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Post by warehamgas on Mar 27, 2020 11:32:46 GMT
I would class myself as down the middle in political terms. However Corbyn is watering me off. It's easy to sit back and point out people's mistakes when you don't have to take accountability for those decisions. Yes, whilst I can agree to an extent in that “Corbyn is watering me off....” He does that anyway. On this general point he is correct. I was having a conversation a few weeks ago with friends, some of whom are fellow school governors and NHS workers and the point was made that since the crash in 2008 local services have shrunk considerably. We’ve all had to bite the bullet and accept this and make the most of it and get on with life. But to suddenly find yourself now, as most of the world is, requiring the help support of local government and the services they deliver and coordinate, the NHS and all their ancillary services and workforce, nurses, doctors, mental health services after a long period of austerity is almost the perfect storm. BJ is unfortunate in that he had set out an ambitious programme of big project stuff which is going to be threatened by this CV crisis and his policy was to spend on the stuff that Corbyn says we need before the CV hit, but for this to happen so soon after winning the election is bad luck, for him. Corbyn is just trying to make himself relevant when we all know he is a complete irrelevance. Who really cares what he thinks, he probably wouldn’t have been able to deliver what he talks about anyway. But the point he made is probably true it was just the fact that he is now the wrong person to make it. |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Mar 27, 2020 11:38:58 GMT
I would class myself as down the middle in political terms. However Corbyn is watering me off. It's easy to sit back and point out people's mistakes when you don't have to take accountability for those decisions. Yes, whilst I can agree to an extent in that “Corbyn is watering me off....” He does that anyway. On this general point he is correct. I was having a conversation a few weeks ago with friends, some of whom are fellow school governors and NHS workers and the point was made that since the crash in 2008 local services have shrunk considerably. We’ve all had to bite the bullet and accept this and make the most of it and get on with life. But to suddenly find yourself now, as most of the world is, requiring the help support of local government and the services they deliver and coordinate, the NHS and all their ancillary services and workforce, nurses, doctors, mental health services after a long period of austerity is almost the perfect storm. BJ is unfortunate in that he had set out an ambitious programme of big project stuff which is going to be threatened by this CV crisis and his policy was to spend on the stuff that Corbyn says we need before the CV hit, but for this to happen so soon after winning the election is bad luck, for him. Corbyn is just trying to make himself relevant when we all know he is a complete irrelevance. Who really cares what he thinks, he probably wouldn’t have been able to deliver what he talks about anyway. But the point he made is probably true it was just the fact that he is now the wrong person to make it. Which point? He is coming out with points left, right and centre. A dig a minute. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Mar 27, 2020 11:46:15 GMT
Yes, whilst I can agree to an extent in that “Corbyn is watering me off....” He does that anyway. On this general point he is correct. I was having a conversation a few weeks ago with friends, some of whom are fellow school governors and NHS workers and the point was made that since the crash in 2008 local services have shrunk considerably. We’ve all had to bite the bullet and accept this and make the most of it and get on with life. But to suddenly find yourself now, as most of the world is, requiring the help support of local government and the services they deliver and coordinate, the NHS and all their ancillary services and workforce, nurses, doctors, mental health services after a long period of austerity is almost the perfect storm. BJ is unfortunate in that he had set out an ambitious programme of big project stuff which is going to be threatened by this CV crisis and his policy was to spend on the stuff that Corbyn says we need before the CV hit, but for this to happen so soon after winning the election is bad luck, for him. Corbyn is just trying to make himself relevant when we all know he is a complete irrelevance. Who really cares what he thinks, he probably wouldn’t have been able to deliver what he talks about anyway. But the point he made is probably true it was just the fact that he is now the wrong person to make it. Which point? He is coming out with points left, right and centre. A dig a minute. Not sure any points he makes are either right or centre. 😀 The underfunding of public services has been going on for a long time and it doesn't take someone of the more extreme left to notice. Corbyn is as much at fault by being totally unelectable. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2020 11:55:53 GMT
Which point? He is coming out with points left, right and centre. A dig a minute. Not sure any points he makes are either right or centre. 😀 The underfunding of public services has been going on for a long time and it doesn't take someone of the more extreme left to notice. Corbyn is as much at fault by being totally unelectable. Absolutely this. Corbyn wrecked what was a left of centre social democratic party. Thus allowing the Tories to continue to run down our public services. |
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Post by althepirate on Mar 27, 2020 12:11:53 GMT
Not sure any points he makes are either right or centre. 😀 The underfunding of public services has been going on for a long time and it doesn't take someone of the more extreme left to notice. Corbyn is as much at fault by being totally unelectable. Absolutely this. Corbyn wrecked what was a left of centre social democratic party. Thus allowing the Tories to continue to run down our public services. Yes exactly this. Corbyn was so bad that the only reasonable party to vote for were the Tories. This is what the left wing never ever learn, I'm not sure that they have now and that is the saddest thing for millions of people. Corbyn couldn't have done better for the Tories if he was one. The left should be kicked out because apart from anything else they are unelectable. They are now run, not by people who understand the masses, but by millionaire idealists. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2020 12:22:07 GMT
Absolutely this. Corbyn wrecked what was a left of centre social democratic party. Thus allowing the Tories to continue to run down our public services. Yes exactly this. Corbyn was so bad that the only reasonable party to vote for were the Tories. This is what the left wing never ever learn, I'm not sure that they have now and that is the saddest thing for millions of people. Corbyn couldn't have done better for the Tories if he was one. The left should be kicked out because apart from anything else they are unelectable. They are now run, not by people who understand the masses, but by millionaire idealists. Al It can never be deemed reasonable to vote Tory. Wash your mouth out with soap and water 😝 |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2020 12:25:04 GMT
Meanwhile Over in the States, where some on here extol the attributes of Trump's policies Millions of Americans are about to lose their health insurance in a pandemic flip.it/VxX4rO |
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Post by althepirate on Mar 27, 2020 12:30:35 GMT
Yes exactly this. Corbyn was so bad that the only reasonable party to vote for were the Tories. This is what the left wing never ever learn, I'm not sure that they have now and that is the saddest thing for millions of people. Corbyn couldn't have done better for the Tories if he was one. The left should be kicked out because apart from anything else they are unelectable. They are now run, not by people who understand the masses, but by millionaire idealists. Al It can never be deemed reasonable to vote Tory. Wash your mouth out with soap and water 😝 I'm too busy washing my hands 😳 |
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Mar 27, 2020 12:32:23 GMT
Absolutely this. Corbyn wrecked what was a left of centre social democratic party. Thus allowing the Tories to continue to run down our public services. Yes exactly this. Corbyn was so bad that the only reasonable party to vote for were the Tories. This is what the left wing never ever learn, I'm not sure that they have now and that is the saddest thing for millions of people. Corbyn couldn't have done better for the Tories if he was one. The left should be kicked out because apart from anything else they are unelectable. They are now run, not by people who understand the masses, but by millionaire idealists. As much as I am sure it is nice for you to be able to blame someone else for your voting choice, it is a cowardly supposition frankly. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2020 12:34:52 GMT
Al It can never be deemed reasonable to vote Tory. Wash your mouth out with soap and water 😝 I'm too busy washing my hands 😳 Put your head in the basin, turn the taps on and for 30 seconds repeat the following phrase "I promise never to be silly and vote Tory again" |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2020 12:37:54 GMT
Yes exactly this. Corbyn was so bad that the only reasonable party to vote for were the Tories. This is what the left wing never ever learn, I'm not sure that they have now and that is the saddest thing for millions of people. Corbyn couldn't have done better for the Tories if he was one. The left should be kicked out because apart from anything else they are unelectable. They are now run, not by people who understand the masses, but by millionaire idealists. As much as I am sure it is nice for you to be able to blame someone else for your voting choice, it is a cowardly supposition frankly. For another day, but I hope and pray that at the end of all this people wake up to the value of public services and the need to fund them properly. Oh, and w**king on YouTube does constitute entertainment worthy of any form of remuneration. |
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Post by inee on Mar 27, 2020 12:52:32 GMT
I listened to this track today.... I reckon the flaming lips predicted all this 19 years ago: What in the name of the imaginary man in the sky did i just listen too you my friend owe me a pack of vallium, and 12 oacks diazepam so i can recover hmmmmm |
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Post by inee on Mar 27, 2020 12:54:38 GMT
As much as I am sure it is nice for you to be able to blame someone else for your voting choice, it is a cowardly supposition frankly. For another day, but I hope and pray that at the end of all this people wake up to the value of public services and the need to fund them properly. Oh, and w**king on YouTube does constitute entertainment worthy of any form of remuneration. It wont happen you should know by now a few weeks after or if this ends people will be whining about the excess of bog roll and having to go back to work |
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Post by inee on Mar 27, 2020 13:00:45 GMT
I was shocked when I did the maths and worked out what my situation would be just by losing 20%. There are a lot of people who are leveraged up to the eye balls because living in the UK is bloody expensive relative to wages. We all know that wages are lower than they were in 2007 yet the cost of housing and rent has sky rocketed never mind inflation on basic foods etc. I really hope that this virus, if it does any good at all, prompts some soul searching about how we live our lives and where our priorities are. As a country we have been run too long on a footing where we squeeze as much out of people as we can because they day when people en mass cannot afford the cost of living in this country would never come. Well it has come and it will be interesting to see where we go from here now the government has had to step in and bail the public out because so many live a pay cheque to pay cheque existence where saving for the event of a disaster like this is a luxury they can’t afford. Had this very same discussion with my son last night who lives in the States. The level of child poverty over there is utterly shocking. the states have been like that forever, when i was younger i was offered a small pirece of land free if i wanted to live over there ,was very tempting .however the more i looked into it the more i dint want to. Although the uk isnt in the same league as the us in terms of poverty theres an awful lot of child povertyy over here that goes unnoticed sadly |
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Post by Marshy on Mar 27, 2020 13:22:36 GMT
Just been announced that Boris has tested positive for Coronavirus 😱
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Post by althepirate on Mar 27, 2020 13:23:15 GMT
Yes exactly this. Corbyn was so bad that the only reasonable party to vote for were the Tories. This is what the left wing never ever learn, I'm not sure that they have now and that is the saddest thing for millions of people. Corbyn couldn't have done better for the Tories if he was one. The left should be kicked out because apart from anything else they are unelectable. They are now run, not by people who understand the masses, but by millionaire idealists. As much as I am sure it is nice for you to be able to blame someone else for your voting choice, it is a cowardly supposition frankly. You see, it didn't take long to get insults from the Lefties. This is the alternative to Boris. Not for me at all. Proud to have voted Tory. |
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Post by inee on Mar 27, 2020 13:24:33 GMT
I am not making any political point, but this did make me laugh. Hmmmm as long as no one changes the battery it should function, don't mind the noise the noisier it is the better it works, don't worry about clips breaking as the machine will only be out of action for a few days if royal mail can keep up, the benefit is you will continually have a new product as part break and need replacing so often. Oh and if the stop working all together blame the user for either under breathing or sucking too much air and being greedy in these time think yourself lucky it will probably limit you to 66 percent of the normal air volume you need, this is a marketing ploy as you know our devices never lose output power. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2020 13:26:46 GMT
Looks like it's transmitting to animals now. A couple of rats in downing st with symptoms.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2020 13:33:00 GMT
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Post by warehamgas on Mar 27, 2020 13:34:50 GMT
Yes, whilst I can agree to an extent in that “Corbyn is watering me off....” He does that anyway. On this general point he is correct. I was having a conversation a few weeks ago with friends, some of whom are fellow school governors and NHS workers and the point was made that since the crash in 2008 local services have shrunk considerably. We’ve all had to bite the bullet and accept this and make the most of it and get on with life. But to suddenly find yourself now, as most of the world is, requiring the help support of local government and the services they deliver and coordinate, the NHS and all their ancillary services and workforce, nurses, doctors, mental health services after a long period of austerity is almost the perfect storm. BJ is unfortunate in that he had set out an ambitious programme of big project stuff which is going to be threatened by this CV crisis and his policy was to spend on the stuff that Corbyn says we need before the CV hit, but for this to happen so soon after winning the election is bad luck, for him. Corbyn is just trying to make himself relevant when we all know he is a complete irrelevance. Who really cares what he thinks, he probably wouldn’t have been able to deliver what he talks about anyway. But the point he made is probably true it was just the fact that he is now the wrong person to make it. Which point? He is coming out with points left, right and centre. A dig a minute. The point about underfunding of public services for the past 10 years during austerity has caused problems in delivering services and made us far more vulnerable to deal with the CV crisis. Even BJ and his government have recognised this and has started to change this mindset. And of course Stuart is correct in apportioning blame to Corbyn through his complete inability to ever present as a credible alternative. |
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