn't want in the public domain. the club clearly dont mind talking publicly about the situation as they've to x y and z one being me so I dont feel I've over stepped the mark on this information. It will all be made public soon and a few other fans have been saying they have heard the same so what's the problem? |
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Post by Gastafari on Jan 18, 2020 21:15:16 GMT
I think all the negative Garner posts whilst hes off for family reasons is bang out of order and those comments are awful to read! I was told by someone very close with links to the club that his daughter is intensive care at this moment so if that's true then please get off the guys back! They're not negative to the man himself. Family alway's comes first, Garner quite rightly and sadly has taken compassionate leave to deal with it. The negative is that this is having a huge impact on our Football club, we've gone from a team who had just beaten Ipswich away to go just 2 points off top spot. Since Garners appointment we haven't won in 9 games, haven't scored from open play and are conceding goals Left, Right and Centre(Although today it was all from our Left) Somethings got to give surely? It can't be good for Garners wellbeing for his mind to be anywhere else apart from with his family, and it's not good for Rovers to have a manager whose mind and heart is elsewhere, quite rightly too. A decision needs to be made, because we are going down if this carry's on. I keep beating the drum, but get Neil Warnock in for those 12 games for him to get his milestone of 1500 games as Manager, or until the end of the season, to help us save our season, give Ben garner the time he needs with his family and evaluate the situation in 12 games or at the end of the season. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 18, 2020 21:36:50 GMT
So you can't see they are trying to play a formation which is totally alien to them, when did Reilly ever play as a deep No 10, what is Barrett's preferred position, and when was Sercs ever a defensive CM? BG should do the right thing for his family and take a complete break from running the team until he's able to return full time, and you should do the right thing and not publish personal info the club doesn't want in the public domain. the club clearly dont mind talking publicly about the situation as they've to x y and z one being me so I dont feel I've over stepped the mark on this information. It will all be made public soon and a few other fans have been saying they have heard the same so what's the problem? The issue is surely it's not been made public by the club and a thread was locked last week when somebody else posted similar info. Well done though I bet you feel proud of yourself. |
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Post by gasandelectricity on Jan 18, 2020 21:39:12 GMT
The Garner situation is very sad, but is extremely tricky for the club.
Personally, I feel uncomfortable discussing the merits of him being our manager in the same manner as we would do normally whilst this situation is ongoing. Whether or not he has made the right decisions with the squad regards approach and acquiring and moving on players or not is rather immaterial. The matter is a much more human one which is far more difficult to deal with.
Whilst the human approach is to give Ben as long as he needs to deal with the situation, Bristol Rovers as a football club needs a manager to ensure progress on the pitch not just in the next fortnight, or the next month, but the remainder of the season and into the next.
At some point conversations will need to be had with Ben whether or not him continuing to be on compassionate leave is the best thing for his family, and what the best medium to long term solution is - be it more permanent cover until the end of the season, or mutually parting ways.
It will need to be done in the most compassionate way possible which is focussed almost entirely on what's best for him and his family, and not making him feel forced into returning.
A very delicate situation for the club.
You have to feel for the bloke after he has just landed what must be his dream job!
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Post by Gassy on Jan 18, 2020 21:41:40 GMT
So he asked you a question to provide evidence of a statement, which is exactly what you asked. And by asking you that, he’s therefore slagging off Garner? But by that idiotic logic, so are you.. Still ignoring the questions though I see. Where’s the evidence of your claims? Not the sharpest tool in the box, eh? Well its obvious to anyone that he cannot manage a team while on leave. So why imply he is? its disrespectful imo. Your vile sneering comments about garner just because we lost a poxy football match stink frankly. What vile sneering comments? Got evidence? Looking forward to this one! You still keep ignoring the previous questions asked, it's pretty staggering. |
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Post by p4perlant3rn on Jan 18, 2020 21:46:08 GMT
Give the guy as long as he needs. We are not going up (and nor were we ever going to under GC), and we are not going down. I will be there next Saturday, and am pretty chilled about the whole thing. There are bigger things in life than football.
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Post by brads213 on Jan 18, 2020 22:01:46 GMT
Goodness me what is going on with our beloved club, I accept that BG needs time out at the moment, but we should have a replacement in charge until the end of the season , so he can assess the situation fully and he can have the summer to sort things out. But these are desperate times and action is needed now
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