George Floyd - America so f**ked up

Main objectives, or just the objectives you want to focus on to suit your argument? 

People who also speak out against it also get massive support as well, you are aware? Or do you only focus on the things you disagree with? From the main objectives point you tried to make, I think I know the answer. If you actually bothered to look instead of having a default attack position, you'd see that BLM UK actually supported Zaha, but that wouldn't suit the point you're trying to make, would it?

As for black people thinking for themselves, I'm not really sure what you're going on about.

I don't support the entirety of the BLM movement, but I support it's core principle that I do support in equality and ending racism. I also accept that you don't want to support BLM and will ridicule it for anything it does. If you want to consider that as "seeing write through it" then be my guest, but lose the patronising tone with me, thanks.

Insightful post.

Couldn't really answer a single point, go into your default attack mode. 

I've answered every single one of them, months ago on this very thread.

As opposed to your default defence mode?

I've been very clear on everything on this thread from false victimhood, the myth of Systemic racism, the Oxymorons within organisations likr BLM, the false agendas, the hypocrisy and just the sheer nonsense of it all.

Yes we can all agree that unfortunately racism exists, I've been on the end of it myself. There will always be racists from all colours and creeds, from all parts of the globe, there's prejudices and certain people from certain races, creeds, faiths and ideologies that dislike eachother.

That doesn't mean that I have to agree with the majority of nonsense that BLM, UKBLM or BLM UK spout which people lap up, because they want to be seen as 'Righteous' and it makes them feel better about themselves.

You can be Anti-Racist, Black, Asian or whatever and still believe BLM in all it's guises is a complete sham.

Its not mutually exclusive.

Social engineering in the US. You never answered why black people in America are killing each other at frightening rates.

If you are struggling to see a difference between the USA situation and violence in Africa then perhaps the situation is over your head.

That's your own personal politics rather than the problem at hand. Don't see the so called free market libertarians helping the racial issue, quite the opposite.

They’re  your opinions, not facts. 

Well there’s no point debating with someone with a closed mind . Just because you believe something doesn’t make it a fact, although I’m sure you know this really. 

Remember when people were claiming "everyone thinks what the officer did was wrong," and "no one is defending it."

Look at the responses and comments to these:




By the way, looking increasingly likely Chauvin is going to get an extremely small sentence.

But yes, there is absolutely no issue of systemic racism whatsoever.

When people try and do whataboutism I ask a simple question. Name an American black man who murdered a white man because he was white and got away with it.

There are none. But the list of white men who murder black men due to their skin colour and get away with it grows longer by the day.

This is people's issue. Hundreds of thousands, if not millions, will try and justify a man's death who had a knee on his neck for 8 minutes, which almost all police officers have condemned, where all autopsies on the matter concluded it was a homicide.

I'm just bewildered hundreds of thousands of people are defending Chauvin's actions. 

Just seen this Gastafari; apologies for the delay.

Also you missed a key word in my phrasing Gastafari, because of their race. I think any rational person would probably conclude that Mr. Simpson did not act in the way that he did because of contempt for the colour of his ex-wife and Ron Goldman. Although I'm not sure OJ did actually do it in all honesty, I've always been convinced his son Jason was responsible. 

If you're referring to the evidence Floyd dying due to Chauvin's actions; I would probably refer to both autopsies concluding George Floyd died to "homicide caused by asphyxia due to neck and back compression that led to a lack of blood flow to the brain"

And because he was black? Intent is obviously almost impossible to prove, but I'd probably refer you to Chauvin's history of excessive force towards people who were ethnic minorities. I think most people could conclude that, but it's more highlighting a straw that broke the camel's back kind of issue. There is huge well-documented and researched biases and disparities in terms of sentencing, stops, searches and arrests, biases from judges, juries and prosecutors, death penalty sentencing and implicit bias. I can refer you to any of those at your request. I think a rational person could conclude these disparities were due to racist beliefs, whether conscious or unconscious.