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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2020 13:08:10 GMT
People will slate me for sure but I would love to know opinion on this ... The way we are heading as a club we will be 'dead' within Five years maybe sooner if the Al Qadis call in their debt.... With the Patriarch of the Family passed away I would not be surprised one jot if Hani pulls the plug some time soon. Even if he does sell … without a monster injection of Cash our beloved Club will fall further and further behind average L1 set ups and drift towards the bottom reaches of L2, maybe even worse. What would you prefer … this awful tedious pain we are going through now which could even get worse or a fresh start … None of the Current Cuckoos in the Gas nest .. a reborn club having to build from the ground upwards, starting out in the 10th tier of Football and who knows even reaching the same heights as AFC Wimbledon, Fleetwood, Burton maybe? Would the 'hard core' element still attend games, would the fun come back into watching our team or should we stick with what we have and just get on with life ? I don't know the answer to be honest …. my worst fear for my Club was us being wound up, now though if it happens I would damn well make sure we started again. Yes I would back it financially as well ( If no one tells the wife) WE are the Gas … Ladies and Gentleman … WE are Bristol Rovers …. Not the Al Qadis and their puppet Chairman, not the manager and players who 'lease' their place in our hearts and family … US ! It's truly sad to read of people who have followed the club for 50 plus years now disillusioned... You have every right to be. Remember though You are Bristol Rovers not the imposters who represent us day to day, week to week. So my friends.... Which path would you prefer to tread ?
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Post by baggins on Mar 1, 2020 13:16:47 GMT
People will slate me for sure but I would love to know opinion on this ... The way we are heading as a club we will be 'dead' within Five years maybe sooner if the Al Qadis call in their debt.... With the Patriarch of the Family passed away I would not be surprised one jot if Hani pulls the plug some time soon. Even if he does sell … without a monster injection of Cash our beloved Club will fall further and further behind average L1 set ups and drift towards the bottom reaches of L2, maybe even worse. What would you prefer … this awful tedious pain we are going through now which could even get worse or a fresh start … None of the Current Cuckoos in the Gas nest .. a reborn club having to build from the ground upwards, starting out in the 10th tier of Football and who knows even reaching the same heights as AFC Wimbledon, Fleetwood, Burton maybe? Would the 'hard core' element still attend games, would the fun come back into watching our team or should we stick with what we have and just get on with life ? I don't know the answer to be honest …. my worst fear for my Club was us being wound up, now though if it happens I would damn well make sure we started again. Yes I would back it financially as well ( If no one tells the wife) WE are the Gas … Ladies and Gentleman … WE are Bristol Rovers …. Not the Al Qadis and their puppet Chairman, not the manager and players who 'lease' their place in our hearts and family … US ! It's truly sad to read of people who have followed the club for 50 plus years now disillusioned... You have every right to be. Remember though You are Bristol Rovers not the imposters who represent us day to day, week to week. So my friends.... Which path would you prefer to tread ? Anything else you want to cheer us up with?
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Post by wsmjohn on Mar 1, 2020 13:23:19 GMT
I was thinking the same. At present we are heading non-league again.There used to be lots of people buying pasties and tea but I see that there are not many people participating in the food on offer.Over priced rubbish on sale just like the game of football yesterday. The chairman Martyn Staines is paid to do what! He has lost all credibility and none of us trust him. Who in their right mind gives a coach a two and half year contract to be an untested manager. I hope this club is not dying!
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Post by baggins on Mar 1, 2020 13:42:19 GMT
I was thinking the same. At present we are heading non-league again.There used to be lots of people buying pasties and tea but I see that there are not many people participating in the food on offer.Over priced rubbish on sale just like the game of football yesterday. The chairman Martyn Staines is paid to do what! He has lost all credibility and none of us trust him. Who in their right mind gives a coach a two and half year contract to be an untested manager. I hope this club is not dying! Heading non League? Don't think so.
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Post by Marshy on Mar 1, 2020 13:45:11 GMT
I was thinking the same. At present we are heading non-league again.There used to be lots of people buying pasties and tea but I see that there are not many people participating in the food on offer.Over priced rubbish on sale just like the game of football yesterday. The chairman Martyn Staines is paid to do what! He has lost all credibility and none of us trust him. Who in their right mind gives a coach a two and half year contract to be an untested manager. I hope this club is not dying! Heading non League? Don't think so. Never mind we’ve always got the fruit market to look forward too 😱👀
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Post by Icegas on Mar 1, 2020 13:58:14 GMT
I was thinking the same. At present we are heading non-league again.There used to be lots of people buying pasties and tea but I see that there are not many people participating in the food on offer.Over priced rubbish on sale just like the game of football yesterday. The chairman Martyn Staines is paid to do what! He has lost all credibility and none of us trust him. Who in their right mind gives a coach a two and half year contract to be an untested manager. I hope this club is not dying! Heading non League? Don't think so. Im pretty sure we are if we continute to be run as we are as a club.This time we will not return and it will be the end of our club. We are run far worse now than we were under Higgs and Co, as this lot has the money but no interest anymore, or dont have the ability to create a healthy future for us.Higgs tried but just didnt have the cash or brain to improve us.The only thing Higgs did right was give us DC. Did you think that we would start our 2015 season in non league after our last stay in L1 ended in 2011? Our current manager if kept in charge will have us in L2 before our season in L1 of 2020/21 has begun. Thats nail one in the coffin. We are a non league outfit in everyway apart from our Fanbase and nice pitch. If you and others cant see history repeating itself then....😟😱😰😨
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Post by toddy1953 on Mar 1, 2020 14:05:40 GMT
Those who would like to see us play at Twerton again, might get their wish. I’ve seen better games in National League South, that I saw yesterday.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Mar 1, 2020 14:11:07 GMT
I was thinking the same. At present we are heading non-league again.There used to be lots of people buying pasties and tea but I see that there are not many people participating in the food on offer.Over priced rubbish on sale just like the game of football yesterday. The chairman Martyn Staines is paid to do what! He has lost all credibility and none of us trust him. Who in their right mind gives a coach a two and half year contract to be an untested manager. I hope this club is not dying! I didn’t bother getting a half time drink because I couldn’t be bothered with the queues. It’s getting worse on the east terrace - the new queuing system isn’t understood and causes more grief than solutions.
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Post by Iliveinbidefordgas on Mar 1, 2020 14:17:38 GMT
Those who would like to see us play at Twerton again, might get their wish. I’ve seen better games in National League South, that I saw yesterday. I would love to go back to trumpton to be honest at least you knew what club you where supporting ie rag bag rovers ! Not this complete rubbish we have now ?
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Post by baggins on Mar 1, 2020 14:19:19 GMT
Heading non League? Don't think so. Im pretty sure we are if we continute to be run as we are as a club.This time we will not return and it will be the end of our club. We are run far worse now than we were under Higgs and Co, as this lot has the money but no interest anymore, or dont have the ability to create a healthy future for us.Higgs tried but just didnt have the cash or brain to improve us.The only thing Higgs did right was give us DC. Did you think that we would start our 2015 season in non league after our last stay in L1 ended in 2011? Our current manager if kept in charge will have us in L2 before our season in L1 of 2020/21 has begun. Thats nail one in the coffin. We are a non league outfit in everyway apart from our Fanbase and nice pitch. If you and others cant see history repeating itself then....😟😱😰😨 We're not a non League outfit. We are where we are, League 1, for a reason. And we'll be League 1 next season. It's not good at the moment but to start with the non league stuff is just stupid.
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Post by baggins on Mar 1, 2020 14:21:09 GMT
Those who would like to see us play at Twerton again, might get their wish. I’ve seen better games in National League South, that I saw yesterday. I would love to go back to trumpton to be honest at least you knew what club you where supporting ie rag bag rovers ! Not this complete rubbish we have now ? You'd love to go back to Twerton? I'm fairly sure you still can?
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Post by Iliveinbidefordgas on Mar 1, 2020 14:22:14 GMT
Im pretty sure we are if we continute to be run as we are as a club.This time we will not return and it will be the end of our club. We are run far worse now than we were under Higgs and Co, as this lot has the money but no interest anymore, or dont have the ability to create a healthy future for us.Higgs tried but just didnt have the cash or brain to improve us.The only thing Higgs did right was give us DC. Did you think that we would start our 2015 season in non league after our last stay in L1 ended in 2011? Our current manager if kept in charge will have us in L2 before our season in L1 of 2020/21 has begun. Thats nail one in the coffin. We are a non league outfit in everyway apart from our Fanbase and nice pitch. If you and others cant see history repeating itself then....😟😱😰😨 We're not a non League outfit. We are where we are, League 1, for a reason. And we'll be League 1 next season. It's not good at the moment but to start with the non league stuff is just stupid. I remember people saying similar before um Mansfield? We got non league ground with no money
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Post by baggins on Mar 1, 2020 14:26:11 GMT
We're not a non League outfit. We are where we are, League 1, for a reason. And we'll be League 1 next season. It's not good at the moment but to start with the non league stuff is just stupid. I remember people saying similar before um Mansfield? We got non league ground with no money 2 divisions away from non League.
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Post by warehamgas on Mar 1, 2020 17:56:03 GMT
People will slate me for sure but I would love to know opinion on this ... The way we are heading as a club we will be 'dead' within Five years maybe sooner if the Al Qadis call in their debt.... With the Patriarch of the Family passed away I would not be surprised one jot if Hani pulls the plug some time soon. Even if he does sell … without a monster injection of Cash our beloved Club will fall further and further behind average L1 set ups and drift towards the bottom reaches of L2, maybe even worse. What would you prefer … this awful tedious pain we are going through now which could even get worse or a fresh start … None of the Current Cuckoos in the Gas nest .. a reborn club having to build from the ground upwards, starting out in the 10th tier of Football and who knows even reaching the same heights as AFC Wimbledon, Fleetwood, Burton maybe? Would the 'hard core' element still attend games, would the fun come back into watching our team or should we stick with what we have and just get on with life ? I don't know the answer to be honest …. my worst fear for my Club was us being wound up, now though if it happens I would damn well make sure we started again. Yes I would back it financially as well ( If no one tells the wife) WE are the Gas … Ladies and Gentleman … WE are Bristol Rovers …. Not the Al Qadis and their puppet Chairman, not the manager and players who 'lease' their place in our hearts and family … US ! It's truly sad to read of people who have followed the club for 50 plus years now disillusioned... You have every right to be. Remember though You are Bristol Rovers not the imposters who represent us day to day, week to week. So my friends.... Which path would you prefer to tread ? Lionheart, I think you’re being negative but you’re right, the danger is there. The intentions of the Al Qadi family is crucial to what happens over the next few years. And I’m not sure that Wael really knows what he’s doing if they stay, perhaps he’s played too many games of Football Manager. And if they go, as you say, who’d want to buy us? I hope someone decent with the resources to do what’s needed but that’s a “hope” not a given. Football wise it’s poor atm but still very nearly the best it’s been this century. Thank goodness two out of our last three managers have known what they were doing within the resources they had. So talk about non league is premature but the story of Chesterfield should act as a cautionary tale. (League 1 to non league in two years) The jury is still out on our current manager. UTG!
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Post by axegas on Mar 1, 2020 19:01:04 GMT
So ignoring whether or not people think this may or may not happen, I wanted to look at this hypothetically.
Where we would play?
I’m guessing in the event of liquidation, the mem would be in the hands of creditors or developers, so we would have to find somewhere else to play. Apart from the obvious joke of Horfield Common or the Downs, I expect somewhere like Cossham street (Mangotsfield) Lodge Road (Yate) or even a move back to Twerton Park if nowhere could be found to accommodate us. The ground might be one of the biggest issues we faced as we would need to find someone willing to ground share, we would need to find somewhere capable of hosting large crowds weekly and where we could achieve permission from governing bodies to play in the National league and the EFL. To this end Twerton Park might be the most likely candidate but Cossham street might be viable with a few upgrades.
What would our crowds look like?
Hard to say, but I know we have a fan base that are loyal to the core and willing to follow a would be Phoenix club just like Wimbledon and Hereford fans have. Hereford had an attendance of 2,800 in their inaugural season, using this I would say we would get somewhere of the region of 3,500 to 4,000. Roughly half of what we get now but still more than a lot of league sides.
What league would we start in?
I believe the F.A. will only allow applications for clubs to join the 9th tier and below and I can’t see any examples of any team rejoining the football pyramid higher than this. Considering this, we would be starting in the Western League Premier division and working our way up from there. This is, for those that don’t know, one division lower than Mangotsfield and two below Yate Town.
Would we have a professional status?
Most previous examples of Phoenix clubs have started life semi professional and moved to becoming professional as they moved up the tiers. There hasn’t been a precedent for a club as large as Rovers dropping down to that level so we might make it pro but it would be difficult considering we would have no previous turnover, no prize money and I expect attracting pro players to come and play in the western league would be challenging. Remember we would have no previous staff or players as they have all left what was left at Rovers and found new Pro teams. We would have to hold trials and draw players from that to begin with.
Could we do it?
Absolutely I think we could if the situation ever became dire enough. We would have a loyal following, be one of the largest clubs in non league and be fan owned. National League and the National League South are difficult leagues to get out of as they only have 1 automatic spot but I think we’d do it and become a football league side again eventually. Being fan owned has its perks and as the saying goes “You’ll never get rid of the gas”.
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Post by casey12a on Mar 1, 2020 19:17:30 GMT
Blimey we’ve had some pointless threads on this forum before but this may have just won.
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Post by Okebournegas on Mar 1, 2020 19:25:38 GMT
Another happy day here on gaschat
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Post by Colyton Gas on Mar 1, 2020 19:28:43 GMT
Bury will be in the NW Counties league second division next season.Amazingly the Isle of Man are in too so not sure how that will work.
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Post by Gas-Ed on Mar 1, 2020 19:41:06 GMT
Bury will be in the NW Counties league second division next season.Amazingly the Isle of Man are in too so not sure how that will work. That would be some away day!
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Post by dinsdale on Mar 1, 2020 20:17:03 GMT
I want my club back by whatever means. More then that id love to see our fans grow a set of balls for once and challenge the pathetic shower running the gas
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