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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2020 23:41:02 GMT
It was arguably the best performance we’ve had so far under Garner, if we’d defended that set piece better, we would all be in a much better mood. Perfecting the way that Garner wants us to play is going to take time and there have been signs over the last couple of games of improvement. I think the tide will turn and results will start going our way again it’s just not going to happen instantly, Garner was talking about two signings and one of them being permanent so that will help. Can't help but find it baffling why we seemingly wanted to quite significantly change course after being in touching distance of the top two. The opportunity we had in a pretty average L1 won't present itself for a good while I suspect. Very frustrated. I feel the same,its like the chance of a really high finish has been needlessly chucked in the bin. It took us 20 years to be 4th in league one and could be another 20 before we get back there. |
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Post by Gastafari on Jan 28, 2020 23:42:00 GMT
Relegation talk is self pitying nonsense. Even with current form we'd be safe. How different the world would be without a missed penalty and a goal line clearance in the last two games! Is it really nonsense? When we were creating chances, scoring goals and winning Football matches most of the time, apparently we were never good enough to go up. Now it's gone full circle, 10 games without a win, 1 solitary goal from open play, not creating chances, not scoring goals and no longer winning Football matches. It has relegation scrap written all over it. We probably wont go down, and luckily we have enough points on the board from our good form up till Christmas and there are going to be 3 worse teams than us. The current form and complete turn of fortunes is still alarmingly worrying. Only Bristol Rovers could be in 4th place, 2 points off the top at Christmas and appoint a manager with a supposedly complete different "Philosophy" and basically write off 6 months of the season and call it "transition". |
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Post by Gasshole on Jan 29, 2020 0:22:01 GMT
Relegation not an option
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Jan 29, 2020 6:42:29 GMT
I think we would have been found out under Coughlan and wouldn’t be in the playoffs under him either. It’s something we will never know really. Who knows. The fact is that he was getting a winning tune out of a limited squad over the course of a calendar year. And was taking a load of abuse for his style of play. Now I imagine many who wanted him out are the ones moaning that we're trying to play football rather than launch it at JCH. |
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Post by Gaswood on Jan 29, 2020 7:43:41 GMT
At the start of the season everyone was fapping over Oxfords squad and how they’ll fly this season, and they are 3 points ahead of us. Everyone was waxing lyrical about Peterborough doing phenomenal work in the Summer with their signings, and they’re 8points above after playing 2 more games than us. Fleetwood were “showing their ambition with some fantastic signings” that would make them a good side, yet they are one point above us. The mighty Sunderland and Pompey are 4 and 6 above. We had a period of struggling at the start of the season, which improved with a run of good defensive displays, keeping us unbeaten, and then some great wins to rise up. No reason that can’t happen again considering the injuries that we had as BG took charge. No rose-tinted glasses on here, but we’re still nearer to playoffs than we are to relegation. I’m on the fence, can’t see the benefit in negativity, after all it was what made GC and JCH speak out previously. Let’s see how it goes and get behind the team on the day. Two games undefeated now, let’s carry it forward!
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Post by xenongas on Jan 29, 2020 7:46:58 GMT
Relegation talk is self pitying nonsense. Even with current form we'd be safe. How different the world would be without a missed penalty and a goal line clearance in the last two games! Is it really nonsense? When we were creating chances, scoring goals and winning Football matches most of the time, apparently we were never good enough to go up. Now it's gone full circle, 10 games without a win, 1 solitary goal from open play, not creating chances, not scoring goals and no longer winning Football matches. It has relegation scrap written all over it. We probably wont go down, and luckily we have enough points on the board from our good form up till Christmas and there are going to be 3 worse teams than us. The current form and complete turn of fortunes is still alarmingly worrying. Only Bristol Rovers could be in 4th place, 2 points off the top at Christmas and appoint a manager with a supposedly complete different "Philosophy" and basically write off 6 months of the season and call it "transition". Our form is alarmingly worrying, that is clear. And I completely understand looking down the table rather than up after the last month. But relegation is still very unlikely because of the reasons you've stated - some of which are true regardless of how well/badly were playing. I think the threat of relegation is being thrown around as more plausable than it actually is to vent frustration and for a good old fashioned bit of rovers self pity. That's why I called it nonsense. If we win the next three and there are a couple of posts saying automatic promotion is on the cards, they'll be (rightly) seen as getting carried away. Works both ways. I think the smart money is on rovers finishing in the also ran group just outside the playoffs. That's not to say I'm happy with that after where we were before Christmas. But this was an opportunity (that was forced upon the club) to try something with potential long term big rewards with pretty minimal short term risk. That's a rare occurrence in modern football. |
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Post by e4bandrobinstubbs on Jan 29, 2020 7:58:49 GMT
Last night wasn't that bad. Some good moves, but still one or two clangers. If Ollie's lob had gone in....
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Post by Gaswood on Jan 29, 2020 8:03:24 GMT
Last night wasn't that bad. Some good moves, but still one or two clangers. If Ollie's lob had gone in.... Exactly. I remember everyone was livid after the Wycombe game at the start of the season, that we should have battered “a team like Wycombe” but now the game approaching us against them is unwinnable. The penalty miss last time, the missed chances this time. Not awful, undefeated, move forwards. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 29, 2020 8:26:04 GMT
Last night wasn't that bad. Some good moves, but still one or two clangers. If Ollie's lob had gone in.... Bolton came closer to scoring before our opening goal, OC's shot would have probably been saved if had not clear the bar. Fans suggesting we're going to suddenly start winning games are overlooking we've scored 1 goal in the whole of January, and now have some real tough looking games coming up. It's hard to take that with just an average January we'd still be right in the top 6 mix. In the whole history of Rovers this must be one of the worse demises in form/results. |
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Post by Squiffy on Jan 29, 2020 8:47:50 GMT
But football is a funny old game, isn’t it, where players in a poorly performing side can sometimes raise their game against better opposition. When nobody expects them to win the pressure is off compared to so called should win games. Logically Tranmere had no chance against Watford but that’s what makes watching football such an addiction because anything can happen.
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Post by Gassy on Jan 29, 2020 9:05:16 GMT
But football is a funny old game, isn’t it, where players in a poorly performing side can sometimes raise their game against better opposition. When nobody expects them to win the pressure is off compared to so called should win games. Logically Tranmere had no chance against Watford but that’s what makes watching football such an addiction because anything can happen. Maybe so, but its all about having belief. Under DC/GC you could always believe that there would be an outstanding performance/upset in there somewhere. As it stands, I just don't get that same optimism yet from Garners reign. |
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Post by Rod1883 on Jan 29, 2020 13:16:45 GMT
I was wondering why the Wycombe game hadn't shown any scores on BBC - It turns out that someone has been taken ill and an air ambulance was called. The game kicks off at 8.50pm Hope the ill person is OK Sadly the person that was ill, a heart attack, has died. Puts things into perspective |
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Post by markczgas on Jan 30, 2020 8:46:40 GMT
Anyone know how many Gasheads were at the game ?
p.s. Rodman's cross for the goal was perfection.
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Post by Rod1883 on Jan 30, 2020 16:11:50 GMT
I hope the Bolton player is alright, that looks nasty. ..broken leg unfortunately. I didn't see it so I assume it was just bad luck as there was no card (or foul?) given against Ogogo. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51300827 |
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Post by axegas on Jan 30, 2020 16:44:56 GMT
I hope the Bolton player is alright, that looks nasty. ..broken leg unfortunately. I didn't see it so I assume it was just bad luck as there was no card (or foul?) given against Ogogo. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51300827It was a cheeky tackle from Ogogo, just left a bit into Buckley. If memory serves it was a foul. Their player (Buckley) had only been on the pitch 5 minutes and had signed for Bolton the day before. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 30, 2020 17:20:21 GMT
It was a cheeky tackle from Ogogo, just left a bit into Buckley. If memory serves it was a foul. Their player (Buckley) had only been on the pitch 5 minutes and had signed for Bolton the day before. After just recovering from a fracture to his patella! Keith Hill is having a rant saying it was an "old fashioned" tackle warranting a card of some sort. |
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Post by socrates on Jan 30, 2020 17:32:20 GMT
It was a cheeky tackle from Ogogo, just left a bit into Buckley. If memory serves it was a foul. Their player (Buckley) had only been on the pitch 5 minutes and had signed for Bolton the day before. After just recovering from a fracture to his patella! Keith Hill is having a rant saying it was an "old fashioned" tackle warranting a card of some sort. Normally see those given as a foul these days quite often a yellow but it wasn’t really bad. 20+ years ago it would have been considered a really good fair tackle perhaps the ref is old school. |
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Post by warehamgas on Jan 31, 2020 0:13:04 GMT
But football is a funny old game, isn’t it, where players in a poorly performing side can sometimes raise their game against better opposition. When nobody expects them to win the pressure is off compared to so called should win games. Logically Tranmere had no chance against Watford but that’s what makes watching football such an addiction because anything can happen. Maybe so, but its all about having belief. Under DC/GC you could always believe that there would be an outstanding performance/upset in there somewhere. As it stands, I just don't get that same optimism yet from Garners reign. Perhaps Gassy. But to be fair to BG and to compare him with DC in DCs 8 games when we went down we weren’t brilliant and I don’t remember any outstanding performances. We beat Morecambe in his first game and at Wycombe but we got results without an outstanding performance. I saw 4 of those games and the best we played was at Pompey when we lost. The circumstances weren’t the same but both BG and DC then were starting up and trying to change the way we played. DC didn’t even start the next season very well with a poor August but a much better September after the defeat at Braintree. My point is despite not getting that same optimism from BG yet (and neither do I to an extent) he has to be given time to train and coach the players up to his way of playing. I suspect that it was only last Wednesday when he came back and had Thursday and Friday then and a couple of days this week that he’s had what I would call proper time with the team. So I will give him time, support him and keep my fingers crossed that he’s gets it right. UTG! |
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