George Floyd - America so f**ked up

Insulted?

Who have I insulted?

The only person using insulting language was Yatton.

I thought you were Mr Editor, haven't edited that though, have you?

I haven't lied at all. 

Yes, you've listed some factors - but deny institutional racism exists in the UK. You can't back that up, you can only give statistics about other areas. As I said yesterday, proving the colour green exists, doesn't prove that the colour red doesn't exist. 

I named black women dying as one factor, it was the only point you seemed to pick on as it's the only point you could argue against. Even then, your entire statement about Asian women was incorrect. You've stated your opinion multiple times and then refer to anyone who doesn't agree with it as ignoring the facts. That's a fact.

On the last point, I didn't get the wrong end at all. You made a direct comparison of a woman taking maternity to being on holiday. Then you made a direct comparison of a peaceful protest Vs the riots and said "it's happened before". There is only one end of the stick to get there. 

You say I'm arguing for the sake of it, but I am the person who has conceded any point and has the open mind to accepting other possibilities. The same cannot be said for yourself. 

Diddums , I said you were being a bit of a knob ( you were ). My god how precious are you ? Ok , I apologise.
You though crack on with calling me a liar and saying how what ever I post is typical of someone of my ilk .... by the way what exactly do you mean by that ? 

Yet again. So much untruths in what you've written.

Yet again, All I've said is that I dont believe that 'Institutional racism' is a major factor, and that it being a major factor is a myth. You seem to be failing to get your head around that.

The Black Women/Child Birth point wasn't the only one I picked up on at all. I actually replied to a few of them. My statement was very much true in regards to 'Asian' Women. I said more White Women die during Child birth than Women from Chinese and other Oriental backgrounds which is true. No real surprise that those figures lumped other oriental backgrounds into the Asian category. I.e people of Filipino, Thai, Japanese backgrounds. Yet seperated Chinese. Wonder why? Because it would show a completely different story, wouldn't it? So no it wasn't incorrect at all.

You once again decided to get the wrong end of the stick and argue about it.

You know full well what I meant by that.

You're nothing but an internet troll, a standard WUM.

So you admit institutional racism exists in the UK? Yes or no.

So whos being contradicting now? 

"So you admit institutional racism exists in the UK? Yes or no. In 2021, no I don't".
"All I've said is that I dont believe that 'Institutional racism' is a major factor"
"But "Systemic" or "Institutional" racism in the UK, just like the US, is a modern day, myth."

One minute it's a myth, then it's not a major factor, now it doesn't exist at all. 

There are unfortunately examples and reports of institutional racism in the NHS. I do agree that there is a fine line between individual cases of racism and institutional, but as Cambridge dictionary defines, "policies, rules, practices, etc. that are a usual part of the way an organization works, and that result in and support a continued unfair advantage to some people and unfair or harmful treatment of others based on race:"

In other words, if racist decisions keep happening at an organisation then it becomes institutional under the grounds of practices becoming usual. But I'll admit this can be blurry.

So
We all agree that there are societal factors influencing the under performance of afro carribbean and white working class kids.
Given that these two groups are equally as bad, are we saying that single parent families in the white working class families are as in afro carribbean families?

If so there is a high probability that there are shared causal factors. What are they?
Is it relative poverty?
The Ghettoisation of poverty?
Lack of investment educational facilities and provision?
Poor health outcomes?
The lack of mobility and the subsequent Ghettoisation of unemployment?

What do YOU think on these questions Gastafari?
Given your perspective.

I am trying to identify causal factors.
Let me try again.
You specifically brought up some societal characteristics which you assigned to our Afro Carribbean friends.
Given the similarity of educational outcomes, woukd you assign the same characteristics to white working class famalies?