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Post by Qatar Gas on Jun 4, 2021 13:20:23 GMT
Hairdressers to non arabs They actually call them saloons here so I guess one person many years ago spelt it wrong and the rest just copied
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Jun 4, 2021 14:23:10 GMT
I prefer the US policy, if vaccinated you can come back from anywhere without quarantine. It’s almost the same here in Qatar, unless you are coming back from a a handful of counties such as India. I wouldn’t have to quarantine when I come back but my kids would have to do seven day home quarantine which I think is fair enough. Of course here and in the US everyone is getting their second dose a few weeks later so it is an easier policy to follow. Since last week in Qatar, you now need to be vaccinated to go to the salon, a restaurant, bar etc. A bit harsh on those in their 20’s who are still waiting their turn to be vaccinated but it also helps with the uptake which keeps increasing every week. They’ve got to find some sort of in between, yes we know you can still carry and spread the virus whilst fully vaccinated, but we’ve put so much faith in our vaccination programme that there has to be some sort of confidence in it by the government going forward.
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Post by Qatar Gas on Jun 4, 2021 16:52:44 GMT
I prefer the US policy, if vaccinated you can come back from anywhere without quarantine. It’s almost the same here in Qatar, unless you are coming back from a a handful of counties such as India. I wouldn’t have to quarantine when I come back but my kids would have to do seven day home quarantine which I think is fair enough. Of course here and in the US everyone is getting their second dose a few weeks later so it is an easier policy to follow. Since last week in Qatar, you now need to be vaccinated to go to the salon, a restaurant, bar etc. A bit harsh on those in their 20’s who are still waiting their turn to be vaccinated but it also helps with the uptake which keeps increasing every week. They’ve got to find some sort of in between, yes we know you can still carry and spread the virus whilst fully vaccinated, but we’ve put so much faith in our vaccination programme that there has to be some sort of confidence in it by the government going forward. Yes I think that’s it. People start to say what’s the point of getting vaccinated if we still cannot go anywhere. There will always be variants from all over the place which pop up. Obviously I’m annoyed that is been made incredibly difficult for me to get back to the UK but I choose to live in another country so whilst it’s disappointing I cannot complain
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Post by Gassy on Jun 4, 2021 18:42:00 GMT
Not that this is the scenario that we’re in, but which would you rather?
Live in relative freedom in the UK with minimal restrictions (including social distancing) or have freedom to travel but the risk of lockdowns, deaths and a weaker economy?
Sadly we certainly can’t have both.
Too much of the public are jumping the gun here, we’ve vaccinated 50% of adults. Whilst that’s a lot, it’s really nothing. We still have 22m (33%) without any dose and 40m (60%) people who haven’t been fully vaccinated. And we want to open up borders to countries with dangerous variants with low vaccine rollouts?
Without wanting to sound like FranceGas, if that were to happen and cases and deaths would undoubtedly rise - no doubt the government would get full blame.
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Post by baggins on Jun 5, 2021 5:12:29 GMT
Not that this is the scenario that we’re in, but which would you rather? Live in relative freedom in the UK with minimal restrictions (including social distancing) or have freedom to travel but the risk of lockdowns, deaths and a weaker economy? Sadly we certainly can’t have both. Too much of the public are jumping the gun here, we’ve vaccinated 50% of adults. Whilst that’s a lot, it’s really nothing. We still have 22m (33%) without any dose and 40m (60%) people who haven’t been fully vaccinated. And we want to open up borders to countries with dangerous variants with low vaccine rollouts? Without wanting to sound like FranceGas, if that were to happen and cases and deaths would undoubtedly rise - no doubt the government would get full blame. 50% of adults fully vaccinated, with 80% having received at at least 1 jab is nothing? I don't think so. Hospital admission still very low, death rates still very low, rates of vaccinations increasing daily so even though the r rate is increasing the fact that things aren't changing as far as deaths go, surely means that the ones who aren't vaccine protected are returning to reasonable health without the need for hospitalization? And why would this change?
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Post by Gassy on Jun 5, 2021 5:43:26 GMT
Not that this is the scenario that we’re in, but which would you rather? Live in relative freedom in the UK with minimal restrictions (including social distancing) or have freedom to travel but the risk of lockdowns, deaths and a weaker economy? Sadly we certainly can’t have both. Too much of the public are jumping the gun here, we’ve vaccinated 50% of adults. Whilst that’s a lot, it’s really nothing. We still have 22m (33%) without any dose and 40m (60%) people who haven’t been fully vaccinated. And we want to open up borders to countries with dangerous variants with low vaccine rollouts? Without wanting to sound like FranceGas, if that were to happen and cases and deaths would undoubtedly rise - no doubt the government would get full blame. 50% of adults fully vaccinated, with 80% having received at at least 1 jab is nothing? I don't think so. Hospital admission still very low, death rates still very low, rates of vaccinations increasing daily so even though the r rate is increasing the fact that things aren't changing as far as deaths go, surely means that the ones who aren't vaccine protected are returning to reasonable health without the need for hospitalization? And why would this change? Yeah you’re right, it’s not nothing. I just meant in the grand scheme of things when you look at the entire population, it’s not as many people as we all think. Without an incomplete vaccination program it would be absolutely idiotic to open up our borders and return to normal. We’re on the right tracks, but people are jumping the gun and risking all the sacrifices we’ve made the last 18 months. And for what? Just go on holiday in the UK, is it really that upsetting? On top of that it’s not like the government are banning flights, they’re just saying if you do go to a country with high infection rates & mutations - you need to quarantine to protect others from getting ill. I don’t think thats unreasonable. I thought we were in this together, but the feeling I’m getting is the vulnerable who’re fully vaccinated don’t give a toss about potentially spreading it to others. (Not aimed at anyone on here btw, just comments I see online)
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Post by baggins on Jun 5, 2021 5:57:32 GMT
50% of adults fully vaccinated, with 80% having received at at least 1 jab is nothing? I don't think so. Hospital admission still very low, death rates still very low, rates of vaccinations increasing daily so even though the r rate is increasing the fact that things aren't changing as far as deaths go, surely means that the ones who aren't vaccine protected are returning to reasonable health without the need for hospitalization? And why would this change? Yeah you’re right, it’s not nothing. I just meant in the grand scheme of things when you look at the entire population, it’s not as many people as we all think. Without an incomplete vaccination program it would be absolutely idiotic to open up our borders and return to normal. We’re on the right tracks, but people are jumping the gun and risking all the sacrifices we’ve made the last 18 months. And for what? Just go on holiday in the UK, is it really that upsetting? On top of that it’s not like the government are banning flights, they’re just saying if you do go to a country with high infection rates & mutations - you need to quarantine to protect others from getting ill. I don’t think thats unreasonable. I thought we were in this together, but the feeling I’m getting is the vulnerable who’re fully vaccinated don’t give a toss about potentially spreading it to others. (Not aimed at anyone on here btw, just comments I see online) I've not checked but from what I've heard, trying to get anywhere in the UK where a family can Holiday this year is either very difficult or very expensive. People do give a toss about this, it's been far too hard to get this far to not to, but I'm failing to see what difference it would make if the 21st June date went ahead, or if people could fly in from Portugal, Spain, France? It's spreading quickly already but the effects are small. NHS over run? Nope, there's somewhere around 900 Patients in Hospital with covid symptoms throughout the entire Country, and surely this will be dealt with easier as the vaccine program progresses at it's current rate?
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Post by Gassy on Jun 5, 2021 6:15:48 GMT
Yeah you’re right, it’s not nothing. I just meant in the grand scheme of things when you look at the entire population, it’s not as many people as we all think. Without an incomplete vaccination program it would be absolutely idiotic to open up our borders and return to normal. We’re on the right tracks, but people are jumping the gun and risking all the sacrifices we’ve made the last 18 months. And for what? Just go on holiday in the UK, is it really that upsetting? On top of that it’s not like the government are banning flights, they’re just saying if you do go to a country with high infection rates & mutations - you need to quarantine to protect others from getting ill. I don’t think thats unreasonable. I thought we were in this together, but the feeling I’m getting is the vulnerable who’re fully vaccinated don’t give a toss about potentially spreading it to others. (Not aimed at anyone on here btw, just comments I see online) I've not checked but from what I've heard, trying to get anywhere in the UK where a family can Holiday this year is either very difficult or very expensive. People do give a toss about this, it's been far too hard to get this far to not to, but I'm failing to see what difference it would make if the 21st June date went ahead, or if people could fly in from Portugal, Spain, France? It's spreading quickly already but the effects are small. NHS over run? Nope, there's somewhere around 900 Patients in Hospital with covid symptoms throughout the entire Country, and surely this will be dealt with easier as the vaccine program progresses at it's current rate? Yeah it wouldn’t surprise me if it was difficult to book. The price thing I don’t really buy, flights are around £2-300 return atm plus you then need to spend £250 on PCR testing per person. A couple would spend £1k just on flights and PCR tests without even mentioning hotels/Airbnb’s. You could easily spend £1k in a week here and have a pretty good holiday. On the 21st June - the main thing is really the ending of social distancing and mass events, considering we still have 40% of the nation with no protection and 40m people who have between 0%-33% protection, with cases in the rise it would be foolish to start a new wave. People can fly in from Spain, Portugal or France - it’s not banned. Effects seem small at the moment, yes, but it’s vital we keep it like that. We have a great opportunity at being proactive here where in just a few months we could live close to absolute freedom. Instead, people are jumping the gun at the first bit of success that could potentially set us back. I don’t think people do care, I think they’re looking out for themselves, otherwise they wouldn’t be complaining about how it’s “unfair”.
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Post by baggins on Jun 5, 2021 6:33:34 GMT
I've not checked but from what I've heard, trying to get anywhere in the UK where a family can Holiday this year is either very difficult or very expensive. People do give a toss about this, it's been far too hard to get this far to not to, but I'm failing to see what difference it would make if the 21st June date went ahead, or if people could fly in from Portugal, Spain, France? It's spreading quickly already but the effects are small. NHS over run? Nope, there's somewhere around 900 Patients in Hospital with covid symptoms throughout the entire Country, and surely this will be dealt with easier as the vaccine program progresses at it's current rate? Yeah it wouldn’t surprise me if it was difficult to book. The price thing I don’t really buy, flights are around £2-300 return atm plus you then need to spend £250 on PCR testing per person. A couple would spend £1k just on flights and PCR tests without even mentioning hotels/Airbnb’s. You could easily spend £1k in a week here and have a pretty good holiday. On the 21st June - the main thing is really the ending of social distancing and mass events, considering we still have 40% of the nation with no protection and 40m people who have between 0%-33% protection, with cases in the rise it would be foolish to start a new wave. People can fly in from Spain, Portugal or France - it’s not banned. Effects seem small at the moment, yes, but it’s vital we keep it like that. We have a great opportunity at being proactive here where in just a few months we could live close to absolute freedom. Instead, people are jumping the gun at the first bit of success that could potentially set us back. I don’t think people do care, I think they’re looking out for themselves, otherwise they wouldn’t be complaining about how it’s “unfair”. Personally, I don't think opening on 21st June would make much difference. With the vaccination rate continuing, by the 21st (what's that, 2 weeks Monday?), most if not all of the vulnerable would be fully protected and most if not all of the lower age bracket given their first. Mind you, not sure where the BBC are getting their info from: So far, over 39 million people have had a first vaccine dose - 75% of the adult population - and nearly 27 million have had a second. The number of first doses administered each day is now averaging about 150,000 - a drop from an average of about 500,000 in mid-March - as the schedule of second doses kicks in. An average of more than 330,000 second doses are now being given a day.
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Post by trevorgas on Jun 5, 2021 7:12:47 GMT
50% of adults fully vaccinated, with 80% having received at at least 1 jab is nothing? I don't think so. Hospital admission still very low, death rates still very low, rates of vaccinations increasing daily so even though the r rate is increasing the fact that things aren't changing as far as deaths go, surely means that the ones who aren't vaccine protected are returning to reasonable health without the need for hospitalization? And why would this change? Yeah you’re right, it’s not nothing. I just meant in the grand scheme of things when you look at the entire population, it’s not as many people as we all think. Without an incomplete vaccination program it would be absolutely idiotic to open up our borders and return to normal. We’re on the right tracks, but people are jumping the gun and risking all the sacrifices we’ve made the last 18 months. And for what? Just go on holiday in the UK, is it really that upsetting? On top of that it’s not like the government are banning flights, they’re just saying if you do go to a country with high infection rates & mutations - you need to quarantine to protect others from getting ill. I don’t think thats unreasonable. I thought we were in this together, but the feeling I’m getting is the vulnerable who’re fully vaccinated don’t give a toss about potentially spreading it to others. (Not aimed at anyone on here btw, just comments I see online) I agree with you Gassy,folk on TV bleating that the government changed Portugals status at the last minute,hang on they've got 5 days,it was made clear that this could happen and ffs the evidence was there from last year. If anyone goes it's at their risk.
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Post by Gassy on Jun 5, 2021 7:27:07 GMT
Yeah it wouldn’t surprise me if it was difficult to book. The price thing I don’t really buy, flights are around £2-300 return atm plus you then need to spend £250 on PCR testing per person. A couple would spend £1k just on flights and PCR tests without even mentioning hotels/Airbnb’s. You could easily spend £1k in a week here and have a pretty good holiday. On the 21st June - the main thing is really the ending of social distancing and mass events, considering we still have 40% of the nation with no protection and 40m people who have between 0%-33% protection, with cases in the rise it would be foolish to start a new wave. People can fly in from Spain, Portugal or France - it’s not banned. Effects seem small at the moment, yes, but it’s vital we keep it like that. We have a great opportunity at being proactive here where in just a few months we could live close to absolute freedom. Instead, people are jumping the gun at the first bit of success that could potentially set us back. I don’t think people do care, I think they’re looking out for themselves, otherwise they wouldn’t be complaining about how it’s “unfair”. Personally, I don't think opening on 21st June would make much difference. With the vaccination rate continuing, by the 21st (what's that, 2 weeks Monday?), most if not all of the vulnerable would be fully protected and most if not all of the lower age bracket given their first. Mind you, not sure where the BBC are getting their info from: So far, over 39 million people have had a first vaccine dose - 75% of the adult population - and nearly 27 million have had a second. The number of first doses administered each day is now averaging about 150,000 - a drop from an average of about 500,000 in mid-March - as the schedule of second doses kicks in. An average of more than 330,000 second doses are now being given a day. Whats wrong with the statistics exactly? I'm hoping I'll get my vaccine soon, must admit I'm getting a bit annoyed now. Its been stuck at 30 year olds for a couple of weeks now
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Post by baggins on Jun 5, 2021 7:32:02 GMT
Personally, I don't think opening on 21st June would make much difference. With the vaccination rate continuing, by the 21st (what's that, 2 weeks Monday?), most if not all of the vulnerable would be fully protected and most if not all of the lower age bracket given their first. Mind you, not sure where the BBC are getting their info from: So far, over 39 million people have had a first vaccine dose - 75% of the adult population - and nearly 27 million have had a second. The number of first doses administered each day is now averaging about 150,000 - a drop from an average of about 500,000 in mid-March - as the schedule of second doses kicks in. An average of more than 330,000 second doses are now being given a day. Whats wrong with the statistics exactly? I'm hoping I'll get my vaccine soon, must admit I'm getting a bit annoyed now. Its been stuck at 30 year olds for a couple of weeks now Not saying there's something wrong with the stats, but it's strange that every site that comes up on a Google search has different figures. Or, a different way of interpreting the figures. Regarding your vaccine, have you actually been contacted with a date yet? Reason I ask is 2 of the Girls I know who work in the local, 1 is 27 and the other 21, were both contacted mid week with their first jab appointment and I think it's not far off - a week maybe? Both via text. Stupid question, but your mobile phone number is up to date with your registered Surgery yes?
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Post by baggins on Jun 5, 2021 7:33:42 GMT
Yeah you’re right, it’s not nothing. I just meant in the grand scheme of things when you look at the entire population, it’s not as many people as we all think. Without an incomplete vaccination program it would be absolutely idiotic to open up our borders and return to normal. We’re on the right tracks, but people are jumping the gun and risking all the sacrifices we’ve made the last 18 months. And for what? Just go on holiday in the UK, is it really that upsetting? On top of that it’s not like the government are banning flights, they’re just saying if you do go to a country with high infection rates & mutations - you need to quarantine to protect others from getting ill. I don’t think thats unreasonable. I thought we were in this together, but the feeling I’m getting is the vulnerable who’re fully vaccinated don’t give a toss about potentially spreading it to others. (Not aimed at anyone on here btw, just comments I see online) I agree with you Gassy,folk on TV bleating that the government changed Portugals status at the last minute,hang on they've got 5 days,it was made clear that this could happen and ffs the evidence was there from last year. If anyone goes it's at their risk. And yet they let flights in from India for 2 weeks after it was discovered here. That kind of grates.
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Post by Gassy on Jun 5, 2021 7:44:16 GMT
I agree with you Gassy,folk on TV bleating that the government changed Portugals status at the last minute,hang on they've got 5 days,it was made clear that this could happen and ffs the evidence was there from last year. If anyone goes it's at their risk. And yet they let flights in from India for 2 weeks after it was discovered here. That kind of grates. Pretty good point tbf
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Post by Gassy on Jun 5, 2021 7:46:06 GMT
Whats wrong with the statistics exactly? I'm hoping I'll get my vaccine soon, must admit I'm getting a bit annoyed now. Its been stuck at 30 year olds for a couple of weeks now Not saying there's something wrong with the stats, but it's strange that every site that comes up on a Google search has different figures. Or, a different way of interpreting the figures. Regarding your vaccine, have you actually been contacted with a date yet? Reason I ask is 2 of the Girls I know who work in the local, 1 is 27 and the other 21, were both contacted mid week with their first jab appointment and I think it's not far off - a week maybe? Both via text. Stupid question, but your mobile phone number is up to date with your registered Surgery yes? Nope not contacted yet and number is up to date. Had a couple of mates who're a few months younger and they've received their vaccine or text, but I'm guessing its dependent on the area you live in? When I try to book on the NHS website tells me im not yet eligible
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Post by oldie on Jun 5, 2021 7:47:34 GMT
I agree with you Gassy,folk on TV bleating that the government changed Portugals status at the last minute,hang on they've got 5 days,it was made clear that this could happen and ffs the evidence was there from last year. If anyone goes it's at their risk. And yet they let flights in from India for 2 weeks after it was discovered here. That kind of grates. Indeed Especially as there is deep suspicion that the delay was caused by Johnson's desperation to cut a trade deal with Modi..🤬🤬
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Post by oldie on Jun 5, 2021 7:50:26 GMT
Not saying there's something wrong with the stats, but it's strange that every site that comes up on a Google search has different figures. Or, a different way of interpreting the figures. Regarding your vaccine, have you actually been contacted with a date yet? Reason I ask is 2 of the Girls I know who work in the local, 1 is 27 and the other 21, were both contacted mid week with their first jab appointment and I think it's not far off - a week maybe? Both via text. Stupid question, but your mobile phone number is up to date with your registered Surgery yes? Nope not contacted yet and number is up to date. Had a couple of mates who're a few months younger and they've received their vaccine or text, but I'm guessing its dependent on the area you live in? When I try to book on the NHS website tells me im not yet eligible The order of vaccine is determined by an AI scan of your genetics and behaviour to indicate your worth to society. Just saying like...😉😉
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 5, 2021 8:37:21 GMT
Nope not contacted yet and number is up to date. Had a couple of mates who're a few months younger and they've received their vaccine or text, but I'm guessing its dependent on the area you live in? When I try to book on the NHS website tells me im not yet eligible The order of vaccine is determined by an AI scan of your genetics and behaviour to indicate your worth to society. Just saying like...😉😉 I was prioritised well ahead of those even in their 60s, just saying 😇
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Post by Gassy on Jun 5, 2021 9:35:00 GMT
Nope not contacted yet and number is up to date. Had a couple of mates who're a few months younger and they've received their vaccine or text, but I'm guessing its dependent on the area you live in? When I try to book on the NHS website tells me im not yet eligible The order of vaccine is determined by an AI scan of your genetics and behaviour to indicate your worth to society. Just saying like...😉😉 Damn it I just feel like I’m forever being punished for voting Lib Dem in 2010
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Post by oldie on Jun 5, 2021 9:54:47 GMT
The order of vaccine is determined by an AI scan of your genetics and behaviour to indicate your worth to society. Just saying like...😉😉 Damn it I just feel like I’m forever being punished for voting Lib Dem in 2010 Oh my god...you absolute reprobate
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