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Post by paulpirate on Mar 10, 2020 21:48:14 GMT
F off Barca garner is ours
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2020 23:55:58 GMT
What I don't get is why people have so readily accepted this "It's a rebuild project" line. It wasn't a rebuild project before BG came in so if it's a rebuild project now that's because BG did the demolition. In which case ... why are people so happy to let the guy who did the f**king up do the rebuilding? I think the theory is that with the clubs finances we cannot go on recruiting 28 year old established players on top league one money. So the plan is to bring in younger players on lower salary who will hopefully improve and give the team more energy as well as future transfer money. Not saying it will work i just believe that is the theory that garner has sold to wael.
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Post by madgas on Mar 11, 2020 8:09:48 GMT
I'd like to ask anyone still backing him, what evidence they can point to to back this up. Let's hear it, I'm genuinely interested. In truth it's more hunch based than evidence. But also I'm backing the idea of a long term project. DCs first half a season was pretty catastrophic. Over the river, Gary Johnson had a dreadful start. I concede it's not evidence that because others have turned it around that Ben will- but equally I think he can.
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 11, 2020 8:15:01 GMT
What I don't get is why people have so readily accepted this "It's a rebuild project" line. It wasn't a rebuild project before BG came in so if it's a rebuild project now that's because BG did the demolition. In which case ... why are people so happy to let the guy who did the f**king up do the rebuilding? I think the theory is that with the clubs finances we cannot go on recruiting 28 year old established players on top league one money. So the plan is to bring in younger players on lower salary who will hopefully improve and give the team more energy as well as future transfer money. Not saying it will work i just believe that is the theory that garner has sold to wael. TBH I'd sooner watch the likes of Hargreaves putting in a decent shift than Upson going though the motions, and Bennett not even doing that, anyway.
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Post by darkbluegas on Mar 11, 2020 8:21:34 GMT
What I don't get is why people have so readily accepted this "It's a rebuild project" line. It wasn't a rebuild project before BG came in so if it's a rebuild project now that's because BG did the demolition. In which case ... why are people so happy to let the guy who did the f**king up do the rebuilding? I think the theory is that with the clubs finances we cannot go on recruiting 28 year old established players on top league one money. So the plan is to bring in younger players on lower salary who will hopefully improve and give the team more energy as well as future transfer money. Not saying it will work i just believe that is the theory that garner has sold to wael. I think Wael may have sold it to Garner but they knew Garner was the type of man that would be receptive to the idea
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Post by Jomo on Mar 11, 2020 8:36:20 GMT
I'd like to ask anyone still backing him, what evidence they can point to to back this up. Let's hear it, I'm genuinely interested. In truth it's more hunch based than evidence. But also I'm backing the idea of a long term project. DCs first half a season was pretty catastrophic. Over the river, Gary Johnson had a dreadful start. I concede it's not evidence that because others have turned it around that Ben will- but equally I think he can. Fair play to you for sticking your neck out on this. I really hope you turn out to be right.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2020 8:41:34 GMT
I am still the same as before last night, and I think BG is the man for the job.
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Post by LJG on Mar 11, 2020 9:05:11 GMT
I am still the same as before last night, and I think BG is the man for the job. If anything last night confirmed my feelings about Garner are right. He returned to Coughlan's set up, with Coughlan's tactics and used mostly Coughlan's squad. Guess what? We got the sort of result we could have expected under Coughlan. Kevin Maher could have been doing that for the past 19 games instead of the toot we've been being served up.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2020 9:16:17 GMT
I am still the same as before last night, and I think BG is the man for the job. If anything last night confirmed my feelings about Garner are right. He returned to Coughlan's set up, with Coughlan's tactics and used mostly Coughlan's squad. Guess what? We got the sort of result we could have expected under Coughlan. Kevin Maher could have been doing that for the past 19 games instead of the toot we've been being served up. I didn’t go to Southend but were we not set up the same for both games? If so surely BG deserves some credit for last nights result every bit as much as he deserved stick for Saturday?
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Post by LJG on Mar 11, 2020 9:55:49 GMT
If anything last night confirmed my feelings about Garner are right. He returned to Coughlan's set up, with Coughlan's tactics and used mostly Coughlan's squad. Guess what? We got the sort of result we could have expected under Coughlan. Kevin Maher could have been doing that for the past 19 games instead of the toot we've been being served up. I didn’t go to Southend but were we not set up the same for both games? If so surely BG deserves some credit for last nights result every bit as much as he deserved stick for Saturday? No it wasn't the same set up at all. Squad was totally different. Like I said, last night he played GC's players with GC's tactics and got GC's result.
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Post by SleepyGas on Mar 11, 2020 10:20:58 GMT
I didn’t go to Southend but were we not set up the same for both games? If so surely BG deserves some credit for last nights result every bit as much as he deserved stick for Saturday? No it wasn't the same set up at all. Squad was totally different. Like I said, last night he played GC's players with GC's tactics and got GC's result. Correct me if I am wrong.. but a quick look at the starting XI and only 2 players were signed by GC. The rest either came through the academy or were signed by BG or DC... GK - Blackman - signed by BG CB - Kilgour - youth product CB - Craig - signed by DC CB - Harries - signed by BG RWB - Rodman - signed by DC LWB - Leahy - signed by GC CM - Sercombe - signed by DC CM - Clarke - youth product F - JML - signed by BG F - Hargreaves - youth product F - JCH - signed by GC I disagree that the tactics were the same, or indeed, that it was a GC result. GC lost every game he played against Sunderland managing us....
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Post by justin blue on Mar 11, 2020 10:23:01 GMT
While yesterday's win was a great result and a relief credit to BG and the team. However I think most of the credit has to be due to Johnson Clarke Harris, because to put it simply, he scores goals and goals win games.
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Post by SleepyGas on Mar 11, 2020 10:36:05 GMT
While yesterday's win was a great result and a relief credit to BG and the team. However I think most of the credit has to be due to Johnson Clarke Harris, because to put it simply, he scores goals and goals win games. Does that mean we also have to blame JCH for all the games he hasn't scored in..?
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Post by LJG on Mar 11, 2020 10:50:21 GMT
No it wasn't the same set up at all. Squad was totally different. Like I said, last night he played GC's players with GC's tactics and got GC's result. Correct me if I am wrong.. but a quick look at the starting XI and only 2 players were signed by GC. The rest either came through the academy or were signed by BG or DC... GK - Blackman - signed by BG CB - Kilgour - youth product CB - Craig - signed by DC CB - Harries - signed by BG RWB - Rodman - signed by DC LWB - Leahy - signed by GC CM - Sercombe - signed by DC CM - Clarke - youth product F - JML - signed by BG F - Hargreaves - youth product F - JCH - signed by GC I disagree that the tactics were the same, or indeed, that it was a GC result. GC lost every game he played against Sunderland managing us.... I didn't say players GC had signed. My point still stands.
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Post by SleepyGas on Mar 11, 2020 11:37:43 GMT
Correct me if I am wrong.. but a quick look at the starting XI and only 2 players were signed by GC. The rest either came through the academy or were signed by BG or DC... GK - Blackman - signed by BG CB - Kilgour - youth product CB - Craig - signed by DC CB - Harries - signed by BG RWB - Rodman - signed by DC LWB - Leahy - signed by GC CM - Sercombe - signed by DC CM - Clarke - youth product F - JML - signed by BG F - Hargreaves - youth product F - JCH - signed by GC I disagree that the tactics were the same, or indeed, that it was a GC result. GC lost every game he played against Sunderland managing us.... I didn't say players GC had signed. My point still stands. Your point: " Last night he played GC's players with GC's tactics and got GC's result." I struggle to see how you can say they were GC's players when he inherited most from DC? (so BG inherited them from GC - by that logic still makes them BG's players). I disagree that last night was GC's tactics too. We were pressing from the top and put together some intricate passing phases in possession; rather than just Coughlan's hoof and hope to JCH/Nichols. .. and as for it being GC's result - he never beat Sunderland in his tenure. To credit GC for last night's win is just petty nonsense.
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Post by rovers69 on Mar 11, 2020 11:44:12 GMT
No Banners for BG's removal No chants from supporters to get rid off him, instead only positives towards him. No sign of players not wanting to play for him - on last nights evidence total comitment to BG and Brstol Rovers
Hopefully negatives will now turn to positive and BG will continue to build for next season.
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Post by LJG on Mar 11, 2020 11:56:55 GMT
I didn't say players GC had signed. My point still stands. Your point: " Last night he played GC's players with GC's tactics and got GC's result." I struggle to see how you can say they were GC's players when he inherited most from DC? (so BG inherited them from GC - by that logic still makes them BG's players). I disagree that last night was GC's tactics too. We were pressing from the top and put together some intricate passing phases in possession; rather than just Coughlan's hoof and hope to JCH/Nichols. .. and as for it being GC's result - he never beat Sunderland in his tenure. To credit GC for last night's win is just petty nonsense. OK.
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Post by justin blue on Mar 11, 2020 12:02:08 GMT
While yesterday's win was a great result and a relief credit to BG and the team. However I think most of the credit has to be due to Johnson Clarke Harris, because to put it simply, he scores goals and goals win games. Does that mean we also have to blame JCH for all the games he hasn't scored in..? You don't have to, but quite a few on here have.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2020 12:09:52 GMT
I didn’t go to Southend but were we not set up the same for both games? If so surely BG deserves some credit for last nights result every bit as much as he deserved stick for Saturday? No it wasn't the same set up at all. Squad was totally different. Like I said, last night he played GC's players with GC's tactics and got GC's result. We never pressed opponents defences high up the pitch under coughlan so for me it was different.
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Post by Rod1883 on Mar 11, 2020 12:17:02 GMT
No Banners for BG's removal No chants from supporters to get rid off him, instead only positives towards him. No sign of players not wanting to play for him - on last nights evidence total comitment to BG and Brstol Rovers Hopefully negatives will now turn to positive and BG will continue to build for next season. Welcome back BG/BG's Mum/BG's other half - I guess you've been busy since Sunday preparing for last night's game? Please stick to the formation and tactics of last night on Saturday and we could be looking at another 3 points against an out of form Ipswich. UTG
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