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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2020 17:08:56 GMT
Just heard my sister in law may have it, being told by her transplant team to self isolate. Bit close to home now. Good luck my friend. Remember the vast majority will be fine, medical condition or not. Dont take any chances though. Check in regularly with medical services. Jesus Yes Stuart take care and be careful |
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Post by inee on Mar 31, 2020 18:06:07 GMT
Managed to get out of the house today last went out a couple of months back, Had no choice ran out of main foods, knew today was coming so been trying to make it easy, got about an hours sleep last night ,got the dire ills ,shakes etc .Managed to get out of the door normally i tend to get panic attacks just leaving the house. Was a bit easier as hardly anyone about, for the most part ,
Got up towards the common and there they were a small group of friends lazing around on the grass,(total feckwittery i tell ee) .
Finally made it to tesco at golden hill, looks i got when i put me latex gloves on, people were looking as if i was daft (thats another story ). Went in the store people mainly stayed distant,a few strayed too close so a quick feck off or wanna go outside sorted it, this is why i cant cope outside alone i tend to either get absolutely drunk or go into an aggressive attack mode, think of it what you will but dealing with that level of anxiety and panic is not fun. Wend copes slightly better than i, any how got everything we needed even some bog roll ,which has saved me hunting down those bloody koala bears.
The store was much calmer than on a normal day, until we hit the checkouts, a staff member came up and said something to wend, Wend went into panic mode i went into protect mode and felt the dread and panic rising, i had to ask a few times what the staff member said as i don't hear too well so she kinda retreated and got on the radio.
Another member of staff came up and said sorry but the queue is in isle 13. We both cant deal with the number 13 as that is the day we lost Ann Marie Irene, so we have a total mental block on that number. I tried as best i could to explain this. The staff lady said no probs see that bloke in the black jacket you are after him stay put and i will come and get you, which is what happened
A few things to come out of this Tesco golden hill has a fair bit of stock with few restrictions as long as you are sensible, The supervisors will help those with mental or physical issues, I know a few on here are in the same boat mentally as me n wend and i hope this post allows them to at least get to the shops in an emergency situation.
The check out staff there and the floor staff have no ppe so please be mindfull and keep a respectable distance.
I would also like to thank publicly all those people at work to ensure we can get some food, i know we all thank the nhs staff fot thier dedication but most tend to forget those in retail who have no ppe and ensure we can get by. theresa quite a few on here you know who you are and i say thank you from the depthss of my heart, i just hope you bosses reward you guys n gals
Thank you
Forgot to mention i haven't had any pain meds for a while, tramadols for day and night and amother for night time, waddled all the way there but wanted to crawl home, need to get to vet to get some elbow injections as at least that will be a small relief
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Mar 31, 2020 19:03:25 GMT
Good luck my friend. Remember the vast majority will be fine, medical condition or not. Dont take any chances though. Check in regularly with medical services. How would you advise doing that? The advice I’ve seen says to only get in touch if the early symptoms persist for longer than a few days and you have difficulty breathing. What concerns me is how much advance notice the virus gives you before you start sailing close to the wind? I’m guessing it’s quite a gradual decline and not suddenly fairly normal to unable to breathe? And to echo the sentiment all the best to your sister Stu and indeed, to everyone else who is struggling with this virus at the moment. I was assuming given she is in touch with a transplant team that she is probably high risk. High risk patients tend to get directed by NHS 111 online to a 111 nurse. On the breathing we tend to see a marked deterioration beginning at about day 5. |
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Post by althepirate on Mar 31, 2020 19:27:04 GMT
Managed to get out of the house today last went out a couple of months back, Had no choice ran out of main foods, knew today was coming so been trying to make it easy, got about an hours sleep last night ,got the dire ills ,shakes etc .Managed to get out of the door normally i tend to get panic attacks just leaving the house. Was a bit easier as hardly anyone about, for the most part , Got up towards the common and there they were a small group of friends lazing around on the grass,(total feckwittery i tell ee) . Finally made it to tesco at golden hill, looks i got when i put me latex gloves on, people were looking as if i was daft (thats another story ). Went in the store people mainly stayed distant,a few strayed too close so a quick feck off or wanna go outside sorted it, this is why i cant cope outside alone i tend to either get absolutely drunk or go into an aggressive attack mode, think of it what you will but dealing with that level of anxiety and panic is not fun. Wend copes slightly better than i, any how got everything we needed even some bog roll ,which has saved me hunting down those bloody koala bears. The store was much calmer than on a normal day, until we hit the checkouts, a staff member came up and said something to wend, Wend went into panic mode i went into protect mode and felt the dread and panic rising, i had to ask a few times what the staff member said as i don't hear too well so she kinda retreated and got on the radio. Another member of staff came up and said sorry but the queue is in isle 13. We both cant deal with the number 13 as that is the day we lost Ann Marie Irene, so we have a total mental block on that number. I tried as best i could to explain this. The staff lady said no probs see that bloke in the black jacket you are after him stay put and i will come and get you, which is what happened A few things to come out of this Tesco golden hill has a fair bit of stock with few restrictions as long as you are sensible, The supervisors will help those with mental or physical issues, I know a few on here are in the same boat mentally as me n wend and i hope this post allows them to at least get to the shops in an emergency situation. The check out staff there and the floor staff have no ppe so please be mindfull and keep a respectable distance. I would also like to thank publicly all those people at work to ensure we can get some food, i know we all thank the nhs staff fot thier dedication but most tend to forget those in retail who have no ppe and ensure we can get by. theresa quite a few on here you know who you are and i say thank you from the depthss of my heart, i just hope you bosses reward you guys n gals Thank you Forgot to mention i haven't had any pain meds for a while, tramadols for day and night and amother for night time, waddled all the way there but wanted to crawl home, need to get to vet to get some elbow injections as at least that will be a small relief Very brave of you to shop today and just as brave to write about it publicly Dar. I'm sure you have helped a lot of people who read these boards even if they never post. I'm really pleased that Tesco handled it well, it just shows the awareness that society has nowadays towards mental health. Everyone has some kind of fear, heights, spiders, blood etc etc each one throws a calm person into total panic which is uncontrollable until the fear is removed. You can sit back tonight and say you faced your fear and succeeded in achieving your objective. Even in a very difficult situation you still found gratitude and praise for other people. Well done mate! |
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Post by stuart1974 on Mar 31, 2020 19:40:52 GMT
How would you advise doing that? The advice I’ve seen says to only get in touch if the early symptoms persist for longer than a few days and you have difficulty breathing. What concerns me is how much advance notice the virus gives you before you start sailing close to the wind? I’m guessing it’s quite a gradual decline and not suddenly fairly normal to unable to breathe? And to echo the sentiment all the best to your sister Stu and indeed, to everyone else who is struggling with this virus at the moment. I was assuming given she is in touch with a transplant team that she is probably high risk. High risk patients tend to get directed by NHS 111 online to a 111 nurse. On the breathing we tend to see a marked deterioration beginning at about day 5. Thanks for the well wishes guys and to OB for the heads up. I'll make a mental note. Yes, she is on anti rejection drugs and being a pharmacist she is well aware of the issues, hopefully anyway. One concern I have is that she lives alone so any loss of contact would throw us all in a panic, even if it is genuine such as sleeping in and not health related. |
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Post by baggins on Apr 1, 2020 6:09:08 GMT
I was assuming given she is in touch with a transplant team that she is probably high risk. High risk patients tend to get directed by NHS 111 online to a 111 nurse. On the breathing we tend to see a marked deterioration beginning at about day 5. Thanks for the well wishes guys and to OB for the heads up. I'll make a mental note. Yes, she is on anti rejection drugs and being a pharmacist she is well aware of the issues, hopefully anyway. One concern I have is that she lives alone so any loss of contact would throw us all in a panic, even if it is genuine such as sleeping in and not health related. Really sorry to hear that Chap, best wishes and safe thoughts. Bags. |
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Post by William Wilson on Apr 1, 2020 7:18:22 GMT
Grown up. With kids of their own. I also have a wife, who`s been told to self isolate for the foreseeable future, because of the severity of the asthma that she suffers. And a mother who`s self isolated for a couple of years now, not because of a virus, but because she`s too frail to leave the house. So, if you`re implying that the reason I`m able to maintain a life without fixating on this outbreak, is because I have no one to worry about or care for, you`re as wrong about that as you are about everything else. Yes, I have two grown up kids with kids of their own. We talk and try find the humour, where it exists. The thing I am concerned about most is the future for the grandkids. In the States I have one who has been sent home from Uni, in the last semester of year 2, a 17 year old about to sit his SATs and a 13 year old. I worry about the impact on their education and prospects thereafter. In Singapore I have twin girls as grandchildren but they are under 2 and therefore those concerns will not apply. So I agree with you, and others, that this constant updating, the style of which goes between self flagellation and hero worship, is over played and becoming tedious. The thing we should be thinking about is those that will live the next half century plus after this. Agree absolutely. But what can the likes of you and I do now, other than remain as positive as possible? Try and keep your mind active on thoughts other than the C V. My back garden hasn`t looked this tidy for years, and my garage has had the best sort out since I sold the Triumph Herald. My wife is cooking proper meals ( and baking cakes ) rather than the convenience foods we`ve been used to scoffing when we were both working. I know the pubs are shut, but I`m working my way through a bottle of Johnny Walker Double Black, that I treated myself to at the airport on my last holiday. And now I`m off for a run round the Civil Service playing fields, while I`m still allowed. As ever, life has it`s little consolations. UTG!! |
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Post by baggins on Apr 1, 2020 11:05:04 GMT
Morning everyone. Just thought I'd post something positive. Sort of. Had to go shopping this morning, Sainsburys (yes, I know). Wasn't looking forward to the queues, the fighting over the last packet of Penne, the being pushed out of the way etc. However, was there by 9am, grabbed a trolley and stood in line behind 20 or so to get in. Thought I was going to be there for ages but nope. 5 minutes and we are inside. It was really quiet. Not many people in there. Everyone kept their distance, were polite, and every shelf was stocked. Toilet rolls, fresh fruit and veg, milk, bread, canned stuff etc and I've never seen so many cans of Lager in my entire life. Tills were great, I was in and out of there in 30 minutes with everything I wanted.
I then nipped across to Iceland. Was even better. Considering it's one of their bigger stores, there were 4 of us in there, and again, shelves and freezers were all stocked.
I was out and back home within an hour. I guess the panic buying idiots have realised there's no point and it's pretty much back to normal.
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Apr 1, 2020 11:25:14 GMT
Morning everyone. Just thought I'd post something positive. Sort of. Had to go shopping this morning, Sainsburys (yes, I know). Wasn't looking forward to the queues, the fighting over the last packet of Penne, the being pushed out of the way etc. However, was there by 9am, grabbed a trolley and stood in line behind 20 or so to get in. Thought I was going to be there for ages but nope. 5 minutes and we are inside. It was really quiet. Not many people in there. Everyone kept their distance, were polite, and every shelf was stocked. Toilet rolls, fresh fruit and veg, milk, bread, canned stuff etc and I've never seen so many cans of Lager in my entire life. Tills were great, I was in and out of there in 30 minutes with everything I wanted. I then nipped across to Iceland. Was even better. Considering it's one of their bigger stores, there were 4 of us in there, and again, shelves and freezers were all stocked. I was out and back home within an hour. I guess the panic buying idiots have realised there's no point and it's pretty much back to normal. Nice one bags I also have some goodish news from my side. Working backwards from the death rates and by looking at data from 111 online and 111 phone service, it looks like somewhere in the region of 800,000 to 1.2 million people in the UK could have had coronavirus or currently have it. They havent gone to hospital so havent had a confirmatory test. They havent been unwell enough to be admitted. What that means is that if true, those surviving are in high numbers so far and as much as I hate the herd immunity thing, it is building. |
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Post by baggins on Apr 1, 2020 12:04:05 GMT
Morning everyone. Just thought I'd post something positive. Sort of. Had to go shopping this morning, Sainsburys (yes, I know). Wasn't looking forward to the queues, the fighting over the last packet of Penne, the being pushed out of the way etc. However, was there by 9am, grabbed a trolley and stood in line behind 20 or so to get in. Thought I was going to be there for ages but nope. 5 minutes and we are inside. It was really quiet. Not many people in there. Everyone kept their distance, were polite, and every shelf was stocked. Toilet rolls, fresh fruit and veg, milk, bread, canned stuff etc and I've never seen so many cans of Lager in my entire life. Tills were great, I was in and out of there in 30 minutes with everything I wanted. I then nipped across to Iceland. Was even better. Considering it's one of their bigger stores, there were 4 of us in there, and again, shelves and freezers were all stocked. I was out and back home within an hour. I guess the panic buying idiots have realised there's no point and it's pretty much back to normal. Nice one bags I also have some goodish news from my side. Working backwards from the death rates and by looking at data from 111 online and 111 phone service, it looks like somewhere in the region of 800,000 to 1.2 million people in the UK could have had coronavirus or currently have it. They havent gone to hospital so havent had a confirmatory test. They havent been unwell enough to be admitted. What that means is that if true, those surviving are in high numbers so far and as much as I hate the herd immunity thing, it is building. Blimey, that is good news. Thanks for all your posts fella, keeps me up to date far easier than trying to work out all the crap that's being put out there by the media. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2020 12:07:57 GMT
Morning everyone. Just thought I'd post something positive. Sort of. Had to go shopping this morning, Sainsburys (yes, I know). Wasn't looking forward to the queues, the fighting over the last packet of Penne, the being pushed out of the way etc. However, was there by 9am, grabbed a trolley and stood in line behind 20 or so to get in. Thought I was going to be there for ages but nope. 5 minutes and we are inside. It was really quiet. Not many people in there. Everyone kept their distance, were polite, and every shelf was stocked. Toilet rolls, fresh fruit and veg, milk, bread, canned stuff etc and I've never seen so many cans of Lager in my entire life. Tills were great, I was in and out of there in 30 minutes with everything I wanted. I then nipped across to Iceland. Was even better. Considering it's one of their bigger stores, there were 4 of us in there, and again, shelves and freezers were all stocked. I was out and back home within an hour. I guess the panic buying idiots have realised there's no point and it's pretty much back to normal. Nice one bags I also have some goodish news from my side. Working backwards from the death rates and by looking at data from 111 online and 111 phone service, it looks like somewhere in the region of 800,000 to 1.2 million people in the UK could have had coronavirus or currently have it. They havent gone to hospital so havent had a confirmatory test. They havent been unwell enough to be admitted. What that means is that if true, those surviving are in high numbers so far and as much as I hate the herd immunity thing, it is building. Herd Immunity would be a natural consequence in any event. When this is done and dusted I would like to see the stats about age groups and underlying conditions within the mortality numbers. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2020 12:12:45 GMT
Germany are going to do a lot of testing to find those already immune. You'd get a piece of paper from the government confirming you have the anti-bodies, and then those people do not have to adhere to the lockdown and can return to work. Obviously they would still have to observe things like hand washing to avoid spreading the virus, but the government are making every attempt to get people back to work.
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Post by baggins on Apr 1, 2020 12:14:23 GMT
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Post by baggins on Apr 1, 2020 12:16:08 GMT
Germany are going to do a lot of testing to find those already immune. You'd get a piece of paper from the government confirming you have the anti-bodies, and then those people do not have to adhere to the lockdown and can return to work. Obviously they would still have to observe things like hand washing to avoid spreading the virus, but the government are making every attempt to get people back to work. Daft question, but how do you go about getting tested? How are you tested? I've heard it's having a swab stuffed up your nose and another down the throat? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2020 12:18:17 GMT
Germany are going to do a lot of testing to find those already immune. You'd get a piece of paper from the government confirming you have the anti-bodies, and then those people do not have to adhere to the lockdown and can return to work. Obviously they would still have to observe things like hand washing to avoid spreading the virus, but the government are making every attempt to get people back to work. Daft question, but how do you go about getting tested? How are you tested? I've heard it's having a swab stuffed up your nose and another down the throat? No idea, but it is a different test than the one to see if you are positive. This one is quicker, cheaper and is only looking for the anti bodies. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2020 12:38:19 GMT
Daft question, but how do you go about getting tested? How are you tested? I've heard it's having a swab stuffed up your nose and another down the throat? No idea, but it is a different test than the one to see if you are positive. This one is quicker, cheaper and is only looking for the anti bodies. I think its akin to a blood sugar test. A pin prick on the finger which is then analysed for the anti bodies. |
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Apr 1, 2020 12:58:49 GMT
No idea, but it is a different test than the one to see if you are positive. This one is quicker, cheaper and is only looking for the anti bodies. I think its akin to a blood sugar test. A pin prick on the finger which is then analysed for the anti bodies. That's right. The test for the virus is a swab in the mucosa (nose/throat) as you will be shedding it from these areas. For antibodies though, this needs blood and so a pinprick test will do the trick. |
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Post by Russgas on Apr 1, 2020 13:15:30 GMT
Germany are going to do a lot of testing to find those already immune. You'd get a piece of paper from the government confirming you have the anti-bodies, and then those people do not have to adhere to the lockdown and can return to work. Obviously they would still have to observe things like hand washing to avoid spreading the virus, but the government are making every attempt to get people back to work. Trouble is they still do not know how long immunity lasts. Hopefully it is forever but it could be just a few months. Nobody knows yet and the full research will probably go on for another year or so. |
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Post by trevorgas on Apr 1, 2020 13:23:51 GMT
Germany are going to do a lot of testing to find those already immune. You'd get a piece of paper from the government confirming you have the anti-bodies, and then those people do not have to adhere to the lockdown and can return to work. Obviously they would still have to observe things like hand washing to avoid spreading the virus, but the government are making every attempt to get people back to work. Trouble is they still do not know how long immunity lasts. Hopefully it is forever but it could be just a few months. Nobody knows yet and the full research will probably go on for another year or so. As this virus is in terms Corona family the same as flu it's likely immunity will be relatively short lived,say 6-12 months as is the same with flu. Hence a vaccine is critical and I can see this being another annual vaccine that Will be rolled out every year. |
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Apr 1, 2020 13:55:21 GMT
Trouble is they still do not know how long immunity lasts. Hopefully it is forever but it could be just a few months. Nobody knows yet and the full research will probably go on for another year or so. As this virus is in terms Corona family the same as flu it's likely immunity will be relatively short lived,say 6-12 months as is the same with flu. Hence a vaccine is critical and I can see this being another annual vaccine that Will be rolled out every year. Clinical trials beginning now on treatment at least. Mixture of anti viral, steroids and the antimalarial youd have heard about. |
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