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Post by Officer Barbrady on Apr 2, 2020 18:10:54 GMT
And this above is what a soyboy does when he cant win an arguement and is shown up to be in the wrong. He trys to grab the moral highground and plays the act of the "good guy" when he himself caused the problem to begin with...I saw that in you a month ago or so after your last tirade of abuse on that other thread and thats why I said it then regardless of where the term comes from. I think Im done here. Wasnt it you that derailed the thread with that rant about Chinese people? Anyway glad to see you're done here, you wont be missed by me at least. Cheerio.
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Post by Icegas on Apr 2, 2020 18:52:49 GMT
And this above is what a soyboy does when he cant win an arguement and is shown up to be in the wrong. He trys to grab the moral highground and plays the act of the "good guy" when he himself caused the problem to begin with...I saw that in you a month ago or so after your last tirade of abuse on that other thread and thats why I said it then regardless of where the term comes from. I think Im done here. Wasnt it you that derailed the thread with that rant about Chinese people? Anyway glad to see you're done here, you wont be missed by me at least. Cheerio. Im sorry but I never derailed anything.I voiced an opinion about the current situation around the world and it being chinas fault.Which it 1000% is.. I was then attacked with bile for my views. Am I wrong in this? Have they acted sensibly and respectfully to the rest of the world by there actions when this began to happened over there? Did they tell the truth? Or did they not they try not to crover up the problem from the world heath organization for X amount of time to save face and by doing so they created the pandemic we have today? That country has ALOT to answer once this is over.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2020 19:23:09 GMT
Wasnt it you that derailed the thread with that rant about Chinese people? Anyway glad to see you're done here, you wont be missed by me at least. Cheerio. Im sorry but I never derailed anything.I voiced an opinion about the current situation around the world and it being chinas fault.Which it 1000% is.. I was then attacked with bile for my views. Am I wrong in this? Have they acted sensibly and respectfully to the rest of the world by there actions when this began to happened over there? Did they tell the truth? Or did they not they try not to crover up the problem from the world heath organization for X amount of time to save face and by doing so they created the pandemic we have today? That country has ALOT to answer once this is over. Ice gas. You are perfectly entitled to your views but I have to ask. On what basis do you come to your opinions about China? Have you been there? And I think you might concede, it's not necessary to make your points with such derogatory and inflammatory language.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2020 19:35:19 GMT
Phew I was expecting to be shouted at for being an ultra left wing, Corbyn loving Stalinist by oldgas. 😱😱😱🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Don't speak too soon. Youre an ultra left wing, Corbyn-loving Stalinist! 🤣🤣🤣 Of course.
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Post by Icegas on Apr 2, 2020 23:05:27 GMT
Im sorry but I never derailed anything.I voiced an opinion about the current situation around the world and it being chinas fault.Which it 1000% is.. I was then attacked with bile for my views. Am I wrong in this? Have they acted sensibly and respectfully to the rest of the world by there actions when this began to happened over there? Did they tell the truth? Or did they not they try not to crover up the problem from the world heath organization for X amount of time to save face and by doing so they created the pandemic we have today? That country has ALOT to answer once this is over. Ice gas. You are perfectly entitled to your views but I have to ask. On what basis do you come to your opinions about China? Have you been there? And I think you might concede, it's not necessary to make your points with such derogatory and inflammatory language. With respect Oldie,may I ask you what derigatory and imflammatory language have I used? As I cant remember using any.. As for your question, no I have not...However, my ex girlfriend lived there for a period and saw some disgusting acts while over there. Its well known that the way the corrupt nature of the country and the use of these wet farms are the cause of this worldwide pandemic.
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Post by oldgas on Apr 3, 2020 9:10:32 GMT
Im sorry but I never derailed anything.I voiced an opinion about the current situation around the world and it being chinas fault.Which it 1000% is.. I was then attacked with bile for my views. Am I wrong in this? Have they acted sensibly and respectfully to the rest of the world by there actions when this began to happened over there? Did they tell the truth? Or did they not they try not to crover up the problem from the world heath organization for X amount of time to save face and by doing so they created the pandemic we have today? That country has ALOT to answer once this is over. Ice gas. You are perfectly entitled to your views but I have to ask. On what basis do you come to your opinions about China? Have you been there? And I think you might concede, it's not necessary to make your points with such derogatory and inflammatory language. Oh come on! How can you start to defend a regime that virtually imprisons 1.5 billion people? A regime that has sent several million Muslims to 'Re-education' camps? A regime that runs people over with tanks in the main square of its capital city? A regime hat allows the barbaric and unhygienic custom of wet food markets to continue? A regime that was starting to brutally repress demonstrations in Hong Kong until Covid 19 did the work for them? A regime that annexed Tibet and is in the process of repressing Tibetan freedom and culture? A regime that regularly commits intellectual property theft whenever it sees a patent tha prevents it from D loping something unless it pays for the priveledge? I could go on but hopefully you get the picture. I know we all not a nice Chines take-away on a Friday evening, but come on!
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Post by oldgas on Apr 3, 2020 9:20:38 GMT
The whole world should put pressure on the chinese for this and they should pay the bills that each country has to pay for the world's economy crashing as it has and will. They f**ked this thing up and Trumps right its the Chinese flu. The lady gardens either covered up when the outbreak began,they live like animals with the wet farms where its said to have started from. To be honest I dont think anyone can rule out the chance that this was not released on purpose by them as a bio weapon to slow down the west's economy due to how well it was doing. After this ends there are going to be alot of answers that those fuckers need to step up and answer one way or another. You really are a thoughtless, thick, nasty little sh**. Why don't you f**k off back to your far right thoughtless thick nasty little sh** forums where you can post your thoughtless thick nasty little thick posts to your thoughtless thick and nasty heart's content, without bothering people with more than three brain cells? It may be a good time to highlight just why this thread took the path it did, and that was this outrageous attack by a moderator on a post left by Icegas. Faced with criticism about the content and tone of his post Senor Fargas did what he always does and started trawling through old posts in an effort to dig dirt on anyone who disagrees with him in an attempt to deflect the argument away from what he wrote. Hence, over the course of the thread he posts things about bitches and soy boys as a valid reason for his original reply, which is re-posted to ensure that very body can see hat he said with absolute clarity. He he is too arrogant to reflect on anything and refuses to apologise. You have to feel sorry for him really, but it does call into question his suitability to be a moderator. Just read again what he wrote. Could anyone really defend that diatribe of bile-filled hatred?
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Post by Icegas on Apr 3, 2020 12:00:43 GMT
You really are a thoughtless, thick, nasty little sh**. Why don't you f**k off back to your far right thoughtless thick nasty little sh** forums where you can post your thoughtless thick nasty little thick posts to your thoughtless thick and nasty heart's content, without bothering people with more than three brain cells? It may be a good time to highlight just why this thread took the path it did, and that was this outrageous attack by a moderator on a post left by Icegas. Faced with criticism about the content and tone of his post Senor Fargas did what he always does and started trawling through old posts in an effort to dig dirt on anyone who disagrees with him in an attempt to deflect the argument away from what he wrote. Hence, over the course of the thread he posts things about bitches and soy boys as a valid reason for his original reply, which is re-posted to ensure that very body can see hat he said with absolute clarity. He he is too arrogant to reflect on anything and refuses to apologise. You have to feel sorry for him really, but it does call into question his suitability to be a moderator. Just read again what he wrote. Could anyone really defend that diatribe of bile-filled hatred? Thats a very good point. See I never get involved in posting like I have over these past few days towards another person, particularly in a negative way like I have here.But his actions on here brought out my need to defend myself and prove what a bully he is, and that he was the one i the started all of this. His justification for this attack on me was was first for me calling Greta Thunberg a "stupid bitch" in a past thread 😕.... and then my above post that you have just highlighted on this thread. They guy then pigeon holes me as being "far right" ( which is a big insult to me as I hate the far right as much has the hard left).He attacks my charactor, and throws needless and childish vile insults ny way and thinks he can just get away with it. He then rambles on in riddles and trys to justify he attacks. He is never wrong. And Ive seen this act from him many a time towards others on this forum. ................... I still dont understand what I said that was so bad about my highlighted post above anyway? : Was it because I said that Trump was right when he called it the Chinese Flu? Well C19 started there and they hid the size of the problem and created the worldwide problem today due to there selfish in actions.So nothing wrong there... : Was it because I suggested that in many places in China they live like animals and do stuff that we in the west dont? Anyone with any knowledge of China knows that this is the case and how easy viruses and infections are spread over there due to its size. The only thing that I said that I can understand that anyone could put into question was my remark about it being released as a Bio weapon by China.And even then, I said we cant rule it out that it was.I didnt say I think it was, but rather that it couldnt be ruled out.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2020 12:25:15 GMT
Ice gas. You are perfectly entitled to your views but I have to ask. On what basis do you come to your opinions about China? Have you been there? And I think you might concede, it's not necessary to make your points with such derogatory and inflammatory language. Oh come on! How can you start to defend a regime that virtually imprisons 1.5 billion people? A regime that has sent several million Muslims to 'Re-education' camps? A regime that runs people over with tanks in the main square of its capital city? A regime hat allows the barbaric and unhygienic custom of wet food markets to continue? A regime that was starting to brutally repress demonstrations in Hong Kong until Covid 19 did the work for them? A regime that annexed Tibet and is in the process of repressing Tibetan freedom and culture? A regime that regularly commits intellectual property theft whenever it sees a patent tha prevents it from D loping something unless it pays for the priveledge? I could go on but hopefully you get the picture. I know we all not a nice Chines take-away on a Friday evening, but come on! Where am I justifying the regime in China? Not by suggesting more temperate language can be used in the critique of the same. So you are extrapolating based upon a false premise.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2020 12:33:09 GMT
Ice gas. You are perfectly entitled to your views but I have to ask. On what basis do you come to your opinions about China? Have you been there? And I think you might concede, it's not necessary to make your points with such derogatory and inflammatory language. With respect Oldie,may I ask you what derigatory and imflammatory language have I used? As I cant remember using any.. As for your question, no I have not...However, my ex girlfriend lived there for a period and saw some disgusting acts while over there. Its well known that the way the corrupt nature of the country and the use of these wet farms are the cause of this worldwide pandemic. Here Icegas "The lady gardens either covered up when the outbreak began,they live like animals with the wet farms where its said to have started from." The choice of words, comparing people, who are dying in their thousands, to animals is ill considered at best. You may feel that way, but can I suggest that without ever spending time in a country one can never obtain a true impression of it's people.
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Post by oldgas on Apr 3, 2020 14:25:17 GMT
With respect Oldie,may I ask you what derigatory and imflammatory language have I used? As I cant remember using any.. As for your question, no I have not...However, my ex girlfriend lived there for a period and saw some disgusting acts while over there. Its well known that the way the corrupt nature of the country and the use of these wet farms are the cause of this worldwide pandemic. Here Icegas "The lady gardens either covered up when the outbreak began,they live like animals with the wet farms where its said to have started from." The choice of words, comparing people, who are dying in their thousands, to animals is ill considered at best. You may feel that way, but can I suggest that without ever spending time in a country one can never obtain a true impression of it's people. What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. As you seem exercised by Ice's choice of words when describing China, can I ask you to again read through Huggy Bears response to that post and critique it as being reasonable and fair. If you can, does that mean that Senor Fargas is beyond reproach? I would be interested in your reply, because my initial response to the street corner snitch was a mild enquiry as to the reason for his vitriolic post. Thank you in anticipation.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2020 16:24:13 GMT
Here Icegas "The lady gardens either covered up when the outbreak began,they live like animals with the wet farms where its said to have started from." The choice of words, comparing people, who are dying in their thousands, to animals is ill considered at best. You may feel that way, but can I suggest that without ever spending time in a country one can never obtain a true impression of it's people. What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. As you seem exercised by Ice's choice of words when describing China, can I ask you to again read through Huggy Bears response to that post and critique it as being reasonable and fair. If you can, does that mean that Senor Fargas is beyond reproach? I would be interested in your reply, because my initial response to the street corner snitch was a mild enquiry as to the reason for his vitriolic post. Thank you in anticipation. Personally I would have not responded that way to Icegas, I don't think it is productive. I was aware of Icegas's description of Greta Thunberg which I also thought was very poor and unbecoming of an adult. That appeared to wind up AF and he carried that anger to this thread. Again I don't think that is productive. But ultimately there is only one person here describing another race as living like to animals, and calling a teenage girl a "stupid bitch" (I think that phrase is accurate). To my mind Icegas, who is absolutely entitled to his views ( and personally I am with Voltaire in supporting his right to express them) would make a better case for his viewpoints if he tempered his language.
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Post by Icegas on Apr 3, 2020 17:45:34 GMT
What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. As you seem exercised by Ice's choice of words when describing China, can I ask you to again read through Huggy Bears response to that post and critique it as being reasonable and fair. If you can, does that mean that Senor Fargas is beyond reproach? I would be interested in your reply, because my initial response to the street corner snitch was a mild enquiry as to the reason for his vitriolic post. Thank you in anticipation. Personally I would have not responded that way to Icegas, I don't think it is productive. I was aware of Icegas's description of Greta Thunberg which I also thought was very poor and unbecoming of an adult. That appeared to wind up AF and he carried that anger to this thread. Again I don't think that is productive. But ultimately there is only one person here describing another race as living like to animals, and calling a teenage girl a "stupid bitch" (I think that phrase is accurate). To my mind Icegas, who is absolutely entitled to his views ( and personally I am with Voltaire in supporting his right to express them) would make a better case for his viewpoints if he tempered his language. But why should I have to tiptoe around my choice of words due to the fear that some angry man might react to them in a hostile way for not agreeing with them? And that goes for any other person on here for that matter. I would never call a person a "stupid bitch" for no reason.And regardless if you agree with it our not Greta Thunberg has put herself in a position of some power and therefore is fair game for criticism if anyone disagrees with her on a platform like this humble forum even if you dont like the language that I used to express my views. Again,one last time.I would not go up to her in person and call her a "stupid bitch" as on a personal level I dont know her, so why would I..? But given the level she has got to in her activism career, then regarless of her age,sex than I dont think I crossed a line by using my just north of mild use of language to describe her on that thread. If you cant do that on a place like this then political correctness is worse than I thought it was today.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2020 18:40:41 GMT
Personally I would have not responded that way to Icegas, I don't think it is productive. I was aware of Icegas's description of Greta Thunberg which I also thought was very poor and unbecoming of an adult. That appeared to wind up AF and he carried that anger to this thread. Again I don't think that is productive. But ultimately there is only one person here describing another race as living like to animals, and calling a teenage girl a "stupid bitch" (I think that phrase is accurate). To my mind Icegas, who is absolutely entitled to his views ( and personally I am with Voltaire in supporting his right to express them) would make a better case for his viewpoints if he tempered his language. But why should I have to tiptoe around my choice of words due to the fear that some angry man might react to them in a hostile way for not agreeing with them? And that goes for any other person on here for that matter. I would never call a person a "stupid bitch" for no reason.And regardless if you agree with it our not Greta Thunberg has put herself in a position of some power and therefore is fair game for criticism if anyone disagrees with her on a platform like this humble forum even if you dont like the language that I used to express my views. Again,one last time.I would not go up to her in person and call her a "stupid bitch" as on a personal level I dont know her, so why would I..? But given the level she has got to in her activism career, then regarless of her age,sex than I dont think I crossed a line by using my just north of mild use of language to describe her on that thread. If you cant do that on a place like this then political correctness is worse than I thought it was today. Ultimately Icegas it's about making your point and persuading others of its validity. If you don't think that's right then why bother to post on a forum where debate takes place? Anyway, each to their own, I just don't think you do yourself justice.
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Post by Icegas on Apr 3, 2020 20:09:13 GMT
But why should I have to tiptoe around my choice of words due to the fear that some angry man might react to them in a hostile way for not agreeing with them? And that goes for any other person on here for that matter. I would never call a person a "stupid bitch" for no reason.And regardless if you agree with it our not Greta Thunberg has put herself in a position of some power and therefore is fair game for criticism if anyone disagrees with her on a platform like this humble forum even if you dont like the language that I used to express my views. Again,one last time.I would not go up to her in person and call her a "stupid bitch" as on a personal level I dont know her, so why would I..? But given the level she has got to in her activism career, then regarless of her age,sex than I dont think I crossed a line by using my just north of mild use of language to describe her on that thread. If you cant do that on a place like this then political correctness is worse than I thought it was today. Ultimately Icegas it's about making your point and persuading others of its validity. If you don't think that's right then why bother to post on a forum where debate takes place? Anyway, each to their own, I just don't think you do yourself justice. Ok I can respect you views, I dont agree with them but they are yours to hold.And this is how a conversation or debate should be like. See if Fargas hadn't just went on a tirade of abuse and insults on both threads as well as others with people over the years then this page wouldnt had ended up the way it did. Once again,we maybe disagree but thanks for the normal interaction here.
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Post by oldgas on Apr 4, 2020 9:44:04 GMT
What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. As you seem exercised by Ice's choice of words when describing China, can I ask you to again read through Huggy Bears response to that post and critique it as being reasonable and fair. If you can, does that mean that Senor Fargas is beyond reproach? I would be interested in your reply, because my initial response to the street corner snitch was a mild enquiry as to the reason for his vitriolic post. Thank you in anticipation. Personally I would have not responded that way to Icegas, I don't think it is productive. I was aware of Icegas's description of Greta Thunberg which I also thought was very poor and unbecoming of an adult. That appeared to wind up AF and he carried that anger to this thread. Again I don't think that is productive. But ultimately there is only one person here describing another race as living like to animals, and calling a teenage girl a "stupid bitch" (I think that phrase is accurate). To my mind Icegas, who is absolutely entitled to his views ( and personally I am with Voltaire in supporting his right to express them) would make a better case for his viewpoints if he tempered his language. A politicians answer, well done. So you wouldn't have responded as Fargas did, fine. But that wasn't the question was it? I asked if you thought his response was reasonable and fair. You appear to try and justify that by referring to a previous and unrelated post where Ice apparenty called the ridiculous Thunberg girl a SB, a sentiment with which you appear to agree. That is apparently justification for Fargas' rant. You seem to have glossed over his description of Ice as being a nasty little sh** from as yet undisclosed and unidentified right wing forums. It appears that Huggy Bear has made himself untouchable by attacking anyone who disagrees with him, to the stage where people who don't like what he says, or how he says it, don't bother to respond. That's a shame. I think this thread, for me in any case has run its course, and I doubt I will contribute any further. It's effectively been killed by Fargas moving it to GC, a move I rather suspect was prompted by the other mods. Rest assured I see future examples of his overbearing bullying and ranting at other posters I will call him out.
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Post by William Wilson on Apr 4, 2020 10:30:13 GMT
The whole world should put pressure on the chinese for this and they should pay the bills that each country has to pay for the world's economy crashing as it has and will. They f**ked this thing up and Trumps right its the Chinese flu. The lady gardens either covered up when the outbreak began,they live like animals with the wet farms where its said to have started from. To be honest I dont think anyone can rule out the chance that this was not released on purpose by them as a bio weapon to slow down the west's economy due to how well it was doing. After this ends there are going to be alot of answers that those fuckers need to step up and answer one way or another. You really are a thoughtless, thick, nasty little sh**. Why don't you f**k off back to your far right thoughtless thick nasty little sh** forums where you can post your thoughtless thick nasty little thick posts to your thoughtless thick and nasty heart's content, without bothering people with more than three brain cells? An eloquent riposte to Icegas’s Sinophobia.
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Post by Icegas on Apr 4, 2020 12:28:05 GMT
You really are a thoughtless, thick, nasty little sh**. Why don't you f**k off back to your far right thoughtless thick nasty little sh** forums where you can post your thoughtless thick nasty little thick posts to your thoughtless thick and nasty heart's content, without bothering people with more than three brain cells? An eloquent riposte to Icegas’s Sinophopbia. My Sinophobia? Lord...😴😴😴
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Post by stuart1974 on Apr 4, 2020 12:35:41 GMT
You really are a thoughtless, thick, nasty little sh**. Why don't you f**k off back to your far right thoughtless thick nasty little sh** forums where you can post your thoughtless thick nasty little thick posts to your thoughtless thick and nasty heart's content, without bothering people with more than three brain cells? An eloquent riposte to Icegas’s Sinophopbia. My mum used to have an irrational fear of sinuses too. Something to do with an allergy to grass pollen.
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Post by William Wilson on Apr 4, 2020 14:26:18 GMT
An eloquent riposte to Icegas’s Sinophopbia. My mum used to have an irrational fear of sinuses too. Something to do with an allergy to grass pollen. I have no wish to debate with someone so cleerly ignorunt.
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