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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2020 17:53:22 GMT
Next you will be telling us we deserved to win because we had 70% possession. Shots and all that crap means nothing- it’s what you do with what you’ve got that counts and Coventry scored 2 goals and we didn’t. End of story. Take it you didn't read my posts?? I never said we deserved to win? I just said it wasn't dreadful and they were not miles better than us today, as some suggested. IMO a point was a fair result. Can't argue that Coventry won it. Was just saying it wasn't dreadful. Fair enough, although even then there are a fair few who are saying we hardly had a shot second half. There would be more to take from the game if we finished strongly imo, starting well for 30 minutes makes it seem like Coventry woke up and then we hardly had a kick after.
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Post by socrates on Feb 1, 2020 17:54:23 GMT
How did Barrett do when he came on? Fat and slow held on to it for too long and when he did pass it usually went to Coventry. He was better than olly Clarke though.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2020 17:54:34 GMT
This is the big problem in this team And if BG is such a good technical coach then surely he can see it. With respect, you would think if he had he might have brought in another midfielder instead of a defender we didn’t need. It’s almost conspicuous that central midfield was the one area of the team he didn’t strengthen.
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Post by Marshy on Feb 1, 2020 17:55:33 GMT
Not going to be too downbeat. We are a work in progress and that first half performance was the best w ehave seen under BG. We went missing 2nd half but more encouraging than previous. Also have these 3 new players to come in. We don't have to fear relegation yet so cna afford to have a play. Well GGMI, I can’t believe this but I agree with you lol! Spot on mate! I thought the 1st was very good and very encouraging, 2nd half not so great but as you say 3 or 4 to in come yet, I like the look of it TBH. UTG!
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Post by oldmarket65 on Feb 1, 2020 17:56:51 GMT
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Post by xenongas on Feb 1, 2020 17:57:25 GMT
No doubt in my mind Coventry have got away with one today. They've won the game in 10 mins with 2 chances and very little else. Extremely poor ref. The standard is often low but his performance was absolutely dire. I'd like to see the elbow on Mitchell-Lawson (I think?) again. I saw the cov player catching him flush with an aimed elbow. Him being quite short may be a factor but it's not an excuse. Better going forward today, especially Ginelly and Mitchell-Lawson's directness and willing to run off JCH who himself won a lot in the air today. I wasn't impressed by the steel of the midfield today. Very weak in the tackle throughout. A stronger foot in during the build up to the second goal would have snuffed that danger out before they could build their attack. We were very good value for at least a point today. The worry is a team with a wage budget lower than ours, even before this week, only had to play for 10 minutes to take home the 3 pts. How can we be good value for a point when we had the entire 2nd half to equalise but never really looked like scoring. Would you say we were good value for the loss? Or the win? I certainly wouldn't. I thought we had passages of pressure in the second half but couldn't fashion that golden chance we were crying out for. It falling to our centre back on the edge of the box twice when we were camping in their half was unlucky. If it were any of our attacking players there instead it wouldn't have been wasted in the same way. However, these are all what ifs like you'll find in any game. I think we were good value for a point because I wasn't scared of Coventry at any point, I thought we were doing the attacking (albeit from a losing position for half the game), and the game was very bitty which often leads to minimal chances and often a draw. I'm interested to think what you thought a fair result was today? Please try to evaluate what happened on the pitch and not the size of club's respective wallets.
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Post by daniel300380 on Feb 1, 2020 17:58:40 GMT
Take it you didn't read my posts?? I never said we deserved to win? I just said it wasn't dreadful and they were not miles better than us today, as some suggested. IMO a point was a fair result. Can't argue that Coventry won it. Was just saying it wasn't dreadful. Fair enough, although even then there are a fair few who are saying we hardly had a shot second half. There would be more to take from the game if we finished strongly imo, starting well for 30 minutes makes it seem like Coventry woke up and then we hardly had a kick after. Thought both their goals, were good team goals, but could have been avoided easily. Blackman didn't have a save of note to make in the 90 minutes. We still need to get better. We need to perform for 90 minutes. Hopefully the new player's can help with that. Bringing people like Reilly on, gives us nothing extra IMO. We seem to have tired in every game lately. Hopefully the weeks rest and a bigger squad, will make a difference with that.
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Post by Marshy on Feb 1, 2020 17:59:16 GMT
The worry is a team with a wage budget lower than ours, even before this week, only had to play for 10 minutes to take home the 3 pts. How can we be good value for a point when we had the entire 2nd half to equalise but never really looked like scoring. Coventry City are currently a very, very well run club. They have a successful model which we should follow. Really, a successful model we should follow? They’ve got no ground FFS! Birmingham R us, yes let’s follow them into oblivion 👍
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Post by Marshy on Feb 1, 2020 18:01:38 GMT
How did Barrett do when he came on? Fat and slow held on to it for too long and when he did pass it usually went to Coventry. He was better than olly Clarke though. 😁
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Post by oldmarket65 on Feb 1, 2020 18:05:17 GMT
What worries me ( And we can talk about tactics ) all night. Very average teams like Rochdale Accrinton Wimbledon can actually win matches.We seem both unable and having no confidence to know how. The game v Blackpool will be the 'test' both sides low on confidence and the whipping boys at present !.
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Feb 1, 2020 18:05:55 GMT
Coventry City are currently a very, very well run club. They have a successful model which we should follow. Really, a successful model we should follow? They’ve got no ground FFS! Birmingham R us, yes let’s follow them into oblivion 👍 Spat out my coffee reading that!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2020 18:06:54 GMT
Fair enough, although even then there are a fair few who are saying we hardly had a shot second half. There would be more to take from the game if we finished strongly imo, starting well for 30 minutes makes it seem like Coventry woke up and then we hardly had a kick after. Thought both their goals, were good team goals, but could have been avoided easily. Blackman didn't have a save of note to make in the 90 minutes. We still need to get better. We need to perform for 90 minutes. Hopefully the new player's can help with that. Bringing people like Reilly on, gives us nothing extra IMO. We seem to have tired in every game lately. Hopefully the weeks rest and a bigger squad, will make a difference with that. I think Coughlan proved that it doesn’t matter how you start, it.’s how you finish and that.’s the thing that hursts us the most imo since Coughlan left- we don. ’t seem to be fit enough to keep our levels up for 90 minutes so late goals for are a thing of the past. That being said I thought the defending for both goals was poor- there doesn’t seem to be much intensity in the side. Coventrys passing was nice but it wasn’t slick one touch passing it was much slower than that yet we allowed them so much time to operate in it was like they were playing against shadows.
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Post by Marshy on Feb 1, 2020 18:09:20 GMT
Really, a successful model we should follow? They’ve got no ground FFS! Birmingham R us, yes let’s follow them into oblivion 👍 Spat out my coffee reading that! It’s GGMI init, I do like him but I couldn’t eat a whole one.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Feb 1, 2020 18:14:44 GMT
Coventry City are currently a very, very well run club. They have a successful model which we should follow. Really, a successful model we should follow? They’ve got no ground FFS! Birmingham R us, yes let’s follow them into oblivion 👍 Not talking about the ground etc as already mentioned above.
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Post by xenongas on Feb 1, 2020 18:19:25 GMT
No doubt in my mind Coventry have got away with one today. They've won the game in 10 mins with 2 chances and very little else. Extremely poor ref. The standard is often low but his performance was absolutely dire. I'd like to see the elbow on Mitchell-Lawson (I think?) again. I saw the cov player catching him flush with an aimed elbow. Him being quite short may be a factor but it's not an excuse. Better going forward today, especially Ginelly and Mitchell-Lawson's directness and willing to run off JCH who himself won a lot in the air today. I wasn't impressed by the steel of the midfield today. Very weak in the tackle throughout. A stronger foot in during the build up to the second goal would have snuffed that danger out before they could build their attack. We were very good value for at least a point today. OC should have been sent off, with a hand to the face of one of theirs (O'Hare, maybe). I missed that one, when was it? There was a couple of standard OC handbags incidents but I didn't see anything card worthy. Maybe I've been desensitised.
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Post by Marshy on Feb 1, 2020 18:19:36 GMT
Really, a successful model we should follow? They’ve got no ground FFS! Birmingham R us, yes let’s follow them into oblivion 👍 Not talking about the ground etc as already mentioned above. Sorry dear, my sincere apologies. 👀
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Post by lastminutewinner on Feb 1, 2020 18:20:29 GMT
Teams don't have to play well to beat us and that is a big worry
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Post by Marshy on Feb 1, 2020 18:23:37 GMT
Teams don't have to play well to beat us and that is a big worry Yes but don’t worry, in 18 months time it will be like just watching Brazil! (Nuts)
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Post by daniel300380 on Feb 1, 2020 18:27:40 GMT
What worries me ( And we can talk about tactics ) all night. Very average teams like Rochdale Accrinton Wimbledon can actually win matches.We seem both unable and having no confidence to know how. The game v Blackpool will be the 'test' both sides low on confidence and the whipping boys at present !. We have Tranmere soon as well don't we?? Think we need to win atleast 1 of the next 2 games.
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Feb 1, 2020 18:30:02 GMT
No doubt in my mind Coventry have got away with one today. They've won the game in 10 mins with 2 chances and very little else. Extremely poor ref. The standard is often low but his performance was absolutely dire. I'd like to see the elbow on Mitchell-Lawson (I think?) again. I saw the cov player catching him flush with an aimed elbow. Him being quite short may be a factor but it's not an excuse. Better going forward today, especially Ginelly and Mitchell-Lawson's directness and willing to run off JCH who himself won a lot in the air today. I wasn't impressed by the steel of the midfield today. Very weak in the tackle throughout. A stronger foot in during the build up to the second goal would have snuffed that danger out before they could build their attack. We were very good value for at least a point today. The worry is a team with a wage budget lower than ours, even before this week, only had to play for 10 minutes to take home the 3 pts. How can we be good value for a point when we had the entire 2nd half to equalise but never really looked like scoring. Maybe due to the fact over 90 mins (you know the whole game) we've created as much as they have, how many saves did our keeper make ? IMO we were worth a draw today, Coventry are a very good side and have the one thing we really lack in a mobile & creative midfield. Incidentally how do you know what their wage budget is ?
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